Does a potential husband have a right to know?

[Fred75]

Your wrong.
You still were irresponsible for having sex with a guy you barely knew and had no commitment from.

And because of that... your son never had his father home.


I hope you apologized to him for being stupid.

[coolman]

Just out of curiosity, fred: how old were you when you first had sex? Were you an adult?

Ask all you want.
It's not relevant to doing it RIGHT for the welfare of your children.

It is relevant, if you are faulting her for something that she did in her past, if you did the same thing in your past.

I believe you will have heard the biblical saying, "let ye without sin cast the first stone". You are not being Christian!

[Fred75]

Just out of curiosity, fred: how old were you when you first had sex? Were you an adult?

Ask all you want.
It's not relevant to doing it RIGHT for the welfare of your children.

It is relevant, if you are faulting her for something that she did in her past, if you did the same thing in your past.

I believe you will have heard the biblical saying, "let ye without sin cast the first stone". You are not being Christian!

Then no one learns form ones mistakes.
That sound smart to you?
or are you just going to keep using it for whats no more than JUVENILE JUSTIFICATION?

I suggest you GROW UP and learn form others rather than pointing fingers and saying YOU DID IT IT SO I GET TO TOO!

Idiots.

[Fred75]

If I killed someone in my youth... does that give you the right to too?
Does that make me saying it's immoral a joke to you?


How the F*** old are you?

[coolman]

If I killed someone in my youth... does that give you the right to too?
Does that make me saying it's immoral a joke to you?


How the F*** old are you?

no it doesn't give me the right to do it. But it doesn't give you the right to condemn someone else who killed in their past and paid their dues to society.

How old I am is truly irrelevant.

[Fred75]

If I killed someone in my youth... does that give you the right to too?
Does that make me saying it's immoral a joke to you?


How the F*** old are you?

no it doesn't give you the right to do it. But it doesn't give you the right to condemn someone else who killed in their past and paid their dues to society.

How old I am is truly irrelevant.

Problem is Polgara paid NO DEBT.
Her children PAID THE PRICE.

[Polgara69]

And what about his father? What debt did he pay for sleeping with someone he had not long met and then giving her no support even when she asked for it? Why is only the women that get slagged off? The men are just as responsible you know. If we could get pregnant on our own then you would have a case but you still need men to do that. And my children didnt pay the price at all. The father did by alienating such a great young man who now wouldnt talk to him if he begged him to.

[Mr A]

If I killed someone in my youth... does that give you the right to too?
Does that make me saying it's immoral a joke to you?


How the F*** old are you?

no it doesn't give me the right to do it. But it doesn't give you the right to condemn someone else who killed in their past and paid their dues to society.

with Fred it's very much "do as I say, not as I do"


The fact that each and EVERY time when someone asks him about his past/personal circumstances he refuses to say anything greatly implies imo that half the stuff he goes on at people for he has infact done himself..

[coolman]

If I killed someone in my youth... does that give you the right to too?
Does that make me saying it's immoral a joke to you?


How the F*** old are you?

no it doesn't give me the right to do it. But it doesn't give you the right to condemn someone else who killed in their past and paid their dues to society.

with Fred it's very much "do as I say, not as I do"


The fact that each and EVERY time when someone asks him about his past/personal circumstances he refuses to say anything greatly implies imo that half the stuff he goes on at people for he has infact done himself..

yeah, I've noticed that about him. Bet he's got 10 little bastards running around out there asking every guy they meet, "is you my daddy?"

[Fred75]

And what about his father? What debt did he pay for sleeping with someone he had not long met and then giving her no support even when she asked for it? Why is only the women that get slagged off? The men are just as responsible you know. If we could get pregnant on our own then you would have a case but you still need men to do that. And my children didnt pay the price at all. The father did by alienating such a great young man who now wouldnt talk to him if he begged him to.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

YOU ended up with the child(ren).
As women typically ALWAYS DO.

And BECAUSE you had sex at such a young age..
with a man you barely knew.
who hadnt even made a committed to you with marriage

YOU SPREAD YOUR LEGS AND HAD HIS CHILD!

That's ALL YOUR DOING.

And your children paid the price.

[ZiaAries]

If I killed someone in my youth... does that give you the right to too?
Does that make me saying it's immoral a joke to you?


How the F*** old are you?

no it doesn't give me the right to do it. But it doesn't give you the right to condemn someone else who killed in their past and paid their dues to society.

with Fred it's very much "do as I say, not as I do"


The fact that each and EVERY time when someone asks him about his past/personal circumstances he refuses to say anything greatly implies imo that half the stuff he goes on at people for he has infact done himself..

yeah, I've noticed that about him. Bet he's got 10 little bastards running around out there asking every guy they meet, "is you my daddy?"

Mr A and Coolman is right on.

Polgara69, Fred is playing his game with you. His rules only apply to others, not himself.

[Fred75]

If I killed someone in my youth... does that give you the right to too?
Does that make me saying it's immoral a joke to you?


How the F*** old are you?

no it doesn't give you the right to do it. But it doesn't give you the right to condemn someone else who killed in their past and paid their dues to society.

How old I am is truly irrelevant.

Problem is Polgara paid NO DEBT.
Her children PAID THE PRICE.

What... no reply to this?

Finally... you understand!

[coolman]

oh you insipid little man. You refuse to answer my questions, then assume I agree when I ignore your statements. Ask a question, maybe I'll answer.

[coolman]

oh you insipid little man.

don't worry, I'll wait while you look it up in the dictionary.

[Polgara69]

And what about his father? What debt did he pay for sleeping with someone he had not long met and then giving her no support even when she asked for it? Why is only the women that get slagged off? The men are just as responsible you know. If we could get pregnant on our own then you would have a case but you still need men to do that. And my children didnt pay the price at all. The father did by alienating such a great young man who now wouldnt talk to him if he begged him to.

Erm, helloooo. I believe I did answer. And your argument about women always gettign the child is wrong. Ask my dad who got custody when my mother walked out when I was a baby.