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Postby The Colonel » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:28 pm

The political philosophy of Europeans Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels has inspired and continues to inspire dictators to murder, torture, enslave and deprive of basic human rights tens of millions of their own people and people from other countries. The barbaric Communist dictators include Lenin, Stalin and their successors in the former Soviet Union; the Eastern European dictators of the former Warsaw Pact countries; Mao and his successors in China and Tibet, even presently; Hoxha in Albania; Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge in the "killing fields" of Cambodia; the Kim father/son dictatorship in North Korea, even presently; Castro in Cuba, even presently; and the list goes on and on.


The political philosophy of Europeans includes liberalism, conservatism, and socialism, as well as probably a few more (hard to say whether nationalism and feminism started completely in Europe). Just because some turned bad (fascism and communism) it is hardy apt to state that Europe alone is responsible.

Are you forgetting the liberal (in fact British liberal) contribution to the US?
"Life, liberty and property", the separation of powers, consent by the people, toleration and plurality?

Where might the US be without the above? To that the extent that the US would not be the US we know.

Those are just some examples that existed far before the founding of the USA.
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Postby myron myron » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:14 pm

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Postby cosmicB » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:22 pm

Great thesis... Thanks...

America is Britain's 13-Colonies... so it seems that Britain is still at it, doing all the violence and terror, as Britain's original America...
When is all the killing and stifling life to stop..?

Lets look into the future a couple years... What will become of us when this Arab/American war goes full-blown nuclear in the sand..?
I estimate that it holds the potential to exterminate about 3/4's the life on the planet, maybe more.. maybe all of it..? The planet couldn't recover... It would be all downhill from there... We would have no option but to embrace an early self-imposed extinction... The big boys are playing Russian-roulette with all Life in the anti.. all chambers loaded... No one win war... War eats people.. then turns on its masters, and eats them too... We feed war momentum.. then it becomes an unstoppable entity... It's almost there right now... Who has the brains to know when to switch war Off..?

We know the mistakes we did over the centuries, and how and why.. but we continue to do the same mistakes.. as if we need to do all the mistakes before we will see it in ourselves to embrace Reality.. like how Science works to solve a problem.. it tries everything that doesn't work, till it stumbles upon something that does...

War is a mistake which will probably kill us all... Someone in authority has to see it, and just stop it while we still have a living planet...

I think we need to gather all the powers, all nations in humanity, all the Arab States, all the Arab insurgency bosses.. all the so called terrorists, all in one place, and ask everybody what it is they want and need.. and humanity just get together and fulfill it all, as an alternative to total annihilation...

It seems that America is feverishly trying to fulfill all the prophesies of doom and destruction.. including create the proverbial hell on earth...
Those prophesies were of things to avoid, things to not do.. not a road-map of what to do...
It seems that Christianity is driving humanity toward suicide...
Maybe the cure to war is to just eliminate religion...
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Postby myron myron » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:28 pm

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Postby cosmicB » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:35 am

HotDam!.. you write well.. for a human...


How many Christians are there in the world today..? and how many innocents did christianity's inquisitions slaughter because they refused to accept christinsanity..? And can you see that the deadly/crazy inquisition has been rebooted now by America..? and it rides with America's great militarized wars on drugs, wars for oil, and war for global domination for money... It's as if America intends to liquefy as much of the planet as it can into dollars, at the expense of life, the quality of life, and the very life of the planet...

Why don't Americans have any grasp that there is a future..? It seems that mankind hasn't got a clue that there is anything but the minute they are operating in, till they get to the next minute... Most people do things, then are surprised by the unexpected results... Most people seem to possess the same level of mentality as the red soldier, "Scorch", in the first "lord of the rings" feature cartoon... I tried to wake humans to some reality, in a dedicated five year effort on the Internet.. and totally failed... I woke none... I only made the crazies angrier... I found that you just can't wake the dead... It is the dead who are making these wars.. "the living dead".. the zombies... I don't know what percent of this human race is alive, and what percent is the living dead, but I estimate it to be about 1% of the living, 99% in varying degrees of something else, not human...

In scrutinizing the human race I discovered that we are made up of thirteen subspecies.. one of which is human.. the others are combinations of the animals and varying degrees of ape... And the problem is that all thirteen layers are mating with all the other layers, using sex just as sport.. thereby producing odd mixes of messed-up offspring.. to the point that who knows what the hell we are..? And with this crazy democracy modified slavery governance system even single digit IQ's have the right to vote for which dictator we elect to ruin our lives for yet another four years of slavery for money... Too many of them vote for a "George", just because their own name starts in a "G", or because they like his smile, or envy his wealth... But then it doesn't really matter which one of the two majors is elected.. they will still be blindly running the same old sewer-class system, as they grow comfy in the big-chair, settling into the old-program, growing fatter, lazier, sleepier, stupider, and malleable, and good at tossing cookies to quell the publics occasional noise...

We need to redefine humanity, dump religion and democracy, and devise a governance system that works with life, love, peace, dignity, and honesty... Me thinks we are using the wrong tools to effect world peace... It's like we are using a hammer to fix the TV.. or a knife to fix a cut.. or putting out the fire with gasoline...

This war seems to be a perpetual war of all the world's religious factions, including and especially America's Christianity... and it's about Oil, Drugs, Vengeance, and the consolidation of several little wars into one big one.. that being the overly prophesied and overly marketed WW3... And it all seems that we are making this war just to thin our numbers, so the planet will get the opportunity to heal out our messes, like lemmings mass-suicide when they mass leap off cliffs into freezing waters, when there isn't enough food to support their numbers...
The problem with the nuclear cure is that it makes the planet uninhabitable... We need to find a different tool other than war...

Agreed, Muslims just got caught in running their own inquisition.. and maybe they would have succeeded if America hadn't enticed them into attacking America "9/11", thereby declaring war on America... Then America unearthed their worldwide sleeper religious war, and thus nipped it in the bud... We gotta thank America for that... But again, America is targeting the innocent, making all the mistakes till they eventually get it right.. same as how mindless-science works... Better would be to resolve the perfect targeting solution, and fire the one shot that gets the job done.. as opposed to showering the human race with bullets, in hopes that a few will get the right targets...
Essentially all the world needs, is 734 bullets fired into the brains of the 734 nipple-biter warmongering humans who are hellbent on causing all this grief and all those crazy wars, who have lost their respect for themselves, for life, and for humanity ... Only then will there be the base plain to effect a peace on earth... But it seems that humanity has lost respect for humanity... and all that remain is "hell on earth... All this crap humans are doing to innocent humans is essentially the proverbial "hell"... There is no other hell... Religion's imaginary hell does not exist, but in the minds of the mindless... and the crazies are trying to build it on earth, and are succeeding... which is the base reason for all the outspoken noise all round the world... Religion is the contractor, guiding humanity into building religion's great hell, so religion will have something big to save us from, so religion will have earned all the money... War is all about money and power... Maybe we need to extinct Money before it spends us...
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Postby one_irish_rover » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:03 pm

Looks like I'm late to the party again. 8)
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Postby cosmicB » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:58 pm

I'm wondering how you intend to act in this party..?

Can you add to the thread..?
Right now it's stuck at "How can mankind extinct Money, and still maintain a reasonable degree of reality, within the walls of absolute honesty and absolute logistical realism..?"...
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Postby cosmicB » Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:08 pm

In "Yahoo Answers" the question asked, "What would you do to bring about world peace?"



I responded: I would extinct Money, Religion, and Democracy.. that vile triad of evil, which we have coated humanity with, which is devouring humanity as fast and hard as it can... Money is spending humanity and Life faster than the planet can repair and restore... One day the planet will simply run out of life because of humanity following America's mindless, thoughtless, careless, lead into and down hell's great gullet...

I would re-assess humanity, and define humanity as being an Honest, Sharing, Loving, Dignified, Caring, Conscious Entity...

I would build a mile high steel reinforced concrete wall around the United States to totally isolate America from the rest of world.. for it is America's insatiable greed and glut for money, and their militarily fulfilling of their insane 13-Colonies Salemish/Boston Tea Partyish/Inquisitionish, policy, which is responsible for the messes the world is in today...
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Postby geraldineAE » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:52 pm

cosmicB wrote:In "Yahoo Answers" the question asked, "What would you do to bring about world peace?"





I would build a mile high steel reinforced concrete wall around the United States to totally isolate America from the rest of world.. for it is America's insatiable greed and glut for money, and their militarily fulfilling of their insane 13-Colonies Salemish/Boston Tea Partyish/Inquisitionish, policy, which is responsible for the messes the world is in today...


Yes, I can see the people of Zimbabwe,Darfur,Burma, Ceylon,Chechyna ,Kosovo,Kashmir North Korea and Tibet agreeing with you.....damn those yankees!
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Postby boingo » Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:44 am

I would give a reply to the title question, but that first quoted post was nonsensical rubbish. Was it edited from a longer post?
They obviously attempted to impress us by using a couple of long words they made up too. :?
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