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Postby mogadishu on Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:35 pm

It's a really good career if you are successful it seems. I heard of someone who went straight on to £40 an hour after completing his hospital training. And we'll always need psychologists... It must be quite hard to swtich off from though, if you hear really harrowing things.
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Postby Curvey_Brunette on Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:46 pm

mogadishu wrote:It's a really good career if you are successful it seems. I heard of someone who went straight on to £40 an hour after completing his hospital training. And we'll always need psychologists... It must be quite hard to swtich off from though, if you hear really harrowing things.


I've done quite a lot with my degrees from NHS work, private work and a lot of voluntary work with adolescents.

NHS pay is shite, the conditions are terrible as you're always under pressure to get clients in and out of therapy within 6 weeks, that's 1 x 1-Hour session per week. Now I'm good but I'm not that good and I doubt anyone is.

In private practice, you can charge up to £150 an hour as well as pick and choose your clients.

As for switching off, you have to always keep it in mind they're not friends, they're not family, they're paying clients.

Stories from victims of real abuse can be very harrowing and you have to be very cold not to be affected by the events they describe, (but it's OK to have a good cry in private when the session is over bit never in a session)

So many people don't cry these days even though it is good for you.

But after that session you may have a session with someone who gets stressed when they have to drive somewhere and it sort of puts everything in perspective, though I'll admit it's very difficult not to be curt and short with someone whining because they have no focus in their lives.
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Postby mogadishu on Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:51 pm

presumably most chartered psychologists want to go private then... do you think public work will always be that pressured because of the demand for the service, or could the pressure be lessened with a lot of extra funding? is it difficult to get private posts?
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Postby Curvey_Brunette on Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:09 pm

mogadishu wrote:presumably most chartered psychologists want to go private then... do you think public work will always be that pressured because of the demand for the service, or could the pressure be lessened with a lot of extra funding? is it difficult to get private posts?


It's not really about funding as such, it's about compartmentalisation of people.

Mr. A suffers X, Y, Z symptoms therefore this is what's wrong with him.

Miss. B suffers H, I, J symptoms therefore this is what's wrong with her.

The biggest problem I find in people is due to one thing and only one thing, apathy, complete and total apathy.

Certainly over the last 11 or so years it's got much worse.

As Thatcher said "Hard work may not get you to the top but you'll get pretty close" where as Tony is a liberal wimp giving 'power' to the criminals and losing site of what's there.

People do need more and more help because they're no longer talked to, they're talked at, they're told what to do, when to do it, how to do it and without that they're lost.

It's not a case of people are suffering more and more mental disorders, it's because they're so stifled and so wrapped up in cotton wool they can't function without continual guidance and praise for what they've done.

As human beings we're set up, (in our core), to have a hierarchy, to have an "upper, middle & lower" class system so people knew where they were at.

Most 'issues' come about because people don't achieve the expectations they've set for themselves, they fail to live up to the "Ikea kitchen you can play football in" and the "living room the size of an Olympic swimming pool" They don't drive a 'flash car' and wear 'flash' clothes, they don't have a social life the adverts depict they should have and without one or all of these elements they feel a complete and total failure.

Around 60% of my NHS clients have these sorts of "issues" and to be honest, they're "cured" on session #2 because it suddenly dawns on them that what they seek is pure materialism without ever knowing why.
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Postby buttons on Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:44 pm

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Postby Curvey_Brunette on Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:47 pm

buttons wrote:The third person is a little less egotistical than I, a pronoun of which Curvey_Brunette is so fond.


I love it when I go fishing and I get a bite.
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Postby Curvey_Brunette on Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:58 pm

buttons wrote:Funnily enough today, a psychologist and I were talking about how you nearly always go for the bate.


I mentioned you in passing in a post to someone else, you came a running like a good little boy who was called.

At least me honest with yourself if you can't be honest with anyone else then perhaps your therapy could move forwards.

As for your claim, no psychologist would indulge a patients delusion under any circumstances, the BPS would strike them off.
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Postby Curvey_Brunette on Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:16 pm

buttons wrote:Well,first of all it is rude to talk in front of a person as though he or she was not there.


This name of yours wasn't here, nor was your bill name. I don't know of any other names you use.

And I was talking ABOUT you not to you

buttons wrote:Secondly, yes, your psychology has been discussed with people trained in psychology, likewise have your qualifications, but yes it is true they wouldn't want their conclusions discussed, because they might be disciplined. Hard luck!


Don't lie OK, it's really not worth it.

This aspect of your "life" has an off switch, the Internet and the strangers on it you come into contact with have no bearing or relevance to your therapy.

The professional advice you'd be given would be not to go back, not to try and analyse and dissect a posters words based on little/no background information and no ability to introduce that person into the therapy because closure and resolution will never be found.

You ain't getting to me kid, I feel like I'm beating a puppy with an iron bar each time I respond to you.

I might change my name on here to "Cruella Deville" {sic}
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Postby buttons on Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:42 pm

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Postby Curvey_Brunette on Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:46 pm

buttons wrote: Woops, here’s you trying to project your guilt upon someone other, again.

Thank you,you have proved my point again.

Again, you don't know what's going on this side of the screen, but you're too silly to realize that. You see you can not say others will not break codes, when you yourself have done so.

Yes,and you're the puppy,who loves to inflict pain upon itself.

P.s you're showing that part of your psycology disscussed today. :lol:


Keep on digging son, soon you'll hit rock bottom and you'll have to come back up again.
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Postby buttons on Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:53 pm


You shall go to the ball, Cinderalla.


Buttons is a pantomimic character, and accordingly he likes to tell a story (sometimes someone else's), and argue a little absurdly. On a point of fairness, he may assist any Cinderalla, despised though that cause may be: he is a little idealistic, but he is quite young. I hope he has stirred no undignified emotion within in anyone, for what he says and does is often only in jest.

Best wishes to everyone, from the three ugly sisters.
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Postby mogadishu on Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:50 pm

As human beings we're set up, (in our core), to have a hierarchy, to have an "upper, middle & lower" class system so people knew where they were at.



are you sure? i thought that class was an artificial construction.
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Postby Curvey_Brunette on Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:28 pm

mogadishu wrote:are you sure? i thought that class was an artificial construction.


It's a little of both really. It's supposed to be a self perpetuating machine where money and asserts are handed down to the chosen few while the majority have their own levels of hierarchy.

Each 'class' member would volley for his or her own position within the level they were born into.

This is why in the 18th & 19th centuries domestic staff, (servants), often worked for the accommodation they lived in. The woman would work in the house while the man would work the land.

Children would often progress into working in their parents position within the house which is why the few 'family homes' who employ staff have staff that can be dated back generations. Once this sort of thing was rife but sadly these days it's rare.

We have "progressed" to the point where everyone wants the same position.
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