Winter of discontent

[The Chairman]

Absolutely not, the Conservative dingy is not my scene at all, i rather fancy the jolly old BNP will get my vote, or no one at all.


Would no one else consider voting BNP?

Waste of a vote...on ethical grounds.....!

Whats the ethics involved?

Voting BNP would not be the right thing to do...!

[NoLies]

But why not? Surely you have reasons.

[The Chairman]

But why not? Surely you have reasons.

" Why not " is not a good enough reason for me to vote BNP....! My reasons other than they have not been in government before means that even if I do vote BNP..they will not be in power so my vote will be a waste.

The BNP appeals to a minority of society..it may be a growing minority but that will not persuade me to vote for them. The BNP cannot strengthen Britain as a country and would alienate the UK from most of europe and most of the world.

[cosmicB]

What do unions matter, when the world's economy is crumbling..?
The Petroleum greed has shattered global world economy... It's like a fellow has just taken a rifle bullet to the knee... All that remain is for him to fall...
The Petroleum Industry shot the guy in both knees... Soon your bank will be bankrupt... Soon your money won't be worth a sulfurous-fart... This is Money's first death-throw.. You'll see...

[The Chairman]

What do unions matter, when the world's economy is crumbling..?
The Petroleum greed has shattered global world economy... It's like a fellow has just taken a rifle bullet to the knee... All that remain is for him to fall...
The Petroleum Industry shot the guy in both knees... Soon your bank will be bankrupt... Soon your money won't be worth a sulfurous-fart... This is Money's first death-throw.. You'll see...

The BNP is not a union...!

[cosmicB]

It's based on money.. same thing.. same can of worms...

[Bushwalker]

BNP ? Isn't that the British Nazi Party ?

Descendants of Mosley's "Black Shirts"...

[NoLies]

Why not " is not a good enough reason for me to vote BNP....! My reasons other than they have not been in government before means that even if I do vote BNP..they will not be in power so my vote will be a waste.

Every Political Party has to start somewhere just as did Labour and Conservative, and if you vote Labour or Liberal your vote will be wasted also. The Tories are going to the next one hands down. The BNP are taking 25% of the vote in some places all ready, and even beating the Conservatives and Labour Labour in a couple of places, their rise i think will be quicker than you might perhaps think.


To be alienated from Europe can only be a good thing, at least the BNP do believe in democracy, almost every country in the EU was taken in, without a vote from the people, how is that democratic?

Decisions in Europe are being made by non elected people, how is that Democratic?

Surely the survival of democracy is the most important thing, would you care to be ruled by another Hitler?


Cosmic BI reckon your absolutely bang on, but its not just with oil, or at least its not the case in Britain, the same rabid greed, has also driven up Gas, and Electric prices, to a point that ensures thousands of OAP’s will freeze to death this winter, and many more will suffer badly from cold, and the same is going to happen with water pretty soon, Water companies have warned that there prices are going to rocket by at least 20% and this all is part of great Europe plan.

BNP ? Isn't that the British Nazi Party ?

No its not Bushwalker, that’s just a rumour spread by people who are not politically savy enough to understand the system, and repeat the rumours the've heard parrot fashion, because they are not bright enough to work it out the truth for themselves. Some parrot the rumour, to try and make themselves look intelligent, unfortunately those unintelligent people are the majority, it’s the same old sheep following the Judas goat routine.

I usually find that when I ask these people why they don’t like the BNP, that they don’t even know what BNP policy is at all, as far as they know, the BNP, could be promising 1 million quid to each British subject

The BNP have some good policies, but like all other parties, some not so good also, over all though they are the working man’s friend.

[Winston Smith]

Irrespective of the well publicised racist policies that the BNP advocate, they are also firm believers in a totalitarian form of government. For that reason alone I would not vote for them. And as the Chairman says, it is a wasted vote. Not only have they not got enough candidates to contest every seat, but if the Lib Dems cannot get more than 30-40 seats every election and they are Britain's strongest party outside of the "big two" then what hope have the BNP got? They just haven't got the money or the wherewithal.

[NoLies]

Irrespective of the well publicised racist policies that the BNP advocate, they are also firm believers in a totalitarian form of government.

What are the racist policies that you refer to?

[Winston Smith]

Irrespective of the well publicised racist policies that the BNP advocate, they are also firm believers in a totalitarian form of government.

What are the racist policies that you refer to?

First paragraph of their manifesto:

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.

We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.

You can dress it up in fancy words if you like...but if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

[Winston Smith]

Their remaining policies in brief:

Withdrawal from the EU. (I don't want this so I would not vote for them)

Disbanding of the Commonwealth, to be replaced by a Commonwealth of self-governing white states. (I don't want this so I won't vote for them)

British ownership of British industry and its resources. (I don't want this so I won't vote for them)

Tougher treatment of criminals including return of the death sentence. (I certainly don't agree with the death penalty)

Stronger discipline in schools, including "the sacking of trendy teachers". (Great in theory...like to see them do it)

An end to overseas aid. (I don't want this so I won't vote for them)

"A return to healthy moral values aimed at strengthening the family and community." (What the f*ck is that exactly? Just more rhetoric that they claim to despise)

Here are some more reasons not to vote for them:

1. The BNP doesn’t even support the England football team because it has black players. (In 2002 it actually backed Denmark because it was an all-white team.)

2. The BNP’s leader Nick Griffin has insulted the 355,000 Britons who died during WW2 by saying that Britain was wrong to fight against Hitler.

3. The BNP constitution clearly states that non-white people can never be British.

4. BNP policy is against any form of racial integration, including mixed marriages.

5. BNP leader Nick Griffin has repeatedly denied that the Holocaust happened or that Jews were exterminated by the Nazis. He even described the Holocaust as "The Holohoax".

6. The BNP supported apartheid in South Africa and it wants the same type of policies to be brought in to Britain too.

7. The BNP is linked to hardline Nazis and racists across Europe and North America.

8. According to the BNP, Olympic double-gold medal winner Kelly Holmes, World Cup final try scorer Jason Robinson and boxing star Amir Khan can never be British.

9. This is a party that also opposed the Tsunami appeal, Band Aid, Live Aid and Live 8.

10. They claim to take a stand against anti-social behaviour yet many of their candidates are convicted thugs and fraudsters.

[NoLies]

Nice one winy, you have just given a list of some of the BNP’s strong points

Their remaining policies in brief:
Withdrawal from the EU. (I don't want this so I would not vote for them)

We the British, like just about every other country in the EU, were taken in without a vote, that is not democratic.

In polls done regarding joining the EU, between 64% and 75% of people said they did not want to join Europe, how undemocratic is our Eu membership?

Do you not believe in democracy?

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

What’s wrong with that? Why should we be a minority in our country? Under positive discrimination, Black Asian and all other ethnic minorities get advantage's over white Brits through Possitive Discrimination, The more of those people that enter this country; the more discrimination there is against White British National’s

Why would any White Brit, want even more people being given advantage over themselves and their families. The BNP, would stop that discrimination immediately.

To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration,

Why should we not beallowed to defend and maintain our own culture? Every ethnic minority is allowed maintain their culture and practice’s here in Britain.

the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants,

What’s wrong with that? They are all law breakers, why would anyone not want that? Why would we want more thieves, rapists, child molesters, and murderers in this country? Repatriate them, and this country is better off for it. More crime per head, is committed by immigrants than British people, that’s a fact the government agree with, Good on the BNP for making Britain a better place.

An end to overseas aid. (I don't want this so I won't vote for them)

Whats wrong with that, that money should be spent on saving British pensioners from Freezing to death this winter and for bringing British children out of the poverty trap, and actually looking after Brits first,

Good on the BNP for that. Our politicians were elected to look after our interests, not other peoples.

"A return to healthy moral values aimed at strengthening the family and community." (What the f*ck is that exactly? Just more rhetoric that they claim to despise)

Cant you work it out yourself, ok ile explain it, it means, to bring back common decency, it means working to keep families together, and reducing the amount of divorce’s in this country, which create single parent families, the majority of crime is committed by children from single parent families.
It means making the system more financially advantages for the married couple with a family, than it is at the moment, to encourage couples to stay together. So what's wrong with that, are you anti family?

The BNP doesn’t even support the England football team because it has black players. (In 2002 it actually backed Denmark because it was an all-white team.)

On the grand scale of things, football, is not even a piss in the ocean, and then again, how do you know that? Ive certainly not seen it said anywhere.

The BNP’s leader Nick Griffin has insulted the 355,000 Britons who died during WW2 by saying that Britain was wrong to fight against Hitler.

That’s no insult, it’s a true, its no insult to the troops, its an insult to the prime minister of the day, for getting Britain in to a war that was not ours, exactly the same as Iraq and Afghanistan today

British ownership of British industry and its resources. (I don't want this so I won't vote for them)

What’s wrong with that, keeping firms British to pay tax to our own Government, instead of foreign governments, it makes financial sense.

Tougher treatment of criminals including return of the death sentence. (I certainly don't agree with the death penalty)

This also a good point, there is no real deterrent now days, which is one of the reasons crime has escalated incredibly, Hanging Paedophiles is the best idea ive ever heard, string up high and string them up often. Do you put child rapist’s welfare, before innocent children’s safety?

Stronger discipline in schools, including "the sacking of trendy teachers".

At least you agree with that one.

BNP policy is against any form of racial integration, including mixed marriages.

That’s one thing that I do not agree with myself either, but there are even more things i don’t agree with in every other political party, not least positive discrimination.

BNP leader Nick Griffin has repeatedly denied that the Holocaust happened or that Jews were exterminated by the Nazis. He even described the Holocaust as "The Holohoax".

Free speech, do you not believe in that? Your surely not against free speech…….or are you?

According to the BNP, Olympic double-gold medal winner Kelly Holmes, World Cup final try scorer Jason Robinson and boxing star Amir Khan can never be British.

I have not seen that said anywhere, do you have a link to the story? Or can you tell us the source of that statement.

This is a party that also opposed the Tsunami appeal, Band Aid, Live Aid and Live 8.

Do you have a link to back up that statement?

They claim to take a stand against anti-social behavior yet many of their candidates are convicted thugs and fraudsters.

Who are the criminals in the BNP? Do you know any of their names and what crimes they committed?

[NoLies]

Its not only in Britain where Nationalism is on the rise, and its caused by the same problems, mass immigration and the forced membership of the EU.

I wonder if those in power are being racist against it own citizens deliberately, to cause a surge in Nationalism? Its the only reason i can think of, for their undemocratic racism.

France also has a strong Nationalistic movement, which country will be the next i wonder.

The Austrian Alliance for the Future of Austria party, started off just the same as the BNP, and now look at them.

As nearly 30% of Austrian voters back the extremists... The far-Right and a chilling wake-up call to all of Europe.

The dramatic surge in votes for the radical Right in Austria's general election has set alarm bells ringing all over Europe.

Almost one-in-three Austrians voted at the weekend for one of two far-Right parties.

The first is headed by a candidate who used to attend paramilitary rallies where members dressed up in outlawed . uniforms; the second is led by a man who praised the wartime service of Waffen SS men.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

[The Chairman]

Its not only in Britain where Nationalism is on the rise, and its caused by the same problems, mass immigration and the forced membership of the EU.

I wonder if those in power are being racist against it own citizens deliberately, to cause a surge in Nationalism? Its the only reason i can think of, for their undemocratic racism.

France also has a strong Nationalistic movement, which country will be the next i wonder.

The Austrian Alliance for the Future of Austria party, started off just the same as the BNP, and now look at them.

As nearly 30% of Austrian voters back the extremists... The far-Right and a chilling wake-up call to all of Europe.

The dramatic surge in votes for the radical Right in Austria's general election has set alarm bells ringing all over Europe.

Almost one-in-three Austrians voted at the weekend for one of two far-Right parties.

The first is headed by a candidate who used to attend paramilitary rallies where members dressed up in outlawed . uniforms; the second is led by a man who praised the wartime service of Waffen SS men.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

You shouldnt feel alone in your bubble then...!