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Re: Cousin washing you

Postby Rob...G on Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:51 pm

Former babysitter wrote:Rob..
What did she say and what did you say when you ejaculated? Do you think that was the first time she saw that happen? Did she ever bathe you again? Did you ever talk to her about it outside of the babysitting circumstances? I must admit that I have been fascinated by these things ever since I was a teenager.


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She acted as if it were her first time ever seeing a boy ejaculate. She had told me later that she was going to try to babysit me more often. She was watching me at least 3 times a week after that and she even got in the bath with me a few times. I think back about those time and I don't know if it's right but I get a little excited. Is it right for me to feel that way?

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cousing bathing you

Postby Former babysitter on Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:11 pm

Not at all. Your cousin made you feel good. Of course you're going to get excited thinking about it. I used to get excited thinking about the erections I caused even though I didn't do it on purpose. Have you ever discussed these things with her at social gatherings etc? does she ever think about what those baths?

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Re: cousing bathing you

Postby Rob...G on Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:26 pm

Former babysitter wrote:Not at all. Your cousin made you feel good. Of course you're going to get excited thinking about it. I used to get excited thinking about the erections I caused even though I didn't do it on purpose. Have you ever discussed these things with her at social gatherings etc? does she ever think about what those baths?


Former babysitter,

She thinks about it alot also.She told me she got real excited thinking of it one night and didn't know if that was normal, and I told her it was to relax her. My family has always had a little nudist in it.lol. I still think of my mother giving me baths and when she would wash with me. I remember as a young boy thinking how beautifull she was in the nude. She had large aeriolas and I was always curious. I would have full erections anytime either one of them gave me a bath. Never knew if it was normal to think of my mother like that, but it was exciting.Did you ever strip down to make any of the boys feel relaxed?

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Re: vacation

Postby Michelle R. on Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:53 pm

Rob...G wrote:Michelle R.
So did you never go swiming naked with them?What are the ages of the children? Thank you for your response on the ocation when I was 12 and had an orgasm.I had a babysitter that stripped once to make me more relaxed and no sooner does she get in the tub with me and start washing me, I have an orgasm.The slightest touch would do it.[/b]

No, I never went swimming naked with them. I'm not a nudist, so I felt uncomfortable with the concept. The daughter and I did change together on a few occasions, so she saw me naked, but that was all. The oldest son turned 12 during the trip, the middle kid is the daughter at 10 and a half and the younger boy is 8. I give them their baths when I sit for them so they are used to being naked in front of me, but I had never seen them all naked in front of each other before.

I certainly wouldn't strip to make a boy feel more relaxed. In fact, given how frequently they get erections, I think it would make them more excited. I just try not to draw any attention to it when they get like that and to try to make them understand they aren't doing anything wrong when it happens. One thing that amazes me is how few parents seem to discuss sex ed with their kids. I don't believe in answering all of a kid's questions, as it should be left to the parent or school to do the comprehensive teaching. But several boys and girls I have sat for and bathed have had lots of questions over the years...

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Postby Kimmy P. on Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:09 pm

Oh, I read that one. I pretty much agree with Michele's comment on that, I don't think it was right. That was unnecessary. But a child being clean is necessary, so if the parents say the child needs help then that should be no problem. (Again, assuming it isn't in front of a bunch of girls or some strange case like that.)

male observer wrote:kimmy, the complaints aren't about the babysitter, they're about boys who in many cases aren't allowed any privacy and unnecessarily have to be naked in front of girls. read the post about the 12 year old boy who along with 5 other boys had to strip naked in front of his older sister

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Postby TJJ on Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:25 pm

This is a pretty interesting post. I never was bathed by a babysitter, but I think I can relate because my sister used to give me my bath. My father died when I was a baby and my mom worked long hours and sometimes night shifts, so my older sister helped raise me for pretty much all my life, and that included her giving me my bath. I guess since she had been doing since I could remember I never had a problem with it. I was also a late bloomer, so I think it was sometime before I was 14 before I started doing it on my own. (She wasn't actually washing me up until the end, just "supervising" as some have said here.) I never had any concerns about my privacy. But when I finally decided I wanted to be alone she was fine with that.

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babysitter giving bath

Postby ben12380 on Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:03 am

Michelle R. wrote:MSH - I think what happened to you was wrong because it sounds like you bathed yourself by this age (you said your mom hadn't seen you naked for a couple years, which implies she was satisfied that you could clean yourself). Therefore, your privacy was indeed violated by this, and compounded by letting your sister see you all of a sudden when she didn't before. Your aunt should have figured out another arrangement.

I agree that some posters or articles have a bias that girls should get privacy and boys shouldn't. My view is that it is case by case, and while I think the "evidence" (what I've read at least) suggests that girls on average mature faster, one shouldn't apply that generalization to all boys. I think it's reasonable that some boys either still need help or don't mind being seen at that age (because I have personal experience to that effect), but I also know boys who are capable at a younger age. The same it true with girls. Each child will desire (and earn) privacy at different times, but from that time it needs to be respected.

Also, I worry more about children being bathed/seen naked by someone of the opposite sex than by parents or babysitters. Parents - nothing they haven't seen before. Babysitter - assuming reasonable age difference, they are being hired by the parents based on experience and trust character to handle the situation appropriately. But siblings should only be involved (in my opinion) if they have since the child was very young. In other words, they are just continuing a role that the younger sibling has become used to. To all of a sudden be exposed naked to a sibling (like you were) sounds very humiliating, and I could easily see her teasing you or you just feeling uncomfortable in the future because she got to take a peak at something she otherwise wasn't allowed to.

MSH wrote:As a 12 year old boy, my older sister, younger brother and I spent a summer at my aunt's farm. She had 4 boys; my twin cousins Kenny and Karl were my age and 2 younger boys. My aunt informed us that she had neither the time nor hot water for individual baths and that every night she showered her 4 boys locker room style with a garden hose. My brother and I would be showered with them. I was rather unsure what all this meant. I was led into a utility room with everyone. I was extremely uncomfortable as I had to strip naked with the other boys in front of my aunt, who then proceeded to spray us with water, gave us soap and shampoo, instructed us to wash our hair, etc. Even my mom hadn't seen me naked for probably 2-3 years at that point.

After a couple of nights, she told us that my sister Donna would assist her by helping with the two youngest boys. It was extremely embarrassing for me (and the other older boys) to take our clothes off and be naked in front of my sister. None of us boys had any pubic hair yet. We all had erections at various times throughout these showers. As a 12 year old boy, it was totally humiliating to have my erect penis pointing straight at my older sister.

There seems to be a philosophy among many women that pre-pubescent boys are not allowed any privacy.

Michelle R, you're a sexist pig saying, "girls should get privacy and boys should not." The fact may be that girls on average usually mature faster than boys but that's besides the point. Regardless of how well or poorly boys wash, their privacy should be respected just as much as girls privacy. I think you ought to get a grip on life and put yourself in someone else's shoes and think about how you would feel in that case. There might be some boys who would rather stay dirty than let a girl give them a bath. From what you said, you obviously don't understand the phrase, "treat others as you would like to be treated."

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Re: babysitter giving bath

Postby Michelle R. on Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:16 am

ben12380 wrote:Michelle R, you're a sexist pig saying, "girls should get privacy and boys should not." The fact may be that girls on average usually mature faster than boys but that's besides the point. Regardless of how well or poorly boys wash, their privacy should be respected just as much as girls privacy. I think you ought to get a grip on life and put yourself in someone else's shoes and think about how you would feel in that case. There might be some boys who would rather stay dirty than let a girl give them a bath. From what you said, you obviously don't understand the phrase, "treat others as you would like to be treated."

Ben - your post doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You clearly cannot read, or at least comprehend any writing longer than a few words. The way in which you quoted me - that's called taking something out of context. What about what I said at the beginning of the sentence you took the quote from? I said, "I agree that some posters or articles have a bias that". What that means is that I agree that some of the people who have posted on this discussion board and also people whose writing I've read elsewhere (and also MSH's aunt, from what I can tell from his posts) have a bias in favor of girls getting privacy and not boys. THOSE people do. I DIDN'T say "I agree that girls should get privacy and boys shouldn't. In fact, my whole point is that MSH's story is an illustration of something that wasn't right. In that same posting and elsewhere I have always said that even if it is true that girls mature faster than boys (I don't know that it has been scientifically proven or anything, just my personal experience suggests it is true to a degree), every child (boy or girl) matures at their own pace and whenever they are interested in and capable of washing themselves they should be allowed to do so in privacy.

So not only did you insult me, but you did it based on a complete misrepresentation/misunderstanding of what I said. I am not a sexist pig, but you are a stupid a$$.

And your whole suggestion that "there might be some boys who would rather stay dirty than let a girl give them a bath" (see, I quoted you in full) is also stupid. You are saying that if a boy is filthy and cannot clean himself (whether he is 5 or 9 or 12), neither his mother nor an experienced female babysitter should be allowed to wash him if he doesn't like it and he should be allowed to stay dirty because of privacy? And if he only wants candy for dinner, or to play with matches, do we allow that too? Privacy to smoke pot in his room if the door is closed? No. That's where parents' rights (the duty to do what's in the child's best interest) trump whatever privacy the child has (which assumes the child has a problem being helped with his or her bath - and if he/she has a problem, well then he/she should start doing it properly by him/herself), and I would argue a good parent should disregard a child's preference to stay dirty. Maybe you didn't have good parents and stayed dirty yourself - they clearly didn't care enough about you to teach you how to read properly!

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Postby Guest on Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:49 am

Woah now

Are you really comparing a child wanting candy for dinner to a 10 year old not wanting a sitter to BATHE him for a night?

Unless he is REALLY ULTRA DIRTY, it can mostly wait a night until his parents get back. He won't die.

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Postby Guest on Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:51 am

OH and another thing...

all this stuff about how it's education and females get to learn about the male anatomy?

So 14/15 year old boys should bathe 8-10 year old girls (including washing the genitals) so they can learn about female anatomy. (NOTE: I am not saying I believe this is true, I am just showing how ridiculous the argument is!)

Michelle R.
 

Postby Michelle R. on Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:20 pm

All I am saying is a babysitter should do what the parents instruct. It's up to them to determine whether their child needs a bath or not. I've never done anything a parent hasn't told me to do. Sometimes parents tell me their kid doesn't need a bath that day, so that's fine. Some parents seem want their kids to bathe or shower every day to instill good habits - that's their choice, and within their authority to determine. Sometimes I've babysat for a weekend or a long weekend - that would mean a kid not have a bath for 2-3 days?

Again, your concern assumes a lot of boys have problems with this. In my experience this has been rare. When boys (or girls) decide they'd rather do it alone then they start doing things properly, at which point they can be alone. That happens at different ages according to the individual child.

As for your point below, I don't agree with that argument nor have I ever proposed it as a reason for babysitting. I won't deny that the first time I started to do this it was a first for me to see a naked boy and interesting (would be for anyone on their first experience), but I've always acted proper about things and haven't used it as an anatomy lesson or anything. So if you want to disagree with what other people may have said that's fine, but please don't ascribe comments to me that I haven't made.
. wrote:OH and another thing...

all this stuff about how it's education and females get to learn about the male anatomy?

So 14/15 year old boys should bathe 8-10 year old girls (including washing the genitals) so they can learn about female anatomy. (NOTE: I am not saying I believe this is true, I am just showing how ridiculous the argument is!)

Michelle R.
 

Postby Michelle R. on Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:26 pm

Also, I don't know where you live. Maybe kids where you are just sit and watch TV all day, but where I live a lot of kids (boys and girls) play outside and do sports pretty much on a daily basis. So actually, it wouldn't be uncommon for me to reply to your comment that in any particular instance when I show up for work where the parents haven't had time to give baths themselves that yes, the child is dirty enough that waiting until the next day would be a little on the disgusting side. (Again, assuming the child objected to my presence, which you can see from past postings by me only happened once that I can recall.)
. wrote:Woah now

Are you really comparing a child wanting candy for dinner to a 10 year old not wanting a sitter to BATHE him for a night?

Unless he is REALLY ULTRA DIRTY, it can mostly wait a night until his parents get back. He won't die.

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