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Re: My son also wants to wear nail polish

Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:09 pm

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Guest12345 wrote:hey guys i have a similar problem in which my 6 year old son wants to wear nail polish, hes asked me twice about it and l said no the first time and then said maybe later the second time. I dont know if l should or shouldnt, even though lve read the responses.......any advice would be great.

If it was a girl would you let her? If the answer is yes then what gives you the right to impress such strong gender roles on him. If he want to play (and lets face it at 6 thats all it is) with nail varnish whats the problem?

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Really? I'd just call it common sense :roll:

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Re: My son also wants to wear nail polish

Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:12 pm

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. wrote:
noodles wrote:
Guest12345 wrote:hey guys i have a similar problem in which my 6 year old son wants to wear nail polish, hes asked me twice about it and l said no the first time and then said maybe later the second time. I dont know if l should or shouldnt, even though lve read the responses.......any advice would be great.

If it was a girl would you let her? If the answer is yes then what gives you the right to impress such strong gender roles on him. If he want to play (and lets face it at 6 thats all it is) with nail varnish whats the problem?

armchair child psychologist :roll:

Really? I'd just call it common sense :roll:

if you want a gay son

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Postby noodles on Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:15 pm

Yep its definitely the gender roles impressed on kids that are a potential psychological nightmare NOT the view that lets them do what they want (within reason obviously) - they'll make thier own mind up about what they do and dont like.

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Re: My son also wants to wear nail polish

Postby noodles on Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:17 pm

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. wrote:
noodles wrote:
Guest12345 wrote:hey guys i have a similar problem in which my 6 year old son wants to wear nail polish, hes asked me twice about it and l said no the first time and then said maybe later the second time. I dont know if l should or shouldnt, even though lve read the responses.......any advice would be great.

If it was a girl would you let her? If the answer is yes then what gives you the right to impress such strong gender roles on him. If he want to play (and lets face it at 6 thats all it is) with nail varnish whats the problem?

armchair child psychologist :roll:

Really? I'd just call it common sense :roll:

if you want a gay son


Lmao - I dont know any gay men who wear nail varnish. Ignoramous :lol: :lol: :lol:

And I suppose all young girls who play footy are gonna be dungaree wearing lezzers :roll:

David Beckham wears nail varnish and takes great pride in his appearance and did on one occassion wear a sarong. He's gay then is he?

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Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:57 pm

does name calling mean you are smart?

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Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:01 pm

. wrote:does name calling mean you are smart?



Does making uneducated homophobic remarks make 'you' smart? I called you an ignoramous - this wasnt name calling, it was a justified observation in light of your comment.

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Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:10 pm

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. wrote:does name calling mean you are smart?

Does making uneducated homophobic remarks make 'you' smart? I called you an ignoramous - this wasnt name calling, it was a justified observation in light of your comment.

is merely saying the word 'gay' now classed as 'homophobic' in this orwellian day and age? do you know i am wrong? what are the formative childhood years for sexuality? tell us, big expert...

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Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:25 pm

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. wrote:
. wrote:does name calling mean you are smart?

Does making uneducated homophobic remarks make 'you' smart? I called you an ignoramous - this wasnt name calling, it was a justified observation in light of your comment.

is merely saying the word 'gay' now classed as 'homophobic' in this orwellian day and age? do you know i am wrong? what are the formative childhood years for sexuality? tell us, big expert...



Crikey you really are stupid (again an informed observation). The homophobia was relating to the presumption that a young boy who wears nailvarnish will turn out gay NOT the word gay :roll:

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Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:31 pm

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. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:does name calling mean you are smart?

Does making uneducated homophobic remarks make 'you' smart? I called you an ignoramous - this wasnt name calling, it was a justified observation in light of your comment.

is merely saying the word 'gay' now classed as 'homophobic' in this orwellian day and age? do you know i am wrong? what are the formative childhood years for sexuality? tell us, big expert...

Crikey you really are stupid (again an informed observation). The homophobia was relating to the presumption that a young boy who wears nailvarnish will turn out gay NOT the word gay :roll:

even if incorrect, how is that 'presumption' homophobic? tell us, expert, does homosexuality result from 'nature or nurture'?

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Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:33 pm

and you still didnt answer my earlier question..

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Postby The Colonel on Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:28 pm

A boy doesn't become gay because of make-up or nail varnish.

But it isn't appropriate for a boy's gender, full stop.
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Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:22 pm

if a boy is treated as a girl from an infant to age 6, can you say for sure it will not affect sexuality as an adult?

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Postby The Colonel on Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:28 pm

. wrote:if a boy is treated as a girl from an infant to age 6, can you say for sure it will not affect sexuality as an adult?


Gender identity yes.

Sexuality is a different matter.
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Postby Guest on Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:33 pm

how about gender preference?

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Postby noodles on Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:47 am

I believe that gender identity and sexuality are truly things within individual people. Its not something thats chosen but something that is. If you 'make' a young boy wear dresses and makeup (for play or otherwise) and it goes against their natural bieng you are going to fu** up your child.

Similarly if a young boy is in touch with what we percieve as feminine and negative traits and wants to dress up in his mums clothes and you make him feel bad for doing it or tell him he cant you equally fu** him up.

I feel that if you allow a child to work out who they are for themselves you are much more likely to find a well balanced adult in later life.

A young boy who is told only girls cry, more than likely 'will' have problems with expression. A young boy who is stopped playing with mums clothes at an early age more than likely 'will' then only play with approved toys, he will do this for acceptance not because its what he naturally wants to do. (or maybe he likes tonka toys AND mums clothes). Gay kids brought up in unaccepting households are much more likely to struggle and feel mentally distressed. If what you are forced to accept and believe as a child isnt who you naturally are its potentially damaging.

Im not suggesting all kids are forced to play percieved boys/girls clothes and toys, Im merely suggesting that given the choice they will find thier own way of bieng thats most comfortable for them.

David Beckam is a straight man, he's also successful sportsman and family man. He wear nail varnish and earings - he loves fashion - do you believe he's messed up about his gender? Or is he just comfortable with himself and likes to experiment with clothes and accessories?

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