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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:38 pm

my kids are now grown up.

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:17 pm

*Mannifer* wrote:
. wrote:One of the biggest fallacies out there is that having children makes people happy. Having kids does not make you happy a lot of the time as there's so much hard work to put in. In the early days, none of the work is remembered by the kids and in the later days, you can feel totally unappreciated for all you've done.

Having children is about self-sacrifice. Yes, that has its rewards but there's pain, exhaustion and lack of money to be considered as well. And don't forget, you'll always love your kids much more than they'll ever love you.


I was just curious, are you a parent?


Yup. An honest one.

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Postby Guest on Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:21 pm

. wrote:
*Mannifer* wrote:
. wrote:One of the biggest fallacies out there is that having children makes people happy. Having kids does not make you happy a lot of the time as there's so much hard work to put in. In the early days, none of the work is remembered by the kids and in the later days, you can feel totally unappreciated for all you've done.

Having children is about self-sacrifice. Yes, that has its rewards but there's pain, exhaustion and lack of money to be considered as well. And don't forget, you'll always love your kids much more than they'll ever love you.


I was just curious, are you a parent?


Yup. An honest one.


It sounds like some or all of your kids have left the nest? Are you a grandparent yet, and if so, do any of your grandkids live nearby?

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Postby Guest on Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:56 pm

Why does it repulse you so?

HA!

As for survival of the species, personally I couldn't care less. It's not like we're doing the planet any favors, really, is it? Here in the UK we are massively over-populated. More people = bigger problem.

If only my wife agreed :-(

I have attempted to weigh up the cases for and against. My view is that on paper you'd have to be a complete nut do even consider having kids. Other people's kids annoy me.

Against

Major inconvenience
Immense Cost
Huge Responsibility (Burden)
Mess
Loss of Piece and Quiet (something I personally hold dear!)
Appropriate schooling
Loss of Personal Space and Freedom
Noise
Liberal leftism / do-gooders - Victorian values would be better.

For

Putting partner first (despite personal views)
Partner happier (in theory)

I really sympathise with those who do not want kids. I wish the whole tiresome issue would go away....................



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. wrote:Why does it repulse you so? What about adopting?


Because when it comes down to, what good reason does people have for having children besides carrying out reproduction as a basic survival of the human species. I don't want kids anytime soon, and I don't think I will ever have them. It's good to see more women feeling this way instead of being pressured into becoming baby making machines.

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Postby Guest on Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:00 pm

I know that pressure well and am resentful of it...


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. wrote:
. wrote:Why does it repulse you so? What about adopting?


Because when it comes down to, what good reason does people have for having children besides carrying out reproduction as a basic survival of the human species. I don't want kids anytime soon, and I don't think I will ever have them. It's good to see more women feeling this way instead of being pressured into becoming baby making machines.


Exactly! It's not just the whole pregnancy/birth that I think looks hideous, it's actually having to give my quiet life up to have kids. I feel pressured into having them and it annoys the hell out of me.

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Postby Guest on Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:03 pm

1, 5, 6 = yes

. wrote:You should not have children:
1) If you don't like children,
2) If you can't care for them,
3) Ifyou can't provide for them,
4) If you can't offer them any opportunities don't bring them into life to suffer,
5) If you don't have patience,
6) If you don't like child responsibilities.

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Postby Guest on Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:04 pm

How pathetic

. wrote:
. wrote:

Because when it comes down to, what good reason does people have for having children besides carrying out reproduction as a basic survival of the human species. I don't want kids anytime soon, and I don't think I will ever have them. It's good to see more women feeling this way instead of being pressured into becoming baby making machines.



Isn't a woman is main function to reproduce children?

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Postby Winky89 on Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:07 pm

I dont want children until I've sorted my career out and am in a stable relationship of at least 2 years with the man of my dreams who is willing to spend as much time at home as at work.

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Re: anyone NOT want children?

Postby Guest on Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:08 pm

Same case here... I'm also male. My life is quite full enough. I prize what peace and quiet we are afforded in this world.


Male Guest wrote:
it's not for me wrote:Are there any women (or indeed men) on here who actually hate the idea of having children? The idea of being pregnant repulses me, but the idea of having a child of my own repulses me even more. I'm nearly 30 and don't really feel as though I fit in with my friends. I would love to get married, but I'm worried that I will put guys off when I tell them I don't want and will never want kids.


There are guys who don't want children too (yes I am one). Having children is a huge financial and emotional committment that is not for everyone and in this day and age is, and indeed should be, a matter of personal choice. I am quite fulfilled in my life in most ways through my work and through doing the things I enjoy. It may be selfish of me but I don't want to give that up for something that I have never aspired to. It does seem to freak out women though that it is possible not to want kids.

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Postby Guest on Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:11 pm

You have the opposite problem to me...


Mr X wrote:Hi,

I am in the horrible position of being in love with a girl who doesn't want children. I would love to have at least 2. We talked about this quite early in the relationship and agreed to have one but deep down I felt she didn't really want to. She now says the thought horrifies her. What should a guy do in this situation????

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Postby Guest on Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:13 pm

That would be more understandable!

. wrote:It's a pretty basic thing - it's not like he is demanding kinky sex or something.

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Postby Guest on Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:16 pm

Annoying, isn't it... As if we care!

They also like to advertise their choice by placing those ridiculous "baby on board" signs in the windows of their cars... So what? Does that give you the right to inconvenience me more than everyone else? No!

. wrote:People who have children lose all sense of the outside world and become so boring. All they do is go on and on and on about how their little precious threw up or shat itself....awww how cute (I think not). I never ever want to become one of those people.

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Postby Guest on Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:17 pm

Become irritating more like

. wrote:People who have children become complete. They are in touch with their feelings. They are able to fully function as compassionate, empathic beings. By having children they come face to face with who they are. Like it or not, having children is natural.

As far as boredom is concerned, what is more boring than listening to someone talking endlessly about how wonderful they are? At least people with children are able to focus on something other than themselves.

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Postby Winky89 on Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:04 pm

is that a chip I see on your shoulder Tys?

There are enough unwanted children in the world without me popping out 1 or 2 more :roll:

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Postby THAT_GUEST on Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:03 am

I won't be having kids. Thank god that vasectomy is covered under insurance.
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