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Postby Guest on Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:45 am

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. wrote:You should not have children:
1) If you don't like children,
2) If you can't care for them,
3) If you can't provide for them,
4) If you can't offer them any opportunities don't bring them into life to suffer,
5) If you don't have patience,
6) If you don't like child responsibilities.
7) If you don't like yourself or insecure about yourself don't breed.


What about if I get pregnant by accident? Do you think that having an abortion would make me like myself more?

And where does the father's rights come into all this? Suppose the father of the unborn child answers "No" to all of the above questions - would that give him a right to care for his child?


The burden of pregancy is on the woman she should have the final say so if she wants to carry that baby or not.

1) A woman can die from giving birth
2) A woman can gain serioius health problems while with child
3) Some women aren't fit to carry out a full pregnancy because they have a preexisting illnes or condition that would be unhealthy for the baby and themselves

Taking in all these factors, the only rights a father should have is if the woman has the baby and they are deciding how custody should be shared.


Another point to make is when a couple lies together they both have to take responsiblity of a pregnancy, IF the woman decides to have a child. IF he doesn't want the child and she decides she doesn't then it works out for the both of them. If he doesn't and she does, then it's tough for him. He's going to have to accept the reponsibility.


EXACTLY. It is HER choice. NOT some commentator on a message forum. It is not up to YOU or ME to decide whether someone else is fit enough or worthy enough to have a child.

If a woman chooses to have a child for the benefit of her partner or her partner's parents or even her own parents then that is HER choice.


It is up up to YOU and ME and some commentator on a message forum to decide if she is fit enough or worthy enough to have a child if the tax payer is financing the b*****.

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Postby Guest on Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:13 pm

. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:
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. wrote:You should not have children:
1) If you don't like children,
2) If you can't care for them,
3) If you can't provide for them,
4) If you can't offer them any opportunities don't bring them into life to suffer,
5) If you don't have patience,
6) If you don't like child responsibilities.
7) If you don't like yourself or insecure about yourself don't breed.


What about if I get pregnant by accident? Do you think that having an abortion would make me like myself more?

And where does the father's rights come into all this? Suppose the father of the unborn child answers "No" to all of the above questions - would that give him a right to care for his child?


The burden of pregancy is on the woman she should have the final say so if she wants to carry that baby or not.

1) A woman can die from giving birth
2) A woman can gain serioius health problems while with child
3) Some women aren't fit to carry out a full pregnancy because they have a preexisting illnes or condition that would be unhealthy for the baby and themselves

Taking in all these factors, the only rights a father should have is if the woman has the baby and they are deciding how custody should be shared.


Another point to make is when a couple lies together they both have to take responsiblity of a pregnancy, IF the woman decides to have a child. IF he doesn't want the child and she decides she doesn't then it works out for the both of them. If he doesn't and she does, then it's tough for him. He's going to have to accept the reponsibility.


EXACTLY. It is HER choice. NOT some commentator on a message forum. It is not up to YOU or ME to decide whether someone else is fit enough or worthy enough to have a child.

If a woman chooses to have a child for the benefit of her partner or her partner's parents or even her own parents then that is HER choice.


It is up up to YOU and ME and some commentator on a message forum to decide if she is fit enough or worthy enough to have a child if the tax payer is financing the b*****.


would you say the same about a needed back surgery? or someone who had cancer?

depending on where you live, the government decides who gets free aid, not some taxpayer with a chip on his shoulder. The government provides enough rules to make sure that people who do get free assisstance is under the guidelines. For several decades the government has worked to make sure the laws are fair for everyone. So rather a pregnant woman needs welfare or an abortion it's all good for her.

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Postby Guest on Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:35 pm

. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:You should not have children:
1) If you don't like children,
2) If you can't care for them,
3) If you can't provide for them,
4) If you can't offer them any opportunities don't bring them into life to suffer,
5) If you don't have patience,
6) If you don't like child responsibilities.
7) If you don't like yourself or insecure about yourself don't breed.


What about if I get pregnant by accident? Do you think that having an abortion would make me like myself more?

And where does the father's rights come into all this? Suppose the father of the unborn child answers "No" to all of the above questions - would that give him a right to care for his child?


The burden of pregancy is on the woman she should have the final say so if she wants to carry that baby or not.

1) A woman can die from giving birth
2) A woman can gain serioius health problems while with child
3) Some women aren't fit to carry out a full pregnancy because they have a preexisting illnes or condition that would be unhealthy for the baby and themselves

Taking in all these factors, the only rights a father should have is if the woman has the baby and they are deciding how custody should be shared.


Another point to make is when a couple lies together they both have to take responsiblity of a pregnancy, IF the woman decides to have a child. IF he doesn't want the child and she decides she doesn't then it works out for the both of them. If he doesn't and she does, then it's tough for him. He's going to have to accept the reponsibility.


EXACTLY. It is HER choice. NOT some commentator on a message forum. It is not up to YOU or ME to decide whether someone else is fit enough or worthy enough to have a child.

If a woman chooses to have a child for the benefit of her partner or her partner's parents or even her own parents then that is HER choice.


It is up up to YOU and ME and some commentator on a message forum to decide if she is fit enough or worthy enough to have a child if the tax payer is financing the b*****.


Maybe the b***** will be financing YOU one day or wiping your bum when you are lying helpless in a nursing home. YOU are not beyond human weakness and frailty. It may happen to you one day. Then what will you expect from society?

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Postby Hammie366 on Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:20 pm

I do not want children either, never have done. I'm 33 now and have no intention of getting married or having any children, god just the thought.
Years ago it would be men running a mile if it was mentioned, today it would be me.
I am quite happy spoiling other peoples children. My family want me to have some but why, they have enough for me not to have them.
The people i feel sorry for are the women who do want children but for some reason can't.

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Postby tamachant on Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:30 am

I wouldnt mind having a child, but personally feel that is too expensive here and I would be scared to bring a child into the world, most kids here are exposed to drugs by 11 or 12 - I just dont know if I would be a good enough parent and how do you protect your child from the evils in the world today
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Postby Lena on Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:17 pm

tamachant wrote:I wouldnt mind having a child, but personally feel that is too expensive here and I would be scared to bring a child into the world, most kids here are exposed to drugs by 11 or 12 - I just dont know if I would be a good enough parent and how do you protect your child from the evils in the world today
Tam don't worry . I see you as a great mother. Maybe cooking diner over an open fire on the beach as your man teaches the little one how to surf .The suns setting over the ocean and life feels so good ...................
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Postby Mr X on Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:10 pm

Hi,

I am in the horrible position of being in love with a girl who doesn't want children. I would love to have at least 2. We talked about this quite early in the relationship and agreed to have one but deep down I felt she didn't really want to. She now says the thought horrifies her. What should a guy do in this situation????

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Postby The-Prophet on Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:20 pm

either stay and hope she'll change her mind OR move on

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Re: Children

Postby ali_mon_x on Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:10 pm

Mr X wrote:Hi,

I am in the horrible position of being in love with a girl who doesn't want children. I would love to have at least 2. We talked about this quite early in the relationship and agreed to have one but deep down I felt she didn't really want to. She now says the thought horrifies her. What should a guy do in this situation????


You could find someone who wants children, but you should love a woman for what she is, not for what she can give you.

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Postby TipsyDipsy on Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:23 am

Mr X wrote:Hi,

I am in the horrible position of being in love with a girl who doesn't want children. I would love to have at least 2. We talked about this quite early in the relationship and agreed to have one but deep down I felt she didn't really want to. She now says the thought horrifies her. What should a guy do in this situation????


When you say you agreed to have one did you mean you wanted one now? Because speaking as a women I wanted to feel completely secure in my relationship before having kids and that meant my boyfriend waiting 7 yrs then marrying me first.
The way many women see it is if everything falls apart in the relationship we're the ones usually left on our own (or at least having most of the responsibility) of raising any children.
I wouldn't feel comfortable with a boyfriend who talked about having kids so soon into the relationship without showing any other sign of commitment to be honest.
I know I sound old fashioned but I think perhaps its how your girlfriends feeling.

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Postby stephie1610 on Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:18 pm

I'm 20 years old and have always loved kids and wish to have kids of my own when I settle down. It's never not occured to me not to have children as I love them so much... I think it is a special and sacred experience to go through. Having a pregnancy scare this week though I would have not been ready in the slightest to have had the child. Still at uni and wanting to live my life before any of the responsibilities of parenthood descend on me!

I can totally appreciate women not wanting to have kids and think it is within their rights to say so. With so many more opportunities for women now than 20years ago we are spoilt for choice on when, where and how we have our children, if we do at all! I think when a person feels they are not ready for a responsibilty of looking after and shaping another person's life then they have the right to refuse.

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Postby swee on Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:24 pm

Mr X wrote:Hi,

I am in the horrible position of being in love with a girl who doesn't want children. I would love to have at least 2. We talked about this quite early in the relationship and agreed to have one but deep down I felt she didn't really want to. She now says the thought horrifies her. What should a guy do in this situation????


Why do you want children? (playing devil's advocate)
"...and he causes all, both great and small, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark" (Rev.13)

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:56 am

Huh? What's wrong with Mr. X wanting to have children? It's a pretty basic thing - it's not like he is demanding kinky sex or something.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:45 am

. wrote:Huh? What's wrong with Mr. X wanting to have children? It's a pretty basic thing - it's not like he is demanding kinky sex or something.


Aint you heard? This is topsy turvy world where normal is abnormal and abnormal is normal. The worst sin here is stupidity.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:46 am

People who have children lose all sense of the outside world and become so boring. All they do is go on and on and on about how their little precious threw up or shat itself....awww how cute (I think not). I never ever want to become one of those people.

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