Jon Voight's Tears

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Jane and Bill must be extremely worried about their grandchildren. I don't know what laws are like in France for getting someone committed, or if Pitt is smart enough to catch on that Jolie needs serious intervention STAT, if that is the case, but I just hope the little ones are okay.

I don't think they will go for commitment unless she is dangerous. I believe there is a big part of manipulation in angelina's part. I know and have met mentally ill people esp. Bipolars and borderlines who use their illness for their own purposes or to their advantage.
To be mentally ill does not mean stupidity.......some of the most mentally ill psychopaths are very smart and dubious.

you're very right. The manipulation and lies are part of their mental illness. Think about it. Normal people don't plot and manipulate everyone in their lives. There's an old saying.....Crazy, not stupid.

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Jane and Bill must be extremely worried about their grandchildren. I don't know what laws are like in France for getting someone committed, or if Pitt is smart enough to catch on that Jolie needs serious intervention STAT, if that is the case, but I just hope the little ones are okay.

I don't think they will go for commitment unless she is dangerous. I believe there is a big part of manipulation in angelina's part. I know and have met mentally ill people esp. Bipolars and borderlines who use their illness for their own purposes or to their advantage.
To be mentally ill does not mean stupidity.......some of the most mentally ill psychopaths are very smart and dubious.

you're very right. The manipulation and lies are part of their mental illness. Think about it. Normal people don't plot and manipulate everyone in their lives. There's an old saying.....Crazy, not stupid.[/quote]



Yup, look at the unabomber, Jeffrey Dahmer etc... smart but twisted,paranoid, illogical. Out of touch with reality. I think this why Jolie caught the attention of many because she is "interesting" not your evryday normal person. Her celebrity status camouflaged her illness.

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I just checked youtube and it's not up there yet. Darn it.

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I just checked youtube and it's not up there yet. Darn it.

what is ? the cracker jack or the crack-pot

[marmaladesky]

Maybe that is why Jane and Bill have been there so long. Because she cracked while they were there and they're helping out while she's tied to a bed in some sanitarium.

My heart breaks for Jon. My 74 year-old-father is dealing with the same thing from my youngest brother. He just married a witch and a narcassist and the first thing she did was convince my brother that his family was bad for him. He's so desperate to keep her, he made up sh!t in his head, dicated by her and now not talking to either of my parents nor his 5 bros. and sisters. It is really a bad situation but I've cried for my father because he is the one most being blamed and for what? We really don't know. It is all convoluded but they went to my brother's little girls ball game and my father and mother saw them. My father was just numb. My mother went over to force them to speak. She stood there and he was talking to someone and his fat wife just sat there he turned and saw here but would NOT even speakr. Finally the gentleman he was talking to was like "um someone is wanting to talk to you" and he finally gave her a grunt His fat wife sat there the whole time and just stared at her. He did not acknowledge my father's birthday OR fathersday this year. It is tearing him apart and my dad is a strong man. It's awful to watch. He and I were extremely close and he won't even call me or answer e-mails or his phone. Fortunately we've forged a relationship with his first wife and we get to see his kids when they are with her. Otherwise, we would not. They were forbidden to spend the night at my sisters. It's just NUTS. Bottom line....JON I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

That's very sad about your brother. I wonder what makes a person do that, manipulate someone into breaking all ties with anyone else that had any significance in his life. What does she gain from this?

[plucky gold]

That's why I posted this. I thought his reaction and comments lent credence to the breakdown rumors.

I read it first in a blog and I was p.o. because I thought Voight was likening Bristol's situation to Angelina's because the blogger used the word "parallel" but re-reading it, Voight choked up on Bristol's situation being the focus of interest and someone asked him if he was reminded of Angelina. Yup, it does sound that Jolie has a recurrence of her mental illness by Voight's reaction.
By now Pitt and his family understand that they are dealing with something serious.........well, except Jane who seem to minimize or is in denial because as Jolie supposedly said that she gets upset because Jane always attribute Jolie's issues to "hormones." I think Jolie know she is "mad."

jane probably did not want to acknowledge her mental illness cos she does not want to bring shame to jolie. even though jane doesnt like her but jolie is the mother of her grandchildren and there's the need to tone the news down. brad and the children are stuck to her for good and brad is also responsible for this knowing her history and yet forcing her to breed like a bitch.

[plucky gold]

That's why I posted this. I thought his reaction and comments lent credence to the breakdown rumors.

I read it first in a blog and I was p.o. because I thought Voight was likening Bristol's situation to Angelina's because the blogger used the word "parallel" but re-reading it, Voight choked up on Bristol's situation being the focus of interest and someone asked him if he was reminded of Angelina. Yup, it does sound that Jolie has a recurrence of her mental illness by Voight's reaction.
By now Pitt and his family understand that they are dealing with something serious.........well, except Jane who seem to minimize or is in denial because as Jolie supposedly said that she gets upset because Jane always attribute Jolie's issues to "hormones." I think Jolie know she is "mad."

I wonder if James Haven is bringing reports back to Jon.

I think Jon is active in knowing what's going on with Angelina except that
Angelina does not want him publicly involved yet with her. I'm sure to her she blames him for putting out her mental illness in public, that is why no amount of damage control or spinning her illness has no effect.....because it came from her own blood.

too late ,jon. you shouldnt have accused your own child of having mental illness for the world to see. no wonder she hated you. also, you and your exwife played a big role in what jolie is today. bad parenting from one generation and now going to another .

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That's why I posted this. I thought his reaction and comments lent credence to the breakdown rumors.

I read it first in a blog and I was p.o. because I thought Voight was likening Bristol's situation to Angelina's because the blogger used the word "parallel" but re-reading it, Voight choked up on Bristol's situation being the focus of interest and someone asked him if he was reminded of Angelina. Yup, it does sound that Jolie has a recurrence of her mental illness by Voight's reaction.
By now Pitt and his family understand that they are dealing with something serious.........well, except Jane who seem to minimize or is in denial because as Jolie supposedly said that she gets upset because Jane always attribute Jolie's issues to "hormones." I think Jolie know she is "mad."

jane probably did not want to acknowledge her mental illness cos she does not want to bring shame to jolie. even though jane doesnt like her but jolie is the mother of her grandchildren and there's the need to tone the news down. brad and the children are stuck to her for good and brad is also responsible for this knowing her history and yet forcing her to breed like a bitch.

Jane, like many people, might just be ignorant about mental illness.

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That's why I posted this. I thought his reaction and comments lent credence to the breakdown rumors.

I read it first in a blog and I was p.o. because I thought Voight was likening Bristol's situation to Angelina's because the blogger used the word "parallel" but re-reading it, Voight choked up on Bristol's situation being the focus of interest and someone asked him if he was reminded of Angelina. Yup, it does sound that Jolie has a recurrence of her mental illness by Voight's reaction.
By now Pitt and his family understand that they are dealing with something serious.........well, except Jane who seem to minimize or is in denial because as Jolie supposedly said that she gets upset because Jane always attribute Jolie's issues to "hormones." I think Jolie know she is "mad."

I wonder if James Haven is bringing reports back to Jon.

I think Jon is active in knowing what's going on with Angelina except that
Angelina does not want him publicly involved yet with her. I'm sure to her she blames him for putting out her mental illness in public, that is why no amount of damage control or spinning her illness has no effect.....because it came from her own blood.

too late ,jon. you shouldnt have accused your own child of having mental illness for the world to see. no wonder she hated you. also, you and your exwife played a big role in what jolie is today. bad parenting from one generation and now going to another .

I disagree. I think that Jon Voight's only crime was to be too lenient with Angelina. I also think he felt he had no recourse in how he handled her mental illness. Think about it: his daughter got herself involved with a bad crowd, was using drugs, and was severely ill. He couldn't get through to her any other way. (And if you notice, for a small time, she DID clean up her act, possibly because Voight went public and she knew people would be watching her for signs.) Perhaps if Britney's family had done something similar, her illness wouldn't have progressed to the point it did.

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Maybe that is why Jane and Bill have been there so long. Because she cracked while they were there and they're helping out while she's tied to a bed in some sanitarium.

My heart breaks for Jon. My 74 year-old-father is dealing with the same thing from my youngest brother. He just married a witch and a narcassist and the first thing she did was convince my brother that his family was bad for him. He's so desperate to keep her, he made up sh!t in his head, dicated by her and now not talking to either of my parents nor his 5 bros. and sisters. It is really a bad situation but I've cried for my father because he is the one most being blamed and for what? We really don't know. It is all convoluded but they went to my brother's little girls ball game and my father and mother saw them. My father was just numb. My mother went over to force them to speak. She stood there and he was talking to someone and his fat wife just sat there he turned and saw here but would NOT even speakr. Finally the gentleman he was talking to was like "um someone is wanting to talk to you" and he finally gave her a grunt His fat wife sat there the whole time and just stared at her. He did not acknowledge my father's birthday OR fathersday this year. It is tearing him apart and my dad is a strong man. It's awful to watch. He and I were extremely close and he won't even call me or answer e-mails or his phone. Fortunately we've forged a relationship with his first wife and we get to see his kids when they are with her. Otherwise, we would not. They were forbidden to spend the night at my sisters. It's just NUTS. Bottom line....JON I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

That's very sad about your brother. I wonder what makes a person do that, manipulate someone into breaking all ties with anyone else that had any significance in his life. What does she gain from this?

As it turns out, she is NOT what she professes herself to be. True narcassists DO sequester their partner and I caught on real quick. True narcassists also know IMMEDIATELY when someone has their number. My family is VERY close and she knew within a month that we were all skeptical of her. It's a long involved storywith many, many details of her lies. He met her through my other sis-in-law who went to school with her. Has kept up but hasn't seen her in over 10-15 years. Just converses by phone. She lived in another state. my brother started conversing with her via phone for about 2 months, flew to her state once to meet her. Came home, continued conversing, she came here ONCE and BOOM they were engaged. My brother has two kids one a little boy who was his little sidekick. Now he has even alienated him because he's shy by nature and won't talk to her much. (The kid only met her ONCE and suddenly she was his mother) Anyway she is pitching a b!tch about that so now he is made to stay in after school and had to go to summer camp when her kid and his daughter got to stay home. This is his "punishmen" because his wife said until he starts talking to her, she won't have anything to do with him or take him anywhere. The poor little guy was only 7 when he met her. We cannot believe my brother is going along with this but he is and he used to be the BEST father and husband. We tried to talk to him about marrying her way too soon, but his first wife hurt him badly and he was desperate I guess. Anyway, it's cause a huge uproar in the family because my other sis-in-law believes her lies since thjey are friends and was trying to tell the rest of the family we weren't being welcoming. This has caused an even BIGGER mess. Like I said it's just a huge mess and we are all ANGRY but my father is hurt the most. When I heard Jon choked up I just sympathised so much.

[Guest]

That's why I posted this. I thought his reaction and comments lent credence to the breakdown rumors.

I read it first in a blog and I was p.o. because I thought Voight was likening Bristol's situation to Angelina's because the blogger used the word "parallel" but re-reading it, Voight choked up on Bristol's situation being the focus of interest and someone asked him if he was reminded of Angelina. Yup, it does sound that Jolie has a recurrence of her mental illness by Voight's reaction.
By now Pitt and his family understand that they are dealing with something serious.........well, except Jane who seem to minimize or is in denial because as Jolie supposedly said that she gets upset because Jane always attribute Jolie's issues to "hormones." I think Jolie know she is "mad."

I wonder if James Haven is bringing reports back to Jon.

I think Jon is active in knowing what's going on with Angelina except that
Angelina does not want him publicly involved yet with her. I'm sure to her she blames him for putting out her mental illness in public, that is why no amount of damage control or spinning her illness has no effect.....because it came from her own blood.

too late ,jon. you shouldnt have accused your own child of having mental illness for the world to see. no wonder she hated you. also, you and your exwife played a big role in what jolie is today. bad parenting from one generation and now going to another .

Baby the world could see it for THEMSELVES. EVERYONE knew joLIE had issues.....in fact she BRAGGED ABOUT IT. He couldn't contact her any other way. When she goes down in flame, because it's progressive, you'll see for yourself.

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How many times has this man been publicly in tears about his daughter? How can he still have so much love for her and she is cold as stone? That is not normal to be that emotionally detached from your own father. She truly must have no soul. Think of what will happen one day when one of the kids does something she doesn't like.

Sometimes parents can cross the line and you have to cut them off. Some parents can be evil.

[marmaladesky]

Maybe that is why Jane and Bill have been there so long. Because she cracked while they were there and they're helping out while she's tied to a bed in some sanitarium.

My heart breaks for Jon. My 74 year-old-father is dealing with the same thing from my youngest brother. He just married a witch and a narcassist and the first thing she did was convince my brother that his family was bad for him. He's so desperate to keep her, he made up sh!t in his head, dicated by her and now not talking to either of my parents nor his 5 bros. and sisters. It is really a bad situation but I've cried for my father because he is the one most being blamed and for what? We really don't know. It is all convoluded but they went to my brother's little girls ball game and my father and mother saw them. My father was just numb. My mother went over to force them to speak. She stood there and he was talking to someone and his fat wife just sat there he turned and saw here but would NOT even speakr. Finally the gentleman he was talking to was like "um someone is wanting to talk to you" and he finally gave her a grunt His fat wife sat there the whole time and just stared at her. He did not acknowledge my father's birthday OR fathersday this year. It is tearing him apart and my dad is a strong man. It's awful to watch. He and I were extremely close and he won't even call me or answer e-mails or his phone. Fortunately we've forged a relationship with his first wife and we get to see his kids when they are with her. Otherwise, we would not. They were forbidden to spend the night at my sisters. It's just NUTS. Bottom line....JON I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

That's very sad about your brother. I wonder what makes a person do that, manipulate someone into breaking all ties with anyone else that had any significance in his life. What does she gain from this?

As it turns out, she is NOT what she professes herself to be. True narcassists DO sequester their partner and I caught on real quick. True narcassists also know IMMEDIATELY when someone has their number. My family is VERY close and she knew within a month that we were all skeptical of her. It's a long involved storywith many, many details of her lies. He met her through my other sis-in-law who went to school with her. Has kept up but hasn't seen her in over 10-15 years. Just converses by phone. She lived in another state. my brother started conversing with her via phone for about 2 months, flew to her state once to meet her. Came home, continued conversing, she came here ONCE and BOOM they were engaged. My brother has two kids one a little boy who was his little sidekick. Now he has even alienated him because he's shy by nature and won't talk to her much. (The kid only met her ONCE and suddenly she was his mother) Anyway she is pitching a b!tch about that so now he is made to stay in after school and had to go to summer camp when her kid and his daughter got to stay home. This is his "punishmen" because his wife said until he starts talking to her, she won't have anything to do with him or take him anywhere. The poor little guy was only 7 when he met her. We cannot believe my brother is going along with this but he is and he used to be the BEST father and husband. We tried to talk to him about marrying her way too soon, but his first wife hurt him badly and he was desperate I guess. Anyway, it's cause a huge uproar in the family because my other sis-in-law believes her lies since thjey are friends and was trying to tell the rest of the family we weren't being welcoming. This has caused an even BIGGER mess. Like I said it's just a huge mess and we are all ANGRY but my father is hurt the most. When I heard Jon choked up I just sympathised so much.

Wow. That is crazy, especially about the little boy. She is a "mother" herself, in fact she is now his step-mother - she is the adult, she should be trying to win the little guy over. I hope your brother snaps out of it soon. Maybe if your dad can just hang in there for a while longer, he will have his son back.

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Poor Jon Voight.

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Jon Voight thinks Palin is a breath of fresh air???!!!

Now we know where Angelina gets her crazy.