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Postby Bushwalker on Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:25 am

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Nothing new for Austria...

They always have the highest Nationalist votes in Europe..

Hitler was their favourite son in the 1930s.

They elected an former Wehrmacht Lieutenant as President - several times..

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Postby billy69 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:35 am

went to watch Jim Davidson last night as a one night stand comedy - he has it all sorted & doesn't see either labour or Cons as worth voting for these days - he's offered his services as next PM !

& the audience cheered - he couldn't do worse than the current or next proposed muppet

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Postby Winston Smith on Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:50 am

No Lies...I ain't going to go round searching for links on the statements I made as I haven't got the time nor the inclination. You will just have to take my word for it. And the simple fact is that the British people will not vote in any large numbers for the BNP not while I have a hole in my @rse. One thing you should learn from our history is that we despise extremist politics in any way shape or form, left wing or right wing. The closest we ever got was Oswald Mosely and his Blackshirts and even he was ridiculed as a joke figure.
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Postby The Chairman on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:17 pm

What I can say about the winter of discontent is that now the banks and building societies had financial diarrhea....! It is now the turn of big and small business towards the end of the year.
John Lewis isnt doing good with a fall of 5.8% in this final quarter and waiting for the latest results from Tesco supermarket....! Morissons is doing well as a budget supermarket....!

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Postby NoLies on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:07 pm

Winston Smith wrote:No Lies...I ain't going to go round searching for links on the statements I made as I haven't got the time nor the inclination. You will just have to take my word for it. And the simple fact is that the British people will not vote in any large numbers for the BNP not while I have a hole in my @rse. One thing you should learn from our history is that we despise extremist politics in any way shape or form, left wing or right wing. The closest we ever got was Oswald Mosely and his Blackshirts and even he was ridiculed as a joke figure.


I accept what you say as your opinion winston, wile i don't know you, I'm sure your as honest as the rest of us, and i enjoy hearing other peoples opinions, its the only way to learn certain things. :D

I have to say though, that i find the Labour party extreme, but in a different way to the BNP, and they have held power for the last years.

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Postby NoLies on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:10 pm

The Chairman wrote:What I can say about the winter of discontent is that now the banks and building societies had financial diarrhea....! It is now the turn of big and small business towards the end of the year.
John Lewis isnt doing good with a fall of 5.8% in this final quarter and waiting for the latest results from Tesco supermarket....! Morissons is doing well as a budget supermarket....!


So your in to Stocks and Chairs then Chairman, got any tips for us?

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Postby NoLies on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:11 pm

billy69 wrote:went to watch Jim Davidson last night as a one night stand comedy - he has it all sorted & doesn't see either labour or Cons as worth voting for these days - he's offered his services as next PM !

& the audience cheered - he couldn't do worse than the current or next proposed muppet


Is Davidson still as funy as he used to be, ive seen nothing of him for years.

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Postby The Chairman on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:16 pm

AllLies wrote:
The Chairman wrote:What I can say about the winter of discontent is that now the banks and building societies had financial diarrhea....! It is now the turn of big and small business towards the end of the year.
John Lewis isnt doing good with a fall of 5.8% in this final quarter and waiting for the latest results from Tesco supermarket....! Morissons is doing well as a budget supermarket....!


So your in to Stocks and Chairs then Chairman, got any tips for us?


Its a buyers market.....FTSE closes up 1.74%..! FTSE units can be purchased for under a pound.

Its also a buyers market when it comes to property if you can get over the hurdles such as a large deposit....!
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Postby NoLies on Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:01 pm

I dont know about Stocks and shares, but its far too early to buy into property, at least it is in Britain, house prices are going to drop a lot lot further yet.

By my reckoning, it will be another 18 months to 2 years ish before property prices hit rock bottom, that will be the time to buy.

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Postby Winston Smith on Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:02 pm

NoLies wrote:
Winston Smith wrote:No Lies...I ain't going to go round searching for links on the statements I made as I haven't got the time nor the inclination. You will just have to take my word for it. And the simple fact is that the British people will not vote in any large numbers for the BNP not while I have a hole in my @rse. One thing you should learn from our history is that we despise extremist politics in any way shape or form, left wing or right wing. The closest we ever got was Oswald Mosely and his Blackshirts and even he was ridiculed as a joke figure.


I accept what you say as your opinion winston, wile i don't know you, I'm sure your as honest as the rest of us, and i enjoy hearing other peoples opinions, its the only way to learn certain things. :D

I have to say though, that i find the Labour party extreme, but in a different way to the BNP, and they have held power for the last years.


All I am saying is beware of the BNP. They may have a new image and dress up their policies in friendly words but underneath they are still the same old thugs and racists. If they get any sort of power just watch the sheep's clothing fall to the ground.
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Postby DanMc on Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:21 pm

NoLies wrote:
billy69 wrote:went to watch Jim Davidson last night as a one night stand comedy - he has it all sorted & doesn't see either labour or Cons as worth voting for these days - he's offered his services as next PM !

& the audience cheered - he couldn't do worse than the current or next proposed muppet


Is Davidson still as funy as he used to be, ive seen nothing of him for years.

I would think so. He was always about as funny as racist homophobic sexist crap can get.

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Postby NoLies on Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:55 pm

All I am saying is beware of the BNP. They may have a new image and dress up their policies in friendly words but underneath they are still the same old thugs and racists. If they get any sort of power just watch the sheep's clothing fall to the ground.


I understand what your saying Winstone, but what ime saying is that the Labour party is racist party also, in that it its policy of Positive Discrimination, discriminates on the ground’s of race against White British citizens and both Conservative and Liberal parties also support Positive Discrimination.

Labour have introduced the exact same policy as that the BNP advocated and that is paying immigrants to go back home, Labour has been doing that for some months, so would you agree then, that Labour are also a racist party?

And when you talk of thugs and criminals, the three main parties, Conservative, Labour and Liberal parties have far more criminals and thugs than the BNP, take a look at the list below, and then remember this list covers only up to 1980, there have been many more crimes since then.
So as I see it, the BNP are better than the other three, and the BNP, are the only party that would stop the racism that’s called Positive Discrimination, against white Brits.
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Tory sex offenders

.[quote] Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell - Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.

. Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys - Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.

. Tory Party Vice-Chairman of Welsh Conservatives, Andrew Baker - Received a banning order for stalking women.

. Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor - Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys, and was forced to resign.

. Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington - Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC. Placed on sex offenders register and forced to resign.

. Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy - Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.

. Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan - Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.

. Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer - Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.

. Tory Party councillor and former Mayor (Wrexham), Michael Morris - Convicted and put on probation for 2 years, for the indecent assault of another man, which was captured on CCTV.

. Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, who's job includes running the Tory GLA website - Arrested for allegedly downloading child porn. He is currently suspended while the Police investigation continues.

VIOLENCE


. Tory Party MP (Henley), Boris Johnson - Caught on tape plotting to have a man beaten up by a hired thug. The man was a journalist who had written an unsympathetic piece about Johnson's close friend - Convicted fraudster, Darius Guppy.

. Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone - in Leader, Michael Howard's constituency), Robert Richdale - 41 year history of crime, involving 30 convictions and 5 prison sentences. Richdales enormous criminal record, which covers 10 pages of A4 paper, includes convictions for assault, theft, causing death by dangerous driving, forgery, drugs offences, possession of an offensive weapon, and sex attacks against underage schoolgirls. The Tory Party election campaign literature described Richdale as "a family man" who had a "compassionate personality"

CORRUPTION

. Tory Party councillor (Dudley), Abdul Quadus, who was also chairman of the Dudley Police Committee and a Tory Party spokesman on crime - Convicted and jailed for 6 months for passport fraud and assisting illegal immigration from his native country - Pakistan.

. Former Tory Party Cabinet Minister, Jonathan Aitkin - Convicted and jailed for Perjury and Conspiracy to Pervert the Course of Justice.

. Former Tory Leader of Westminster Council, Dame Shirley Porter - Fled to Israel to evade justice after indulging in fraud, corruption and gerrymandering on a massive scale, and stealing millions of pounds from local taxpayers.

. Tory Party Councillor ( Margate ), Colin Kiddel - Forced to resign after Police investigation into his alleged theft and embezzlement of funds from the local `Dreamland` Amusement Park.

. Former Tory Party Chairman and London Mayoral Candidate, Jeffrey Archer - Convicted and jailed for Perjury and Conspiracy to Pervert the Course of Justice.


Labour Party Criminals

SEX offenders

Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn - Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.

. Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner - Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.

. Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green - Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault against little girls between the age of 6 and 10. He raped one woman on her wedding day.

. Labour Mayor (Todmordon) John Winstanley - Convicted and jailed for rape and threats to kill. After raping and threatening to kill his terrified victim, Winstanley then ordered the woman to go on all fours before urinating on her.

. Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.

. Labour's current Parliamentary Candidate (Reading East) Tony Page - Has 2 Convictions for Acts of Gross Indecency` in public toilets.

. Labour Mayor (Burnley) Mark Swainston - Convicted of sex offences in public toilet.

. Entire Labour Party conspired to conceal the activities of Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.

. Labour Councillor (North Yorkshire) Raymond Coats - Court appearance for indecently assaulting a woman.

. Labour MP (Rhonda Valley) Chris Bryant poses in his pants on the Internet to advertise himself for casual gay sex encounters. Describes himself as "Horny as buggery" and says, "I'd love a good long F***".

. Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding - Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

. Labour MP Ron Davies was mugged by a Rasta on Clapham Common while cruising for gay sex. He was photographed again by the media recently, engaged in some `man-on-man` action in a field off a motorway. "I was only looking for badgers" he said.

. Labour Councillor (Durham), Derrick Payne - Arrested by Police following a sex attack.

. Labour MP, Joe Ashton - Caught up in a Police raid while frequenting a brothel. Tried to lie his way out of the scandal.

. Labour Councillor (Shropshire), Derek Woodvine - Arrested by Police in anti-porn operation.

. Labour Councillor (Basildon), Tony Wright - Forced to resign after being caught using his council computer to download porn.

. Labour MP (Sheffield), Clive Betts - Suspended from Parliament for 7 days after being caught forging immigration papers to extend the stay of his Brazilian rent-boy gay lover.

. According to media reports, the names of 2 former Labour Cabinet Ministers said to be `Household names` appear on the `Operation Ore ` list of subscribers to hard-core child pornography. The same FBI investigation, which led to the arrest of rock star Pete Townsend.

VIOLENCE

. Labour Councillor (Kirkby, Merseyside) Charlie Preston - Convicted and jailed for 5 years in 1982 for assault and burglary. Preston broke into the home of a 64 year old man, and beat him up in his bed as he slept before robbing the house. The judge described the case as "As bad a matter of burglary as I can remember" Preston also holds the position on the Council of... `Deputy Cabinet Member for Youth, Citizenship, and Community Safety`.

. Labour Councillor ( Wales ) Denis Jones - Convicted and jailed for unlawful wounding after attacking a neighbour with a sledgehammer.

. Labour Councillor ( Wales ) Ken Brookman - Bit off a mans ear in a dispute over a seat on a train!

. Labour Councillor and former Mayor (Stockton), Keith Dobinson - Investigated by Police for alleged assault on an OAP, which left the old man of 79, hospitalised.

. Labour MP, Tommy Graham - Expelled from Party for his part in driving a person to suicide.

. Labour Councillors (Ilfracombe), Brian Cotton and Tony Cooper - Investigated by Police following serious allegations of Harassment.

CORRUPTION

. Labour Councillor (Sandwell) Mohamed Niwaz convicted of illegally obtaining ÂŁ20,000 in Housing Grants.

. Labour Councillors in Doncaster - 23 Convicted and 2 jailed for massive fraud, corruption and theft of public funds. Investigation also uncovered massive Labour Party corruption in neighbouring Rotherham .

. Labour Party Councillor ( Blackburn ), Mohammed Hussein - arrested together with 6 Labour activists on suspicion of Election rigging.

. Labour MP Mohammed Sawar ( Britain 's first Asian MP - Glasgow) was the subject of a major News of the World investigation a few years ago into bribery and corruption. Despite this, the massive Asian population in his constituency keeps him safely in his seat.

. Labour MP (Leicester) and former Cabinet Minister, Keith Vaz - Investigated for fraud and corruption before quietly leaving his Europe Minister post with `health problems`. According to his former Secretary, Vaz does absolutely nothing in his constituency other than help local Pakistanis with their Immigration cases (which also helps to explain the `whites a minority` status of Leicester and the safe Labour seat of Mr Vaz)

. Labour Party Euro MP, David Martin is currently being investigated for an alleged expenses fraud involving `hundreds of thousands of pounds`.

. Labour Councillor (Glamorgan), Shawn Stringer - Forced to resign following Police investigation into financial corruption.

OTHER



. Tony Blair recently appointed his close friend/crony and colleague of his wife - Ken Macdonald as the new Director of Public Prosecutions, despite the fact he has a drugs conviction.

. William Straw - Son of Labour Foreign Secretary, and former Home Secretary - Jack Straw, was cautioned by Police for drug dealing, amid a frantic Government attempt to cover up the matter and gag the media as to his identity. Jack Straw also has a brother who was convicted of a sex attack on a schoolgirl. Lovely family!

. Homosexual mass murderer; Dennis Nielsen, who strangled and dismembered 16 young men in the 1980`s, was also a highly active member of Labour fringe groups such as the Anti-Nazi League, and the SWP. That's when he wasn't busy boiling peoples heads in a pot, or masturbating over the corpses of his victims.

Liberal Democrat Criminals

SEX offenders

. Lib-Dem Council candidate (Tower Hamlets), Justin Sillman - Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys.

. Lib-Dem Councillor and Mayoral Candidate ( Sheffield ), Francis Butler- Prosecuted for indecent assault of a young boy.

. Lib-Dem Councillor ( Stockport ) Neil Derbyshire - Sexually assaulted a 16-year old boy in a public toilet. He was caught with a plastic bag containing Lubricant, plastic surgical gloves, a condom, and underpants.

. Lib-Dem Councillor ( Preston ), Bill Chadwick - Charged with: Making an indecent photograph of a child, Incitement to rape, Incitement to murder, Incitement to kidnap, and Incitement to torture. Chadwick's gay lover - Alan Valentine, is also a Lib-Dem councillor.


VIOLENCE

. Lib-Dem councillor (North Norfolk), Catherine Wilkins - Also a nurse until she was struck off the nursing register after being found guilty of mistreating patients and abusive behaviour.

. Lib-Dem Parliamentary candidate ( Burnley ), Paul Wright - Charged with drunken assault on his `lodger`. Wright sobbed like a baby during the court case, and the case is to be re-listed and heard again after the jury failed to reach a verdict.

. Lib-Dem Councillor ( Sheffield ) Trevor Morgan - Convicted and jailed for 9 months for unlawful wounding/dangerous driving. After attacking an elderly woman's Golden retriever dog by throwing pepper in its face, he then seriously injured the dog's owner - 57-year old Barbara Johnson, with his car as she tried to stop him escaping.

CORRUPTION

. Lib-Dem Councillor (Peterborough), Michael Jackson - Prosecuted for 21 counts of Theft and False Accounting.

. 3 Lib-Dem Councillors convicted and jailed for Election Fraud in Hackney in 2001

. 12 Lib-Dem officials convicted of Election Fraud in Oldham in 2001.

. Julie Roberts - Convicted of 9 counts of benefit fraud in 2003. 2 weeks after the court case, she was elected as a Lib-Dem councillor in Leicester !

. Lib-Dem councillor (Portsmouth), Ray Race - Convicted and jailed for 4 months for election rigging, along with Lib-Dem colleague Michael Hayward. Race was arrested again in July 2003 for threatening a witness who helped to convict him.

. Lib-Dem councillor (Lambeth), Gabriel Fernandez - Forced to resign after being investigated for benefit fraud.

OTHER

. Former Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe - Stood trail for conspiring to have his blackmailing gay lover murdered.
Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer - Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.



. Entire Labour Party conspired to conceal the activities of Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.

Better than the BNP? – Don’t think so, do you?

8 Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer - Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.


. Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.

Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington - Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC. Placed on sex offenders register and forced to resign. .

I have run out of Liberal peadophiles and sex offenders just now, so i will continue to show the Labour and Conservative sex offenders, before i go on to Asonists, Fraudsters, violent thugs etc.

What do you reckon, do you have more respect for the main three parties, than the BNP now?

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Postby The Chairman on Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:02 pm

The main three parties have done more for this country than the BNP ever will....!
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Postby NoLies on Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:02 pm

DanMc wrote:
NoLies wrote:
billy69 wrote:went to watch Jim Davidson last night as a one night stand comedy - he has it all sorted & doesn't see either labour or Cons as worth voting for these days - he's offered his services as next PM !

& the audience cheered - he couldn't do worse than the current or next proposed muppet


Is Davidson still as funy as he used to be, ive seen nothing of him for years.

I would think so. He was always about as funny as racist homophobic sexist crap can get.


Yes but apart from that, he's a lovely chap. :lol:

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Postby The Colonel on Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:53 pm

The BNP are worthless to this country.

They are completely racist. While I do not like the present situation with the Muslims of this country, their views as a whole meet with my complete disapproval. If there is ever a risk of a Muslim takeover in this country the army will assume control of the country. That is fact. I do not mind the Sikhs or Hindu's as I think they are happy to live in the UK and are respectful of British people and British tradition.

The BNP also want to recriminalise homosexuality, repeal the legislation on equality, restore Section 28, allow employers, others, and schools to discriminate, and to repeal the Civil Partnerships Act.

They are also a bunch of religious nutjobs.
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