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Postby Shagdoll on Mon May 30, 2005 6:48 pm

sorry, ^ is me.

This guy is clearly not a feminist, whose aim is to exercise equality. He even said men are objects. What a crack-up. He's prob just cuking up to the girls, it's what they want to hear- a man they can manipulate at will.

IMO of course :wink:

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Postby Guest on Mon May 30, 2005 7:23 pm

To be honest i think its all been taken out of proportion. To be honest i find that i'm always going out of my way for girls and it bugs me in ways but i've always been taught its what a guy should do. But in todays world a lot of woman don't like this... Its always been seen for men to give up their seats..this makes out that woman are weak u say? yes i agree but still i have bad knees!! and the old woman sitting next to me will make me feel bad. Every1 should repect themselfs and others if that happens then there will truely be equality? Treat your neighbor as you would like to be treated
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Postby The anti-feminist Guest on Tue May 31, 2005 9:32 am

Bullshit.
I know what feminism is. This is why I said that it is sexist.
There is plenty of sexism against males, but feminists pretend not to notice it.
Feminists blame the entire male gender because some men beat their wives - this is like blaming ehtnic minorities for crime.
Feminists pretend that in relationships/marriages women always have to do what men tell them, this is not true.
Feminists act in a "separatist"/"nationalistic" way, like women are something like a nation... what a stupid concept.

You should actually read some feminists websites and blogs before you speak. I have, I know what it is. It's nasty.

Most of all, in this day feminists are useless. They don't "fix" anything, they destroy. They make it seem as if males and females are each other's enemies, like there is a "war" going on. They have lots of influence on the media, and they use this influence to make women believe like they live in a misogynistic world and men are their enemy.
This ends up hurting women themselves in the end, because they can't have good relationships. How can you love your enemy?

Feminism is not what it pretends to be, it's going in the wrong path.

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Postby Guest on Tue May 31, 2005 2:45 pm

The anti-feminist Guest wrote:Bullshit.
I know what feminism is. This is why I said that it is sexist.
There is plenty of sexism against males, but feminists pretend not to notice it.
Feminists blame the entire male gender because some men beat their wives - this is like blaming ehtnic minorities for crime.
Feminists pretend that in relationships/marriages women always have to do what men tell them, this is not true.
Feminists act in a "separatist"/"nationalistic" way, like women are something like a nation... what a stupid concept.

You should actually read some feminists websites and blogs before you speak. I have, I know what it is. It's nasty.

Most of all, in this day feminists are useless. They don't "fix" anything, they destroy. They make it seem as if males and females are each other's enemies, like there is a "war" going on. They have lots of influence on the media, and they use this influence to make women believe like they live in a misogynistic world and men are their enemy.
This ends up hurting women themselves in the end, because they can't have good relationships. How can you love your enemy?

Feminism is not what it pretends to be, it's going in the wrong path.


You only know one branch of feminism, but there are many branches. Yes, there are feminists who hate men, and yes, there are feminists who love men. Don't limit yourself to only looking at one side and then judging all feminists by that one side you look at.

Go read some Susie Bright and her journal entry on Ayn Rand, broaden your views on the wide range of feminism.

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Postby Anti-feminist on Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:48 am

No, I know what feminism is.
It is not a "branch", it's all of it.
I typed "susie bright" in google, and it's some website about sex or something. Whatever...

Feminism is a lie. It's about clashing males and females against each other.
It says that females are being "oppressed", when they aren't.
In some european countries they can even have a free abortion paid for by the state, but they still say that they are "oppressed".

Even in countries like Germany, where males have to serve in the military and females don't, their feminists still say that women are oppressed.

It's about time that people start seeing it for what it is.
It isn't a "good thing", it is a very nasty harmful insidious thing.

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Postby Guest on Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:22 pm

Anti-feminist wrote:No, I know what feminism is.
It is not a "branch", it's all of it.
I typed "susie bright" in google, and it's some website about sex or something. Whatever...

Feminism is a lie. It's about clashing males and females against each other.
It says that females are being "oppressed", when they aren't.
In some european countries they can even have a free abortion paid for by the state, but they still say that they are "oppressed".

Even in countries like Germany, where males have to serve in the military and females don't, their feminists still say that women are oppressed.

It's about time that people start seeing it for what it is.
It isn't a "good thing", it is a very nasty harmful insidious thing.


Susie Bright is one of the MAIN pro porn (golly gosh) and loving men (golly golly gosh) FEMINISTS. if you know SO MUCH about feminists, you wouldn't have said '' and it's some website about sex or something. Whatever... ''. lol

''Whatever''. See only the one side, ignorance is ........ BLISS :D

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Postby Guest on Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:38 pm

The fact that there's a word "Feminist" and no word "Maninist" tells me something is arsebackwards.

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Postby Guest on Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:38 pm

Do you think his wife REALLY gives him a pounding with a StrapOn? :shock: :?

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Postby elliott20 on Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:11 am

meh, probably just some idiot who thought they'd pose as the guy and his wife and say some bullshit.
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Postby Guest on Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:57 am

. wrote:The fact that there's a word "Feminist" and no word "Maninist" tells me something is arsebackwards.


It's always a good idea to know about all aspects of something when you claim to know all aspects. It looks stupid, if you don't.

Pro porn feminists, feminist loving men, males feminists etc exist. If you deny their existance, you are an ignorant person who isn't willing to look at the full picture.

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Postby Guest on Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:54 pm

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. wrote:The fact that there's a word "Feminist" and no word "Maninist" tells me something is arsebackwards.


It's always a good idea to know about all aspects of something when you claim to know all aspects. It looks stupid, if you don't.

Pro porn feminists, feminist loving men, males feminists etc exist. If you deny their existance, you are an ignorant person who isn't willing to look at the full picture.


Of course... and on the same topic...

My guess is that it's a guy who posted, waited for the -you go girl- knee jerk response from women and then responded to his post to point out that women "ignore" the disagreeable aspects of feminism and aren't "willing to look at the full picture".

I think his point was well taken... I'm a guy and I nearly missed it too.

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Postby Guest on Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:15 am

. wrote:It's always a good idea to know about all aspects of something when you claim to know all aspects. It looks stupid, if you don't.


It's always a good idea to know that what you're saying is a stupid as it sounds to other people, even if you think it doesn't. What you say may have the aroma of roses in your biased nostrils, but smells like bullshit that it is to others.

. wrote:Pro porn feminists, feminist loving men, males feminists etc exist. If you deny their existance, you are an ignorant person who isn't willing to look at the full picture.


Like the people who call themselves the "good" skinheads. Feminism is still for special rights, privileges and superiority for women no matter what qualifier to put on it.

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Postby azraelle on Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:38 am

A few years after my firstborn daughter was born, I mentioned to my wife that I would like to raise her to feel she had the option to be a "femme fatale", should she lean that way, regardless of what my LDS (Mormon) religion taught to the contrary. She did not end up becoming one, but a well-rounded, if assertive, woman, who wanted, and essentially got, a husband who, in her words, "worships the ground I walk upon". They are very much in love, have 2-1/2 daughters of their own, and share responsibilities at home.

I also taught her how to shoot, paid for 4 years of Kung Fu training, as well as 6 years of piano (at HER request). And she has a keen interest in "fine blades". She grew up with a feeling of self-worth, at least in part because she knew her parents valued her as a person, regardless of her gender.

My point is if you raise daughters to feel that they truly have a femminist option, and you will still love them as much, they will probably make balanced choices.
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Postby elliott20 on Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:25 am

how does one really go about having 2 and 1/2 daughters is my question. Of course, she COULD have had a hermaphrodite for the 3rd child so technically she also has half a boy too.
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Postby Guest on Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:45 am

It's always a good idea to know that what you're saying is a stupid as it sounds to other people, even if you think it doesn't. What you say may have the aroma of roses in your biased nostrils, but smells like bullshit that it is to others.


If you only want to see the one side, it's your choice. I like seeing the whole picture.


Like the people who call themselves the "good" skinheads. Feminism is still for special rights, privileges and superiority for women no matter what qualifier to put on it.


The original skinheads weren't interested in politics. There were skinheads of all colour (and occasionally you'll still find a darkskinned skinhead). Politics became an issue when some fascists took the skinhead look, called themselves skinheads, which led the true skinheads (Sham 69 etc) to officially politically distance themselves from these fake skinheads , who the real skinheads actually call BONEheads.
There are skinheads (boneheads !) who are fascists, skinheads who don't care about politics (and are of all races) and skinheads who are leftists (''sharp'').

Know the facts, you fool.

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