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Postby Taxingperson on Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:29 pm

sally2006 wrote:I never wanted kids ever.But I now have 2. When i got pregnant with my first son I was married and we both worked. It was a complete and utter shock and I was stunned! But...there is no way I would have had an abortion. My boys are 7 and 4 now. I like these ages as we can have decent conversations etc. They are also very independant and can do lots for themselves.

I always said I would never get married or have kids - I did both. I am glad that I have my boys and that I will have them in my life when I am older.


Yes, well everyone keeps telling me that I'll change my mind and, who knows, maybe I will but I seriously doubt it.

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Postby Guest on Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:42 pm

my friend was always AGAINST having children and now she has three. i think she's more mature since she's had them. not that i think everyone SHOULD have children, i think whatever someone wants is best for them.

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Postby Guest on Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:51 pm

Taxingperson wrote:I am not scared of women - just being in a relationship with them because that is not very pleasant in my experience and once you have had a very negative experience it is natural to have a fear of what gave you that experience.


it's not natural to the extent you fear them.

Taxingperson wrote:There are lots of things I am not scared of that would terrify the S*** out of others I know (public speaking for example).


that's good :D

Taxingperson wrote:Are you seriously saying that you are completely confident about everything because if you are, I don't believe you.


am i seriously saying? where did i talk about me? i just observed that you are very anxious about a lot of things. don't know how you construct anything else and about me out of that. i didn't say anything about me.
my observation isn't a put-down, i don't think statitng things one sees and being honest about them should be understood as negative criticism. everyone has fears but i think you are a bit more fearful than the general population when it comes to relationships and the like.

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Postby Now_Registered on Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:49 am

Taxingperson wrote:
Now_Registered wrote:I have actually never wanted kids.....As far back as I can remember, I never wanted kids...I just wanted a nice wife, and a healthy prosperous life with her....kids were never part of that vision.


That's how I feel :D but its not what a lot of women want :(


A lot of women do indeed want kids, TP, that is for sure. But there are growing numbers of women that don't want children, for whatever reason. If I find the right woman, great...I am going to love her and worship her. If I don't, I hope to have some fun looking for her!

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Postby Taxingperson on Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:38 pm

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Taxingperson wrote:
Now_Registered wrote:I have actually never wanted kids.....As far back as I can remember, I never wanted kids...I just wanted a nice wife, and a healthy prosperous life with her....kids were never part of that vision.


That's how I feel :D but its not what a lot of women want :(


A lot of women do indeed want kids, TP, that is for sure. But there are growing numbers of women that don't want children, for whatever reason. If I find the right woman, great...I am going to love her and worship her. If I don't, I hope to have some fun looking for her!


Well, have fun :D . However, looking for someone and finding someone who thinks you are perfect for them but who is not perfect for you isn't fun - its very very stressful.

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Re: anyone NOT want children?

Postby emmab2 on Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:42 pm

it's not for me wrote:Are there any women (or indeed men) on here who actually hate the idea of having children? The idea of being pregnant repulses me, but the idea of having a child of my own repulses me even more. I'm nearly 30 and don't really feel as though I fit in with my friends. I would love to get married, but I'm worried that I will put guys off when I tell them I don't want and will never want kids.


I'm 28 and can't bear the thought of having children. I wouldn't say pregnancy repulses me but the stress and responsibility that goes with raising children is really scary :yikes:

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Postby sally on Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:01 pm

I hated every minute of being pregnant...really hated it. Would't go through it again if i was paid. I also can't stand crying babies :x (why did I ever have kids)

Now they are 7 and 4 and I like this age as you can actually have a conversation with them......and fun :lol:
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Postby Taxingperson on Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:21 pm

sally2006 wrote:I hated every minute of being pregnant...really hated it. Would't go through it again if i was paid. I also can't stand crying babies :x (why did I ever have kids)

Now they are 7 and 4 and I like this age as you can actually have a conversation with them......and fun :lol:


It'll all change when they hit the terrible teenage years :lol: Basically, they are crap for the first four years because they are always crying and puking. Then they are OK for a few years until they hit their teens and then its all crap again. Shame you can't just hire them between the ages of 4 and 11 :lol:

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Postby sally on Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:41 pm

Yeah I know. And if I'm really horrible to them they will pick a crap nursing home.

Any way you look I'm fu cked :?
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Postby Professional Cynic on Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:23 am

. wrote:[You're right about that. Someone mentioned that old ladies don't have anyone to love them. That's what a lover is for. Having kids so you can make sure someone keeps you happy in old age is the wrong reason to have children. Also a parent is looking at least an 18yr committment of raising a child. Not only do you need the right amount of money, you have to provide a shelter, love, and enough morals to make that a child a decent human being. A person's whole life changes when having a kid and excuse me, but some people rather not oblige themselves to this kind of arduous labor.] quote



Can see where you're coming from. Its just that I've seen plenty of cases where the aged have either lost their partner or their lover ran off. You see these ppl so unhappy in elderly homes and in hospitals. Having a child just for some comfort in old-age obviously is'nt a good enough case. But its something that most ppl just feel naturally inclined to do at some point in their life. Bringing them up takes patience and a whole lot more, but I guess this arduos labor does'nt set back those who want this certain kind of change. Its a matter of choice. :lol:


I've seen plenty of cases where the aged have either lost their partner or their lover ran off. You see these people so unhappy in elderly homes and in hospitals.

And their kids NEVER visit them.

I DO speak from experience. We had to put my mother into a nursing home for the last six months of her life. For various reasons, my other relatives and I chose a hospital 225 miles from where I live. I got a laptop and worked on the road, gave up my "fun weekends", and spent a good two days a week visiting her. Every week, unless I was sick. My fiance usually came too. I only wish I could've been there every damned day.

Soon, I found that I was one of the precious few who even bothered. I became a "surrogate guest" for my Mom's sweet roommate Esther and always greeted the other ladies and gents. The staff was stunned by me--and by my cousins too I might mention, who also came frequently.

I was shocked that folks who lived a ten minute drive away never hardly ever came to visit THEIR OWN DAMNED PARENTS. But I did already know about that sort of thing. My dad was an LVN for some years when I was little, working exclusively in nursing homes. It embittered him greatly and he made me promise fifty million times not to ever put him in "one of those places." You can imagine how much I hated doing that to my mother, but I was not her legal guardian/executor so I made the best of it.

Anyway...sorry...back to the point. Having kids is NO guarantee there'll be anyone to love you, take care of you, etc., when you are old. Sure, it helps. And I know many people are very loyal and attentive to their parents and grandparents. (Probably a high percentage of those are the ones whose parents raised them right, with tons of love, respect, kindness and good discipline/structure...)

But just remember. No guarantees, folks. MAKE FRIENDS. Not just love relationships. FRIENDS!!! Networks of loving, supportive friends. Hey, your kids can all play together too! :wink:

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:28 am

should i travel the world? or ....

sink my future and money into a screaming bag of S*** ?

difficult decision.

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:25 pm

All you anti-kis people should be grateful your parents didn't have the same attitude :lol:

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:25 pm

. wrote:All you anti-kids people should be grateful your parents didn't have the same attitude :lol:

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:59 pm

One of the biggest fallacies out there is that having children makes people happy. Having kids does not make you happy a lot of the time as there's so much hard work to put in. In the early days, none of the work is remembered by the kids and in the later days, you can feel totally unappreciated for all you've done.

Having children is about self-sacrifice. Yes, that has its rewards but there's pain, exhaustion and lack of money to be considered as well. And don't forget, you'll always love your kids much more than they'll ever love you.

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Postby *Mannifer* on Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:16 pm

. wrote:One of the biggest fallacies out there is that having children makes people happy. Having kids does not make you happy a lot of the time as there's so much hard work to put in. In the early days, none of the work is remembered by the kids and in the later days, you can feel totally unappreciated for all you've done.

Having children is about self-sacrifice. Yes, that has its rewards but there's pain, exhaustion and lack of money to be considered as well. And don't forget, you'll always love your kids much more than they'll ever love you.


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