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ben12380 wrote:Michelle R,
You sure were very expressive and made some good points. Normally, I would have apologized for misunderstanding what you said and jumping the gun, except you called me a stupid a$$. To answer to what you said about the assumption of me being abused by a girl as a kid, the oldest I was while being bathed by a babysitter was 5 from what I remember and the thought of privacy did not occur to me at that age. My mother stopped giving me baths when I was about 9 years old and at the age of 12 I started living in a group home where I always showered on my own and if any of the staff who worked in the group home ever gave me baths and my mother found out, she would have been very angry. I believe that when a child is filthy it would be better that he/she take a shower than a bath because while taking a bath you're sitting and soaking in dirty water and all the filth would get in the water which wouldn't make them much cleaner. Girls on average mature faster than boys but there are some cases where it's the other way around but that's off topic. What my suggestion is, if the child is filthy and the parents want you to wash him/her and he/she wants privacy, maybe you can let the child attempt to wash on their own and you should check in on them afterwards and if they didn't do a good job, then you should wash them and show them how to do it right to get privacy from future babysitters. I have little experience babysitting and when I have babysat in the past, I have never had to give a child a bath. Good luck with babysitting!!
Ben
Michelle R. wrote:Well then I can take back the stupid a$$ comment. I just didn't appreciate being called sexist, but here's a tip - never call a lady a pig (no matter what adjective is in front of it)!!!!!!
Your mom stopping her involvement in your baths around 9 certainly sounds like a reasonable age. Did you never have babysitters after the age of 5, or did your mom either wash you before the babysitter came or decide that you were ok without washing for one night? I actually can't really remember growing up if a babysitter ever gave me a bath. My mom was a homemaker, so she took care of it for the most part until she stopped. I may have been 8, but I'm sure she came in the room for at least a couple years after that and I didn't mind. I was a competitive swimmer from a young age so I did take communal showers with the team, which included being in front of the female coaches. While I can't remember babysitters, I do remember one time I went camping with a group of friends and two fathers (not mine) and a bunch of us had slipped into the water and had to strip in front of the fire in front of them to dry off and warm up. That was pretty embarrassing. I can't remember my exact age - maybe 11 or so...
I agree showers are better for a good cleaning. Baths are more common for kids I babysit because sometimes the child's bathroom doesn't have a shower stall, just a tub. Or because of their age/maturity, they prefer to play or slosh around in the tub. In those instances though, the washing and rinsing needs to happen standing up. Sometimes it's a bath but there is a shower hose, so that can be used to rinse. (But those are cases where you don't want an immature child doing it alone because the lack of a curtain means water can be sprayed everywhere.) I live in a community where there are a lot of older houses - in good shape, but not the most modern designs.
I generally do try to start having my charges learn to wash themselves, not because of privacy concerns (which have been very rare) but just to help move that process along. And as I said, sometimes this is helpful and there have been cases where I have suggested to a parent that maybe their child is capable of doing it on their own. But either because of age or maturity some children just do not focus on "getting the job done" and so I continue to play some sort of role. But I have also had times when parents have said the child is starting to do it on their own, so I just go in at the end when he/she says they are done for an inspection. Usually at the beginning of this process there are funny results. For example, I remember one boy had missed a huge amount of dirt on a leg below the knee. When I pointed that out he was surprised, and then confessed that he had pretty much only washed his arms and chest, basically what was above the water line, except for his face - all of which took over 30 minutes!!So yes, I do try to teach children and in some cases they are already trying on their own. But I find I am still often involved in some capacity.
ben12380 wrote:Michelle R,
You sure were very expressive and made some good points. Normally, I would have apologized for misunderstanding what you said and jumping the gun, except you called me a stupid a$$. To answer to what you said about the assumption of me being abused by a girl as a kid, the oldest I was while being bathed by a babysitter was 5 from what I remember and the thought of privacy did not occur to me at that age. My mother stopped giving me baths when I was about 9 years old and at the age of 12 I started living in a group home where I always showered on my own and if any of the staff who worked in the group home ever gave me baths and my mother found out, she would have been very angry. I believe that when a child is filthy it would be better that he/she take a shower than a bath because while taking a bath you're sitting and soaking in dirty water and all the filth would get in the water which wouldn't make them much cleaner. Girls on average mature faster than boys but there are some cases where it's the other way around but that's off topic. What my suggestion is, if the child is filthy and the parents want you to wash him/her and he/she wants privacy, maybe you can let the child attempt to wash on their own and you should check in on them afterwards and if they didn't do a good job, then you should wash them and show them how to do it right to get privacy from future babysitters. I have little experience babysitting and when I have babysat in the past, I have never had to give a child a bath. Good luck with babysitting!!
I also apologize for calling you a sexist pig without bothering to read your post carefully as you pointed out. I am sorry about the misunderstanding. To answer your question about being babysat for after the age of 5, I still got babysat for plenty of times beyond that age, but usually no later than evening time and my mother had almost always returned from work by the time I needed a bath and I also would have felt uncomfortable with a babysitter seeing me naked if I was 7 or older. My parents separated when I was six and got officially divorced when I was 8 but my father didn't stop seeing me naked until I was about 10 years old. From what I remember, I complained to him about that once when I was about to take a bath and I believe it stopped after that. I do have to admit that I had to learn from my mother that once I reached the age of 11 or 12, I was supposed to shower on a daily basis when my mother pointed out that my hair was not being shampooed every day and I told her that I had been doing it weekly and she replied, "once a week is not enough." I believe ever since then, my hygiene had been just fine once I was instructed on how to do it. Although I had no problem washing myself without assistance but neither of my parents had ever taught me to use deodorant so I didn't learn that until I moved into the group home when I was 12. One of the staff noticed my body odor and told me what to do. Maybe I provided too much information but I am usually very specific while explaining things. As for the times I was babysat for, I have had almost as many male babysitters as female and hardly any of the babysitters ever gave me a bath from what I remember except one of them who was a neighbor and had been babysitting for me and my twin brother since we were 8 months old and used to look after us almost every Saturday. I only remember her giving us a bath once though. 27 years have passed since I was 8 months old. I hope I have answered your questions and I wish you the best of luck with your babysitting career. I hope your earnings can help pay for your college education as my family paid for mine.
Ben
Ben
ben12380 wrote:I also apologize for calling you a sexist pig without bothering to read your post carefully as you pointed out. I am sorry about the misunderstanding. To answer your question about being babysat for after the age of 5, I still got babysat for plenty of times beyond that age, but usually no later than evening time and my mother had almost always returned from work by the time I needed a bath and I also would have felt uncomfortable with a babysitter seeing me naked if I was 7 or older. My parents separated when I was six and got officially divorced when I was 8 but my father didn't stop seeing me naked until I was about 10 years old. From what I remember, I complained to him about that once when I was about to take a bath and I believe it stopped after that. I do have to admit that I had to learn from my mother that once I reached the age of 11 or 12, I was supposed to shower on a daily basis when my mother pointed out that my hair was not being shampooed every day and I told her that I had been doing it weekly and she replied, "once a week is not enough." I believe ever since then, my hygiene had been just fine once I was instructed on how to do it. Although I had no problem washing myself without assistance but neither of my parents had ever taught me to use deodorant so I didn't learn that until I moved into the group home when I was 12. One of the staff noticed my body odor and told me what to do. Maybe I provided too much information but I am usually very specific while explaining things. As for the times I was babysat for, I have had almost as many male babysitters as female and hardly any of the babysitters ever gave me a bath from what I remember except one of them who was a neighbor and had been babysitting for me and my twin brother since we were 8 months old and used to look after us almost every Saturday. I only remember her giving us a bath once though. 27 years have passed since I was 8 months old. I hope I have answered your questions and I wish you the best of luck with your babysitting career. I hope your earnings can help pay for your college education as my family paid for mine.
Ben
Former babysitter wrote:Rob...G wrote:Former babysitter wrote:Rob..
What did she say and what did you say when you ejaculated? Do you think that was the first time she saw that happen? Did she ever bathe you again? Did you ever talk to her about it outside of the babysitting circumstances? I must admit that I have been fascinated by these things ever since I was a teenager.
Former babysitter,
Are you still hanging around here?
Yes, I still read these posts every few days. Why?
Rob...G wrote:Former babysitter wrote:Rob...G wrote:Former babysitter wrote:Rob..
What did she say and what did you say when you ejaculated? Do you think that was the first time she saw that happen? Did she ever bathe you again? Did you ever talk to her about it outside of the babysitting circumstances? I must admit that I have been fascinated by these things ever since I was a teenager.
Former babysitter,
Are you still hanging around here?
Yes, I still read these posts every few days. Why?
Former babysitter,
When my mother would give me baths I would get erections when she was bathing with me.....She had very nice breasts (big aeriolas) and even at a young age I noticed things like that. Still to this day I get excited thinking of that.Is that werd or normal?
Former babysitter wrote:I should also mention that my own son often had erections when I bathed him.
Michelle R. wrote:such as the fact that generally children who need some level of assistance with their baths don't see it as an invasion of their privacy (because of their age or personal level of maturity), and that in any event parents' decisions outweigh the preferences of their children in matters such as these. Whether a child would prefer to remain filthy (what a ridiculous concept - I can appreciate the idea of a child being able to skip a bath for a day if he/she is uncomfortable with a new babysitter and this is a one off babysitting occasion, but not letting a child stay "filthy") is irrelevant if the parents say otherwise - which I think they would do if they were decent parents. (I can't recall a parent ever instructing me, "Yes Billy is absolutely filthy, but please don't wash him, I prefer to let him stay filthy.) By the time privacy becomes a concern for a child (which does not happen at a specific age for all children) they have generally learned how to bathe by themselves and therefore don't need help - and if the unusual scenario comes up where a child who wants privacy is still incapable of bathing themself then that's what I'd call strong motivation to learn quickly.
Joan K. wrote:Have you ever been asked by parents to assist a new 10 year old boy, or older, with his bath for the first time even if he didn´t want a girl to assist him and see him naked? How did you deal with the situation? what did you tell him in order for the boy to undress by himself and accept you assisting him in the bath?
The Colonel wrote:Joan K, Alan B, Michelle R.........(and others)
who the hell do you think you are kidding with your troll names?
It is so flaming obvious you are one and the same.
At least make it convincing (not that you can as your posts give it away).
Perverts.
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