Comments on: Jan Moir On Stephen Gately’s Death – Agree Or Disagree?

By: Darling

Darling — Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:57:19 +0000

1. It’s a tragedy
2. Coroners get things wrong all the time
3. Young, healthy people do not usually just die unless they are doing something very physical like playing a sport.
4. Jan has a right to say what she wants
5. Just looking at the “crime scene” the people involved are hiding details
6. People share what they want and hide what they want. In 50 years maybe we will learn the truth, on someone’s deathbed when they are about to face God.

By: marie mc graith

marie mc graith — Mon, 17 May 2010 10:13:55 +0000

i totally disagree with her cpmments about steven gately.

By: Rosie

Rosie — Sun, 09 May 2010 13:09:18 +0000

Shehen, why do you trawl the net looking for arguments?? Everyone hates you, no-one listens to you. And upset my cousin again and I’ll batter you.

By: Jessica Belcher

Jessica Belcher — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:07:12 +0000

I think death is just a stairway to another world, filled by the desires craved by your mind most. Leave the lad alone janny, leave the lad alone! !! !

By: Catherine H

Catherine H — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:35:49 +0000

I don’t think Jan Moir’s comments were homophobic, or that she is homophobic. I think she could have shown a little more sensativity, but what she says, yes, it’s right, and we do have a free press.
I am gay, and I stay single and celibate. I know that the gay lifestyle is no where near as balanced and loving as what a straight person would enjoy, that gay relationships are not equal to straight relationships. The gay lobby keep trying to convince us all that they are, and the truth is they are not. Relationships between women tend to last longer than between a man and a woman, but tend to be emotionally dependant and very emotionally messy, which is why female partners often start dressing alike and they identify as one person. “We are doing this, we like this, we don’t like that” etc. Male relationships tend to be short-lived, and not many make it into old age without multiple other sexual partners being involved. So no, gay relationships are not equivalent and the same as straight relationships, and it’s time the gay lobby and straight benevolent types stopped trying to lie to us all and told the truth to both straight and gay people. Ms Moir could have been more sensative after yet another recent death, but like someone has said above, she is only saying what the rest of us are thinking, and yes, we live in a free country with a free press. If you want to see real homophobia etc, there’s plenty of gay people such as me who can tell you about daily incidents of violence and intimidation.

By: Joanne Copeland

Joanne Copeland — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:52:06 +0000

I think if the coroners verdict was that of natural causes that is it end of story.
Any one saying anything against it need to be a coroner too or have evidence to the contrary. I think it is a tradgedy and the fact he was gay has noting to do with it. Have respect for a life cut so short and stop looking into something that is not there. Look at Michael Jackson that is still rumbling on the coroners word is gospel in my book. Let the souls of the deceased rest in peace. God bless Stephen and his family.

By: colin nimms

colin nimms — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:12:00 +0000

exit only no entry

By: halimah

halimah — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:57:58 +0000

Being gay didnt kill him so that should’nt be mentioned in any column.
Speculation about drugs etc only adds to the pain of the people hes left behind. We shouldnt comment on anything, let him be…

By: Fran

Fran — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:03:48 +0000

Inevitably when you throw something like this open to comment then some people’s comments will horrify us. Is Janisright suggesting that the gay sex act killed Stephen?
There have been some excellent comments above – including Ruth’s original comments, which some up how most of us feel about this very well.

However, at the moment, we are still allowed free speech in this country, although, frankly, those at the Daily Mail might well want this limited to white, middle-class, straight people.
This country now is used to seeing people’s sex lives splashed across the front of the paper, but a line has been crossed here, hence the unheard-of reaction and number of complaints.
His partner, friends and family should be allowed to grieve. Of course his mother wants to believe it’s a congenital problem that could not have been avoided, god help her. We can – and will, speculate, because that’s the modern society we live in that believes it is entitled to share and discuss every nature of celebrities’ lives.
Some people, like Jordan, seem to thrive on it, until it inevitably backfires. However, Stephen seemed like quite a private guy – and a lovely one, and it is cruel and disrespectful to discuss it in this way.
The Sun publishing an interview with the “third” has only increased speculation for vultures like Jan Moir to pick over. In the case of Moir, it is the nastiness which really shocks – the suggestion he had no talent (not true); the suggestion he was “lonely” – don’t we all die alone, in fact?
Then, as most people said, to bring in other random gay people to corroborate her homophobic diatribe, really takes this into the realms of incitement. Likewise the original,headline, whether written by her or sub-editors, “there was nothing natural about Stephen Gately’s death,” might as well have said, “there was nothing natural about Stephen Gately’s life.”
I hope something good comes out of this article. I hope that there is a public recognition of, even an investigation into, what passes for journalism these days. Because even those from older generations, who struggle with modern attitudes to sex and lifestyle, must see that at the heart of this there is the tragic death of a nice guy, and a circle of people left devastated who deserve some protection.

By: Jaguar Thunderwolf

Jaguar Thunderwolf — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:23:52 +0000

I neither agree nor disagree.

But people talk too much.