can a man be a feminist?

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:04 am

Unhappy Female wrote:For every man who has been disrespected by women there are at least 100 (maybe more) women who have been disrespected by men.


There is a sexist personality in this very topic who would ask where are your studies that prove this. That "personality" is conspicuously silent wiht regards to your statement. Very likely what you call "disrespect" is simply not worshipping a woman because of her sex. You might as well have said a thousand or a gazillion times. Your "fact" is rubbish, pure and simple.

Unhappy Female wrote:Why do you think women became feminists in the first place? They were kept down by men. It was socially acceptable for men to treat women with contempt.
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So feminism was a reaction to this contempt from men.


Acccording to your logic maybe men "disrespect" women because of how women treated men sometime in the past. Ever think of that?

You're just connjuring up reasons to rationalize your malice and ager towards men. Somehow, if a men disprects a woman, it's bad, but some women's contempt of men is justified. That's sexist. If some man treated you badly, hating all men is just as bad as the prejudice some have for other races and religions.

Unhappy Female wrote:I am 40 now but I am still being treated with contempt by my father-in-law. (And he doesn't even know that he is doing anything wrong!!!!)


Perhaps he isn't doing anything wrong, but you just perceive it as wrong because you don't like it. Maybe those men who "disrespect" women had mothers-in-law who treated them with contempt, according to your logic again.

Unhappy Female wrote:When I first started work in the 1980s contempt for women in the work-place was common-place. It was 'normal'. If a woman questioned it or tried to assert herself, she was regarded as a freak.


Sometimes a few women will act uncivil and rude then when someone doesn't like it, she says it's because she's a woman.

Unhappy Female wrote:My life has been completely ruined by this. I cannot feel happy in my role as a mother and house-wife because I was brought up to feel that mother = contempt. (My father treated my mother with contempt.)


I don't doubt that you feel ruined and unhappy. Blaming men for all your problems and shortcomings won't improve yourself.

Unhappy Female (aka Lola) wrote:If GoodGuy's daughters can be brought up to be proud of who they are, why do you want to deny them this?


"Why do you want to deny" out right to disagree with this person's sexism? No one here tried to deny anyone anything. Some of us don't like the sexist disrespect and hatred of he claims he's teaching his daughters. You don't teach pride in oneself by teaching contempt of others. If that's the only way to teach pride, it indicates an existing contempt of ones own self.

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Postby Marcia on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:44 pm

Feminism is a lot of BULLSHIT, women are walking wombs, stupid leeches who want every rights but no duty at all. And feminist men are RETARDS who accept to be treated like crap by women

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:04 am

Marcia wrote:Feminism is a lot of BULLSHIT, women are walking wombs, stupid leeches who want every rights but no duty at all. And feminist men are RETARDS who accept to be treated like crap by women




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sexism in the work place

Postby dothimelright@aol.com on Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:52 pm

I make it my business to select women over men every time I can (in my job as a Government human resources person. I routinely disqualify men for no real reason, just me getting even and installing under qualified women in their place. In the gov men have no recourse.

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Re: sexism in the work place

Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:54 pm

dothimelright@aol.com wrote:I make it my business to select women over men every time I can (in my job as a Government human resources person. I routinely disqualify men for no real reason, just me getting even and installing under qualified women in their place. In the gov men have no recourse.

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How unfortunate that you think small mindedly, because men and women should be valued on the work they do not their gender.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:01 pm

Sure a male can be a feminist. They are often the closeted fags with a heterosexual patina and the wimps of the world that mistake sentiments for thinking and feelings for facts.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:08 pm

. wrote:Sure a male can be a feminist. They are often the closeted fags with a heterosexual patina and the wimps of the world that mistake sentiments for thinking and feelings for facts.


A feminist is someone who believes women have the same working rights as men. This includes equal pay for the same work done, and considered for jobs that would normall go to men. What do you have against gay people? A person that would sling around insults like fag doesn't sound of someone interested in equality anyway.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:33 pm

. wrote:
. wrote:Sure a male can be a feminist. They are often the closeted fags with a heterosexual patina and the wimps of the world that mistake sentiments for thinking and feelings for facts.


A feminist is someone who believes women have the same working rights as men. This includes equal pay for the same work done, and considered for jobs that would normall go to men. What do you have against gay people? A person that would sling around insults like fag doesn't sound of someone interested in equality anyway.


If you think modern-day "feminists" and feminist theory and ideaolgy have anything to do with equity or equal rights, then you're either veyr green in understanding or have been living under a rock the past several decades.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:45 pm

. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:Sure a male can be a feminist. They are often the closeted fags with a heterosexual patina and the wimps of the world that mistake sentiments for thinking and feelings for facts.


A feminist is someone who believes women have the same working rights as men. This includes equal pay for the same work done, and considered for jobs that would normall go to men. What do you have against gay people? A person that would sling around insults like fag doesn't sound of someone interested in equality anyway.


If you think modern-day "feminists" and feminist theory and ideaolgy have anything to do with equity or equal rights, then you're either veyr green in understanding or have been living under a rock the past several decades.


Then if you are so knowledgeable, tell everyone what the difference is.

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Re: can a man be a feminist?

Postby Guest on Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:46 am

goodguy wrote:As a young boy I often fantisized of being superman and coming to the rescue of my mother who suffered (in mind, body and spirit) and the hands of my father who was nothing short of a tyrant (it's a very long story) but I said that to say this: As a defender of my mother, brother of three sisters, best friend to my wife, father of five daughters, I just have to say that I despise a chauvinist man, I despise a woman beater, control freaks and playboy wannabe's (womanizer) while on the other hand I also despise the spinless, gutless, the selfish, needy, jealous and insecure man. It's my opinion that a lot of men (if not most) have no business being in a relationship with a woman. I will teach my daughters to strive for higher education, self reliance and being independant (in need of no man), to have self respect (to love who and what they are). I will teach them that men are just accessories to be discarded if they don't match or measure up. I pity the fool who gets in the way. My gosh! am I a feminist?


no, you are gay

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Postby Guest on Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:43 am

. wrote:A person that would sling around insults like fag doesn't sound of someone interested in equality anyway.


Very true :D

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Postby Guest on Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:51 am

. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:Sure a male can be a feminist. They are often the closeted fags with a heterosexual patina and the wimps of the world that mistake sentiments for thinking and feelings for facts.


A feminist is someone who believes women have the same working rights as men. This includes equal pay for the same work done, and considered for jobs that would normall go to men. What do you have against gay people? A person that would sling around insults like fag doesn't sound of someone interested in equality anyway.


If you think modern-day "feminists" and feminist theory and ideaolgy have anything to do with equity or equal rights, then you're either veyr green in understanding or have been living under a rock the past several decades.


Thanks to feminists women are allowed to get an education, make their own money, vote and all those other things that are filed under ''normal life'' these days. If it were for types like you, women would still be chained to the cooker. If that's your type ..........

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Postby Guest on Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:23 pm

. wrote:Thanks to feminists women are allowed to get an education, make their own money, vote and all those other things that are filed under ''normal life'' these days. If it were for types like you, women would still be chained to the cooker. If that's your type ..........


you are the stupid stereotype feminist whining woman, sorry to say, but you have no clue. what woman don't seem to realise is that thanks to WESTERN MEN years ago woman got more rights. if you look to other nations and cultures the men there don't give away there powers over the nation.

sometimes I find it irritating that so many women are talking about all the men who did/do them wrong. don't forget who you have to thank and don't forget men had ALL the powers in the western countries not so long ago.

so now women have more rights, what's the point of being a feminist in the western world? just ignorant if you ask me.

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Postby Guest on Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:22 pm

. wrote:sometimes I find it irritating that so many women are talking about all the men who did/do them wrong. don't forget who you have to thank and don't forget men had ALL the powers in the western countries not so long ago.


Yes, and feminists paved the way for women to speak up and have their fair share of ''ALL the powers''. Without them, women would still be chained to the cooker and quietened by men like you. Thank Heavens times have changed and no woman has to listen to idiots like you :D 8)

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