Babysitter giving bath

[mum2mum]

Did you wash him every were and check his tesicals for lumps like Robert said his mother had done
The boy I was looking after got very unclean down below when i first started bathing him i pulled back his forskin and it had a lot of like dead skin there it was not very clean at all

I did reply but it didnt get posted. What I replied with was,he is circumcised. Thank goodness for his sake.Smegma can be a serious health issue. I didnt do the inspections myself but instructed him how to under my supervision. I wanted him to become aware of what to look and feel for. As for washing I did and do but that has tapered off a bit.I only get involved when I see there is an issue.

[Tracy D.]

Hi ben12380

I did not mind my mother looking at my private bits I know she ment well. I am sure it is better that your mom looks at your private bits than a babysitter she allso check for lumps in my testicals she said it was the best time to do that just after a bath

Hi Robert B, I got your message and I partially agree that it is best to be checked like you said but I find it more like a task for your family physician than your mother. My mother only checked me for things like that when I was very little. After I reached a certain age like 9 or so and she stopped giving me baths, she left checking those things for my doctor to do.

Men and also boys should, according to doctors, examine their testicles at home once a month. Testicular cancer is more likely in younger men than older men, and its easier to do that exam after a bath. My brother´s doctor always checks his testicles when he goes there. But he doesn´t do the exam himself at home, and we never did it for him either as she never told us he should do it at home. But its a preventive measure that can be taken by parents regarding that particular form of male cancer.

[ben12380]

Hi ben12380

If I was 14 or 15 or even 16 and a male babysitter was looking after me I would think because a female dose not need looking after like a boy dose he would not bath me as you know female genitals are partly self cleaning you do not have a forskin to look after like boys do. And boys do not wash that well. I never had a boy that minded me washing and checking there genitals and as Robert said the testicals can have lumps on them and the sooner they are delt with the better

Hi again June19,
First of all, who told you boys do not wash that well??? Second of all, girls are more vulnerable than boys are as for not needing someone to look after them for instance if an intruder enters the house. Whether or not boys wash well or not like I said before, BOYS PRIVACY NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED JUST AS MUCH AS GIRLS PRIVACY! I find it offensive that you have no regards for the privacy of males you babysit for. I believe I already mentioned that my mother stopped giving me baths when I was 9 years old and left checking my body for my family physician to do because I felt uncomfortable with her seeing me naked. At the age of 12, I started attending residential school and took showers on my own and I never would have let any of the staff who worked there give me baths. If they gave me baths and my mother found out she would have been very angry. Like I said before, I find it OFFENSIVE that you have no regards for the privacy of males. BOYS PRIVACY NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED JUST AS MUCH AS GIRLS PRIVACY!

[ben12380]

Tracy do you or your mother ever examine him down below to see that he is keeping him self clean and would he let you touch it with out being embarrassed boys of 14/15 and even 16 need to be checked

He still is not embarrassed about that, now that he is 14. I often tell him to close the bathroom door when he is peeing, but he doesn´t care much about it.

If you were giving a boy a bath and he purposely peed on you, how would you react?

Ben, I agree with you whole heartedly about checking boys bathing until 16 years of age. I have a 15 year old foster son that I do check when he is bathing himself. Especially at puberty I encourage parents or guardians to check boys hygiene if they become complacent and think a quick wash is adequet.The reason I check is because when I don't check he has a tendency to still have a body odor.Its not because of any hormonal problems.It is sheerly because of laziness! So I remedy it by keeping a very close eye on his bathing habits. I have had to step in from time to time and wash him myself. There is no objections because he understands our agreement,that being, he can do it himself if he shows he is responsible enough.His full blown pubescent state is of no concern to him. Why? I guess he is secure or just passive.

BTW; this is a very educational topic!

[june 19]

Hi ben12380
Girls as a rule do wash them selfs well every were if i was looking after a 15 year old girl and she did not wash properly i would then do it for her. But i have never had to do that. I come from the uk and most boys here have got forskins and they never seem to pull them back when they are bathing

ote="ben12380"]

Tracy do you or your mother ever examine him down below to see that he is keeping him self clean and would he let you touch it with out being embarrassed boys of 14/15 and even 16 need to be checked

He still is not embarrassed about that, now that he is 14. I often tell him to close the bathroom door when he is peeing, but he doesn´t care much about it.

If you were giving a boy a bath and he purposely peed on you, how would you react?

Ben, I agree with you whole heartedly about checking boys bathing until 16 years of age. I have a 15 year old foster son that I do check when he is bathing himself. Especially at puberty I encourage parents or guardians to check boys hygiene if they become complacent and think a quick wash is adequet.The reason I check is because when I don't check he has a tendency to still have a body odor.Its not because of any hormonal problems.It is sheerly because of laziness! So I remedy it by keeping a very close eye on his bathing habits. I have had to step in from time to time and wash him myself. There is no objections because he understands our agreement,that being, he can do it himself if he shows he is responsible enough.His full blown pubescent state is of no concern to him. Why? I guess he is secure or just passive.

BTW; this is a very educational topic!

[ben12380]

June, I understand that you are in the UK where you said most boys have foreskins and I am in the U.S. where most boys are circumcised. In my Orthodox Jewish Community it is a religious rule that all boys are circumcised. Whether or not boys wash well is not the only point, having someone of the opposite gender seeing you naked and washing your genitals can be considered, SEXUAL HARASSMENT and invasion of privacy as I see it. I hope that the day will arrive when you'll be babysitting a boy who refuses to undress in front of you. I wonder if you'll be prepared for that and how you'll react? If you force him to disrobe and he tells his parents and they report you to DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES (DSS) and you lose your opportunity of working in childcare, you might be sorry for what you did. I sure hope that happens since you have no regards for the privacy of boys saying, "oh boys can't wash so that makes it okay for me to invade their privacy and sexually abuse them." Although as you said that so far none of the boys you babysat for minded you invading their privacy, I hope the situation changes soon. If I were still young enough to be babysat for and I had a female babysitter and she attempted to give me a bath, I would go after her with a baseball bat.

[MSH]

There have been several replies by women of the opinion that it's OK for women/girls to bathe young boys. Through my experience, I have a different opinion.

As a 12 year old boy, my older sister, younger brother and I spent a summer at my aunt's farm. She had 4 boys; my twin cousins Kenny and Karl were my age and 2 younger boys. My aunt informed us that she had neither the time nor hot water for individual baths and that every night she showered her 4 boys locker room style with a garden hose. My brother and I would be showered with them. I was rather unsure what all this meant. I was led into a utility room with everyone. I was extremely uncomfortable as I had to strip naked with the other boys in front of my aunt, who then proceeded to spray us with water, gave us soap and shampoo, instructed us to wash our hair, etc. Even my mom hadn't seen me naked for probably 2-3 years at that point.

After a couple of nights, she told us that my sister Donna would assist her by helping with the two youngest boys. It was extremely embarrassing for me (and the other older boys) to take our clothes off and be naked in front of my sister. None of us boys had any pubic hair yet. We all had erections at various times throughout these showers. As a 12 year old boy, it was totally humiliating to have my erect penis pointing straight at my older sister.

There seems to be a philosophy among many women that pre-pubescent boys are not allowed any privacy.

[Tracy D.]

As a 12 year old boy, my older sister, younger brother and I spent a summer at my aunt's farm. She had 4 boys; my twin cousins Kenny and Karl were my age and 2 younger boys. My aunt informed us that she had neither the time nor hot water for individual baths and that every night she showered her 4 boys locker room style with a garden hose. My brother and I would be showered with them. I was rather unsure what all this meant. I was led into a utility room with everyone. I was extremely uncomfortable as I had to strip naked with the other boys in front of my aunt, who then proceeded to spray us with water, gave us soap and shampoo, instructed us to wash our hair, etc. Even my mom hadn't seen me naked for probably 2-3 years at that point.

After a couple of nights, she told us that my sister Donna would assist her by helping with the two youngest boys. It was extremely embarrassing for me (and the other older boys) to take our clothes off and be naked in front of my sister. None of us boys had any pubic hair yet. We all had erections at various times throughout these showers. As a 12 year old boy, it was totally humiliating to have my erect penis pointing straight at my older sister.

Your aunt was just treating you the same as her sons.
How old was your older sister?
Was it still embarrassing for you to be naked in front of your aunt or your sister after the first two or three times or did you quickly get used to it?
Do you know if your sister was at first embarrassed with being in the room while you and your cousins where showering?
Did your cousins quickly get used to be naked in front of your sister?

[gewoon]

As a 12 year old boy, my older sister, younger brother and I spent a summer at my aunt's farm. She had 4 boys; my twin cousins Kenny and Karl were my age and 2 younger boys. My aunt informed us that she had neither the time nor hot water for individual baths and that every night she showered her 4 boys locker room style with a garden hose. My brother and I would be showered with them. I was rather unsure what all this meant. I was led into a utility room with everyone. I was extremely uncomfortable as I had to strip naked with the other boys in front of my aunt, who then proceeded to spray us with water, gave us soap and shampoo, instructed us to wash our hair, etc. Even my mom hadn't seen me naked for probably 2-3 years at that point.

After a couple of nights, she told us that my sister Donna would assist her by helping with the two youngest boys. It was extremely embarrassing for me (and the other older boys) to take our clothes off and be naked in front of my sister. None of us boys had any pubic hair yet. We all had erections at various times throughout these showers. As a 12 year old boy, it was totally humiliating to have my erect penis pointing straight at my older sister.

Your aunt was just treating you the same as her sons.
How old was your older sister?
Was it still embarrassing for you to be naked in front of your aunt or your sister after the first two or three times or did you quickly get used to it?
Do you know if your sister was at first embarrassed with being in the room while you and your cousins where showering?
Did your cousins quickly get used to be naked in front of your sister?

You can better ask why didn't get ur sister and ur aunt naked it seemed normal to them so why didn't they took off there clothes? they to embarresed to showed their pussy?

[ben12380]

As a 12 year old boy, my older sister, younger brother and I spent a summer at my aunt's farm. She had 4 boys; my twin cousins Kenny and Karl were my age and 2 younger boys. My aunt informed us that she had neither the time nor hot water for individual baths and that every night she showered her 4 boys locker room style with a garden hose. My brother and I would be showered with them. I was rather unsure what all this meant. I was led into a utility room with everyone. I was extremely uncomfortable as I had to strip naked with the other boys in front of my aunt, who then proceeded to spray us with water, gave us soap and shampoo, instructed us to wash our hair, etc. Even my mom hadn't seen me naked for probably 2-3 years at that point.

After a couple of nights, she told us that my sister Donna would assist her by helping with the two youngest boys. It was extremely embarrassing for me (and the other older boys) to take our clothes off and be naked in front of my sister. None of us boys had any pubic hair yet. We all had erections at various times throughout these showers. As a 12 year old boy, it was totally humiliating to have my erect penis pointing straight at my older sister.

Your aunt was just treating you the same as her sons.
How old was your older sister?
Was it still embarrassing for you to be naked in front of your aunt or your sister after the first two or three times or did you quickly get used to it?
Do you know if your sister was at first embarrassed with being in the room while you and your cousins where showering?
Did your cousins quickly get used to be naked in front of your sister?

Tracy, a number of you females are sexist pigs saying, "boys can't wash," whether or not it's true. That is not the only point. No matter how well or poorly boys wash, their privacy needs to be respected just as much as girls privacy. There might be some boys who would rather be diagnosed with testicular cancer than let a girl see them naked and wash their genitals. There was even a time when I had my yearly physical with my doctor and the doctor did not bother to check my testicles. It wasn't until the following year when I went for my next check-up that I asked for a testicle exam and if I didn't, I'll bet she wouldn't have done it again either. I am not sure if you saw my most recent message for June19 about my hopes of her losing her opportunities of working in childcare if she forced a boy to disrobe in front of her if he refused. What is your opinion of my mother stopping to give me baths or even check in on me at the age of 9? She never saw me naked after that either from what I remember. When I was 12, I started going to residential school where I showered on my own and I never would have let the female staff who worked there give me a bath and if they did and my mother found out, she would've been very angry. I would just like to know why you females have no regards for the privacy of males and it doesn't matter how well they wash.

[The Colonel]

I am slightly concerned at this thread.

I have read one issue that I feel I need to comment on, regarding Ben’s comment about sexual harassment.

Under UK law, what is described here would be considered sexual harassment, and if you touch him, or force him, it becomes sexual assault.

Further, making him strip against his will, bearing in mind you are not the parents or legal guardian of the child, could make you guilty of degrading treatment. (See Tyler V UK (1976).) This is illegal under the European Convention on Human Rights as incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act (1998).

You could also be charged with breach of trust in a position of responsibility, and further if the child is 16 or above then you are committing an offence on someone who has the right of refusal in his own right. (Breaching his human rights). If they are under 16, you are committing an offence on a minor, which may well lead to you being placed on the Sexual Offenders Register.

I speak as a retired British Lieutenant Colonel, and a Justice of the Peace. (Magistrate).

So, you leave the child alone, and leave the issue to their parents. End of.

[MSH]

Your aunt was just treating you the same as her sons.
How old was your older sister?
Was it still embarrassing for you to be naked in front of your aunt or your sister after the first two or three times or did you quickly get used to it?
Do you know if your sister was at first embarrassed with being in the room while you and your cousins where showering?
Did your cousins quickly get used to be naked in front of your sister?

My sister was 15, my male cousins and I just turned 12.

It was very embarrassing for me everytime I was naked in front of my sister. I did not get used to it and I don't think the cousins did either, although they were certainly used to being naked in front of their mom.

I don't really know how Donna felt about it. We never did discuss it.

[Tracy D.]

Tracy, a number of you females are sexist pigs saying, "boys can't wash," whether or not it's true. That is not the only point. No matter how well or poorly boys wash, their privacy needs to be respected just as much as girls privacy. There might be some boys who would rather be diagnosed with testicular cancer than let a girl see them naked and wash their genitals. There was even a time when I had my yearly physical with my doctor and the doctor did not bother to check my testicles. It wasn't until the following year when I went for my next check-up that I asked for a testicle exam and if I didn't, I'll bet she wouldn't have done it again either. I am not sure if you saw my most recent message for June19 about my hopes of her losing her opportunities of working in childcare if she forced a boy to disrobe in front of her if he refused. What is your opinion of my mother stopping to give me baths or even check in on me at the age of 9? She never saw me naked after that either from what I remember. When I was 12, I started going to residential school where I showered on my own and I never would have let the female staff who worked there give me a bath and if they did and my mother found out, she would've been very angry. I would just like to know why you females have no regards for the privacy of males and it doesn't matter how well they wash.

If at the age of 9 you were already careful enough to wash properly by yourself then your mother did the right thing in letting you shower alone. But if you were not yet careful enough then she should have continued to be present while you were showering until you were mature enough to do it by yourself. Its important for boys and girls to learn proper hygien. I can´t see no reason for a pre pubescent boy to be embarrassed with being naked in front of his mother. As long as the mother is needed, she should be present while the boy washes and he shouldn´t be embarrassed about it. Most pre pubescent boys aren´t embarrassed with their mother being in the bathroom while they shower. Boys privacy should be respected and force a boy to undress in front of an unknown woman would be a violation of his privacy. Undressing in front of his mother is not violation of his privacy and most boys don´t see it as such.

[Tracy D.]

My sister was 15, my male cousins and I just turned 12.

It was very embarrassing for me everytime I was naked in front of my sister. I did not get used to it and I don't think the cousins did either, although they were certainly used to being naked in front of their mom.

I don't really know how Donna felt about it. We never did discuss it.

If she was older, like 17 or 18, it could have been easier for you to get used to it. At 15 she was too close to your age.
What about you aunt, were you as embarrassed with being naked in front of her as you were with being naked in front of your sister? Her being much older than your sister made it easier to be naked in front of her?

[Guest]

I am slightly concerned at this thread.

I have read one issue that I feel I need to comment on, regarding Ben’s comment about sexual harassment.

Under UK law, what is described here would be considered sexual harassment, and if you touch him, or force him, it becomes sexual assault.

Further, making him strip against his will, bearing in mind you are not the parents or legal guardian of the child, could make you guilty of degrading treatment. (See Tyler V UK (1976).) This is illegal under the European Convention on Human Rights as incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act (1998).

You could also be charged with breach of trust in a position of responsibility, and further if the child is 16 or above then you are committing an offence on someone who has the right of refusal in his own right. (Breaching his human rights). If they are under 16, you are committing an offence on a minor, which may well lead to you being placed on the Sexual Offenders Register.

I speak as a retired British Lieutenant Colonel, and a Justice of the Peace. (Magistrate).

So, you leave the child alone, and leave the issue to their parents. End of.

notice how the pervs ignore you colonel