The Colonel wrote:Ivan Diederhoff wrote:Fred (and others like him) don't answer questions for one reason, FEAR! .
Your analysis is quite correct.
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The Colonel wrote:Ivan Diederhoff wrote:Fred (and others like him) don't answer questions for one reason, FEAR! .
Your analysis is quite correct.
The Colonel wrote:[EDIT]

The Colonel wrote:Why can you not simply care for other people?
Why do you have to be so selfish and self-centred all the time?
It's about time you started to realise there are more people on the planet than just you.
Fred75 wrote:The Colonel wrote:Why can you not simply care for other people?
Why do you have to be so selfish and self-centred all the time?
It's about time you started to realise there are more people on the planet than just you.
Your problem is you think forced taxation (social states) is the same as being charitable and caring.
It's not.
Your government plan and atheist agenda removes the example of being personally charitable like the church wants.
So children grow up in your society knowing their taxes are charity and they don't have to give freely.
Which of course teaches each new generation how not to be altruistic by ones self.
So try not to make your position look better by pointing out I say nothing about caring. It's a stupid Liberal trick that only other Liberals fall for. My perceived position by lack of opening up doesn't change the fact that I'm right. Which is proven by the fact that your rebuttal never deals with my opinion. Just my lack of stating that I'm charitable.
Here. Let's make your life extremely difficult.....
I donate 20% of my income to charity through church....
How do you respond now to my opinions of forced charity via taxation?
Fred75 wrote:The Colonel wrote:Ivan Diederhoff wrote:Fred (and others like him) don't answer questions for one reason, FEAR! .
Your analysis is quite correct.
The Colonel wrote:[EDIT]
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The Colonel wrote:Fred75 wrote:The Colonel wrote:Why can you not simply care for other people?
Why do you have to be so selfish and self-centred all the time?
It's about time you started to realise there are more people on the planet than just you.
Your problem is you think forced taxation (social states) is the same as being charitable and caring.
It's not.
Your government plan and atheist agenda removes the example of being personally charitable like the church wants.
So children grow up in your society knowing their taxes are charity and they don't have to give freely.
Which of course teaches each new generation how not to be altruistic by ones self.
So try not to make your position look better by pointing out I say nothing about caring. It's a stupid Liberal trick that only other Liberals fall for. My perceived position by lack of opening up doesn't change the fact that I'm right. Which is proven by the fact that your rebuttal never deals with my opinion. Just my lack of stating that I'm charitable.
Here. Let's make your life extremely difficult.....
I donate 20% of my income to charity through church....
How do you respond now to my opinions of forced charity via taxation?
In direct answer to your question - now you can give that 20% of income to stop young children dying without healthcare. Simple that really. A good moral thing to do.
Do tell me Fred, I support 12 charities, what types do you support?
I support:
A military charity,
An aid charity,
Several health charities,
A homeless charity,
Several childrens charities,
and a gay/bisexual childrens/youth charity.
I expect your charity donations only go to indoctrinating the young into religion? I can tell that by saying you donate through "church". Why not a cheque in the post? I'm on the board of one of the charities I support, how about you?
It is absolute academic fact that atheists are more caring than the religious, and that they represent doctors (such as my wife) who help the sick, and others who work for the poor. This was found by the BMA among others.
The Church of England said the findings were "disappointing". Indeed. It blows their preaching out the window. And yet.....Bishops live in palaces while people starve..........................Hypocricy Fred?
Unlike the religious, atheists know what is right and when to do something. That is why I do what I do. The UK has not seen any "drop" in charitable donations, or any decrease in our concern for others wellbeing. Your example fails to stand up to scrutiny.
If my generation of atheists are breeding uncaring, irresponsible children, perhaps you'd care to explain why my two eldest boys (of their own occord) last christmas were in town, in the freezing cold in the days before christmas collecting for kids that would have nothing on christmas day? For those kids in care, ophans and such like? Why are my boys doing that Fred? What were your kids doing? Sitting on their backsides kicking and screaming about what they DEMAND for christmas? Or praying in a church doing sod all?![]()
You expect a reward up above. I do not. Who is doing it for the benefit of others and who is doing it for selfish reasons?
Fred75 wrote:The Colonel wrote:Fred75 wrote:The Colonel wrote:Why can you not simply care for other people?
Why do you have to be so selfish and self-centred all the time?
It's about time you started to realise there are more people on the planet than just you.
Your problem is you think forced taxation (social states) is the same as being charitable and caring.
It's not.
Your government plan and atheist agenda removes the example of being personally charitable like the church wants.
So children grow up in your society knowing their taxes are charity and they don't have to give freely.
Which of course teaches each new generation how not to be altruistic by ones self.
So try not to make your position look better by pointing out I say nothing about caring. It's a stupid Liberal trick that only other Liberals fall for. My perceived position by lack of opening up doesn't change the fact that I'm right. Which is proven by the fact that your rebuttal never deals with my opinion. Just my lack of stating that I'm charitable.
Here. Let's make your life extremely difficult.....
I donate 20% of my income to charity through church....
How do you respond now to my opinions of forced charity via taxation?
In direct answer to your question - now you can give that 20% of income to stop young children dying without healthcare. Simple that really. A good moral thing to do.
Do tell me Fred, I support 12 charities, what types do you support?
I support:
A military charity,
An aid charity,
Several health charities,
A homeless charity,
Several childrens charities,
and a gay/bisexual childrens/youth charity.
I expect your charity donations only go to indoctrinating the young into religion? I can tell that by saying you donate through "church". Why not a cheque in the post? I'm on the board of one of the charities I support, how about you?
It is absolute academic fact that atheists are more caring than the religious, and that they represent doctors (such as my wife) who help the sick, and others who work for the poor. This was found by the BMA among others.
The Church of England said the findings were "disappointing". Indeed. It blows their preaching out the window. And yet.....Bishops live in palaces while people starve..........................Hypocricy Fred?
Unlike the religious, atheists know what is right and when to do something. That is why I do what I do. The UK has not seen any "drop" in charitable donations, or any decrease in our concern for others wellbeing. Your example fails to stand up to scrutiny.
If my generation of atheists are breeding uncaring, irresponsible children, perhaps you'd care to explain why my two eldest boys (of their own occord) last christmas were in town, in the freezing cold in the days before christmas collecting for kids that would have nothing on christmas day? For those kids in care, ophans and such like? Why are my boys doing that Fred? What were your kids doing? Sitting on their backsides kicking and screaming about what they DEMAND for christmas? Or praying in a church doing sod all?![]()
You expect a reward up above. I do not. Who is doing it for the benefit of others and who is doing it for selfish reasons?
Your a good man.
You do good.
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