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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:14 pm

Look, if people want to hate on us, i say let them. But when they attack us, they should expect to receive no mercy.

Iraq didn't attack us, but even then, we came there to free them from saddam...but they obviously don't care. So I say we just take their oil, get out of there, and let them kill eachother.

I can't believe how unthankful they are.
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Postby elliott20 on Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:16 pm

interesting. I need to find this book and read it.
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Postby Guest on Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:33 pm

elliott20 wrote:interesting. I need to find this book and read it.


try Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/.-Has-No-Clothes-Foreign/dp/0945999984

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Postby elliott20 on Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:41 pm

Just ordered my own copy.
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Postby Guest on Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:45 pm

A little character check on Karen Kwiatkowski:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13659

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Postby mogadishu on Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:37 pm

Blond Adult Girl wrote:Look, if people want to hate on us, i say let them. But when they attack us, they should expect to receive no mercy.

Iraq didn't attack us


yes that is a minor technicality that we won't account for.

So I say we just take their oil, get out of there, and let them kill eachother.

I can't believe how unthankful they are.


Well unlike you, they clearly didn't have the benefit of attending Charm School.

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Postby Kaiser Soeze on Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:55 pm

"Since it is difficult to join them together, it is safer to be feared than to be loved when one of the two must be lacking."

"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil."

"There is no surer sign of decay in a country than to see the rites of religion held in contempt."

"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred."

"It is much more secure to be feared than to be loved."

"Hence it comes about that all armed Prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed Prophets have been destroyed."

"Men shrink less from offending one who inspires love than one who inspires fear."

"Politics have no relation to morals."

"The fact is that a man who wants to act virtuously in every way necessarily comes to grief among so many who are not virtuous."

"There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others."

Niccolo Machiavelli

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Postby Guest on Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:33 am

Kaiser Soeze wrote:"Since it is difficult to join them together, it is safer to be feared than to be loved when one of the two must be lacking."

"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil."

"There is no surer sign of decay in a country than to see the rites of religion held in contempt."

"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred."

"It is much more secure to be feared than to be loved."

"Hence it comes about that all armed Prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed Prophets have been destroyed."

"Men shrink less from offending one who inspires love than one who inspires fear."

"Politics have no relation to morals."

"The fact is that a man who wants to act virtuously in every way necessarily comes to grief among so many who are not virtuous."

"There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others."

Niccolo Machiavelli



Hmmm, deep ! :o

What aboout this 'Hickory dicory dock , the mosue ran up the clock , the clock struck one and..........................hickory dickory dick' :lol:

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Postby Guest on Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:34 am

. wrote:
Kaiser Soeze wrote:"Since it is difficult to join them together, it is safer to be feared than to be loved when one of the two must be lacking."

"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil."

"There is no surer sign of decay in a country than to see the rites of religion held in contempt."

"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred."

"It is much more secure to be feared than to be loved."

"Hence it comes about that all armed Prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed Prophets have been destroyed."

"Men shrink less from offending one who inspires love than one who inspires fear."

"Politics have no relation to morals."

"The fact is that a man who wants to act virtuously in every way necessarily comes to grief among so many who are not virtuous."

"There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others."

Niccolo Machiavelli

Hmmm, deep ! :o

What aboout this 'Hickory dicory dock , the mosue ran up the clock , the clock struck one and..........................hickory dickory dick' :lol:

guess thay didn't get to machiavelli in third grade, when you dropped out of school. :lol:

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Postby Guest on Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:26 am

Kaiser Soeze wrote:"There is no surer sign of decay in a country than to see the rites of religion held in contempt."


And what is it when religion is co-opted to support a drive towards materialism? (i.e. God wants you to be rich and successful).

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Postby Guest on Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:28 pm

. wrote:
Kaiser Soeze wrote:"There is no surer sign of decay in a country than to see the rites of religion held in contempt."


And what is it when religion is co-opted to support a drive towards materialism? (i.e. God wants you to be rich and successful).


It's materialism.

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Re: American Hatred

Postby 08pooled on Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:40 pm

DamnYankee wrote:I do not get the quantity of hate-filled posts aimed against Americans on here. Some are really quite offensive.

I understand that many do not agree with the current Administration's policies. Indeed, many of us Americans do not either. But painting "Americans" per se as the enemy is a bit myoptic and oversimplified a view of the global problem today. Painting all or most "Americans" as lard-filled, donut and fast-food, petro-addicted gluttons is truly a lame assesment to then conclude that most of the world's woes are due to America and its culture.

Think for a moment what real power Americans have. We are consumers but what real choice do we have? Go to a shopping mall and it is isles and isle of the same flashing things just packaged with flashier labels. There is the Gillette Ultra razor blade, then the Mach 5 blade, then the Super Glide. All promise you a superior quality, but they all due the same damn thing with negligible difference in effectively. People are inundated with a barrage of options that leave them all wondering if they made the best choice and if this guy or that person got a better product or deal or what have you. Less options is what I say we need.

At work, we work to get paid to keep working to work to simply get through another work week to live--not live to work. How many truly have exciting careers and free to do what they want. You basically live to pay an every increasing rent or home mortage and work to save what little you have left. We live our lives around the hands of time on the clock, having little time to even think or plan our next life move. Few live life so much as it lives it for them. We are of a culture that is fast paced and neurotic and if you asked the common man, he will say that he doesn't like it, but what real choice does he have to survive.

And this is a problem not only that Americans have to face now. Your own UK is now facing increase heart-attack rates, obesity, and diabetes. China, which is now gaining quickly economically has shown similar problems in its large cities. EVen in more traditional lands in Europe that resisted modernity that unquestionably has been lead by the US have this problem. The revelation of just how much modernity is to blame I find most striking in Greece. Thirty years ago, there were no such things as diabetes or stree in the main land as there is now, which today reflects the same status as the major cities of any nation. Yet just a few kilometers away on the isles, live is idyllic and people live well into their 90's (men as well as women) and so healthy that a 30 year old would envy a 60 year old in many cases. What happened? The mainland got "corporatized" and adopted the West's 9-to-5 work habit, including overtime and all the high-stess competition that goes with it. More people crowded in and rents went soring. Now men are dying often before 70 and cancers and heart disease have sky rocketed. The same thing is happening to Italy in some places now and even the French are getting a bit wider in the gut, though they have retain their more even-pace cultural lifestyle (kudos to them!).

The probelm isn't America but the corporate gobalization of the world. It enslaves us to workaholics without a choice in the matter, in which the quality of life is measuredly increase in terms of the medical and technolgical breakthroughs that such progess that modernity naturally brings, but a lowering of the quality of life in terms of the reduction in spiritual fulfillment and happiness and genuine variety.

You wait when those 1 billion plus china men start having what they already naturally want: what the rest of the west like the US has. Wait until they start mass producing a 50 million plus cars each year and those china men start lining up at the pumps. And China is not the only one. Russia, India. These are massive countries like the US in size and with larger populations. If you think that the problems we now face and which are growing are only limited to the US, then you have a poor understanding of human nature.

America might have gotten us started on this road, but it is a curious historical incident. Modernity would have come about eventually and perhaps in another system like fascism one far more regulated. Mass consumerism and the sense of entitlement without stopping to realize we all share one planet and its resources are limited and finite is the real enemy we must all collectively face. This will be the greatest challenge to humanity and one that will undoubtedly become more important in terms of increased wars and population and health effects if not addressed as a collective species--and not seen as one nation versus another or with an Them vs. US mentality.
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Re: American Hatred

Postby Guest on Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:56 pm

08pooled wrote:nice :twisted:


Who are you?
Lena's bastard son that can't quite dig up real old posts like she can?

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:45 am

i hate yanks....i dunno why....i just do... :evil:

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Postby rough silk on Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:22 pm

To save me reading the thread will someone please explain whether it's about American who hate, or about why Americans are hated?

If it's the former, an American filled with hate murdered John Lennon. If it's the latter, John Lennon could only have been murdered by a hate-filled American.

Americans have redefined the meaning of the word. Hatred is as hatred does .

Personally I don't hate Americans as individuals. I do, however, despise the American nation for its treeachery, its naivety, its jingoism and its total lack of understanding of what makes the world go round, these days. It's no longer the almighty dollar, it's religious fundamentalism and Americans have unwittingly been leading the way for years. Ever since they murdered John Lennon, in fact.

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