Catholics, Conservatives and Condoms

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Catholics, Conservatives and Condoms

Postby MM6 » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:52 pm

Religious zealots will not accept that the harm they do by banning the use of condoms far outweighs any so called pseudo "morality" that misplaced abstinence-only programmes promote.

Comment: Cursing condoms
01 September 2007
NewScientist.com news service
William Laurance


THE Vatican calls them "evil", "sinful" and "intrinsically disordered". Satanic rites, perhaps? Child molesters? Actually, something far more prosaic: condoms. Equally condemned is any other artificial contraceptive - even as a means to check the spread of HIV.

The global impact of the Catholic church's antagonism to contraception has been magnified by the resurgence of moral conservatism in the US, under the administration of George W. Bush. The US used to be the world's biggest and most effective donor for condoms and other contraceptives, but Bush slashed funds for such services, and replaced them with ideologically inspired programmes proffering abstinence as the sole means of reproductive planning for the unwed.

Faced with these draconian measures, many non-governmental health organisations now refuse or are excluded from US funding, and their programmes are suffering as a result. In Panama, where I live, and where the median income is around $15 a day, condoms are a luxury item.

This US policy has drawn much criticism, particularly because of its tragic implications for the spread of HIV. But we shouldn't forget that contraception is crucial for addressing many of the other major challenges that face humanity today. Our planet, already staggering under 6.5 billion people, is expecting to add another 2 billion by 2030, and perhaps 2 billion beyond that by 2050. Nearly all of them will be born in developing nations.

Consider just four implications. My colleague Joseph Wright, a tropical ecologist, has demonstrated a strong inverse relationship between human population density and forest cover in tropical countries. As nations grow in numbers, they lose their forests, and the most populous countries, such as the Philippines, Honduras and Madagascar, have become severely denuded. This threatens the survival of countless plant and animal species.

Razed rainforests are also an enormous source of greenhouse gases, dumping around 5 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere annually. Indeed, without implausibly deep cuts in per capita emissions it is inconceivable that efforts to slow global warming will succeed as long as the population keeps expanding.

Population growth also worsens human strife. Several recent studies have shown that a key predictor of armed civil conflict in developing nations is not their predominant religion or the region in which they are located, but the fraction of the adult population between the ages of 15 and 29. Rapidly growing countries are flooded with unemployed and disenfranchised young men. Far too often, they become prime fodder for crime or war, or even recruitment into a terrorist cell. Gunnar Heinsohn, an expert in genocide research at the University of Bremen, Germany, argues, for example, that a critical difference between two Muslim countries, war-torn Afghanistan and peaceful Tunisia, is that Afghanistan's birth rate is four times as high. Throw as many soldiers and dollars at Afghanistan as you like, he suggests, but the country will be roiled by conflict until its mushrooming population stabilises.

Finally there is the politically charged issue of immigration. According to the United Nations Population Division, the US population will swell by well over 100 million people by the year 2050, largely because of the millions of Latin American immigrants it receives each year. Western Europe faces similar pressures but with the complication that many of its immigrants are Muslims from north Africa, the Middle East and south Asia: they do not always assimilate as easily into western societies as many Latin Americans. Immigrants contribute positively in diverse ways, but large numbers can also exacerbate economic, environmental and social pressures.

Fortunately, rapid population growth is soluble. There is a simple means to slow it: educate women, especially about their reproductive health. On average, better-educated women defer having children until their early 20s. They have fewer children overall and fewer unwanted pregnancies. More of their children survive, and they are healthier and better educated in their turn. The women and their families are also much better off economically. Giving women the option of contraception is the single most important factor in achieving the "demographic transition" in which a nation's population growth slows, longevity increases, and it starts to balance its numbers of young and older people.

It's hard to say whether the upper echelons of conservative faiths will ever stop condemning contraception. But it's certain that with a different leadership, the US could become part of the family-planning solution, rather than part of the problem. Before the next US presidential election, the candidates should say where they stand on family-planning issues - and US citizens should remember this when they vote


William Laurance is a biologist at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute in Balboa, Panama
From issue 2619 of New Scientist magazine, 01 September 2007, page 23
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Postby Lena » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:52 pm

The only family planning issue here is whether you pro or anti -choice . It's too simple , to the point of being stupid .

There's a all too powerful anti-abortion lobby not led by the catholics but maninly fundamentalist protestants that make this the main issue and politicos dance all around the issue so not to offend them .
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Postby myron myron » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:51 pm

The article is a random collection of unconnected slogans and unrelated leftist talking points based on fictitious "facts" divorced from reality.

For starters, George W. Bush is not Catholic and does not oppose contraception.

Moreover, "population growth" is not a present concern in industrialized countries owing to significant decreases in birth rates; the present concern is population contraction.

Nor is "[o]ur planet, already staggering under 6.5 billion people."

And "the resurgence of moral conservatism in the US" did not occur "under the administration of George W. Bush"; it occurred two decades earlier, beginning with the election of Ronald Reagan.

Is the article intended in jest?
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Postby tamachant » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:46 am

What about good Catholic Married couples ? What kind of contreception are they allowed, or is it completelly forbidden to use contreception.

Are they supposed to just continue to produce children ?
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Re: Catholics, Conservatives and Condoms

Postby SUPERBAD » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:18 pm

MM6 wrote:THE Vatican calls them "evil", "sinful" and "intrinsically disordered". Satanic rites, perhaps? Child molesters? Actually, something far more prosaic: condoms. Equally condemned is any other artificial contraceptive - even as a means to check the spread of HIV.



If they kept it in their pants they would not catch the HIV.
Condoms promote promiscuous behavior.

So basically curbing the advance of HIV is the right for the two wrongs of condoms and promiscuity in the church eyes.

I applaud them for not falling into the trap of bad logic.


And, I find the entire article quite juvenile in it's position.
The author basically wants condoms so he can do what he wants and does not like being told NO you cant have them.
The entire article is basically him whining like a baby.
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