Does socialized medicine make you a dependent?

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Does socialized medicine make you a dependent?

Postby Fred75 on Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:38 pm

Does socialized medicine make you a dependent of the state?
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Postby ozi on Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:29 pm

You seem to have an axe to grind against socialism and communism fred i think :wink:

You've read ayn rand i guess, shermer's new book mind of the market is also an interesting read i thought.

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Re: Does socialized medicine make you a dependent?

Postby Lena on Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:43 pm

Fred75 wrote:Does socialized medicine make you a dependent of the state?


No , it wud give health care to everyone that needs it :!:
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Re: Does socialized medicine make you a dependent?

Postby Fred75 on Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:57 pm

Lena wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Does socialized medicine make you a dependent of the state?


No , it wud give health care to everyone that needs it :!:


Then pick the appropriate answer, please.
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Postby Lena on Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:37 pm

You misspelled capable ...............................

I reject your choices, to me reality comes first .People need health care . :D
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Postby Fred75 on Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:41 pm

Lena wrote:You misspelled capable ...............................

I reject your choices, to me reality comes first .People need health care . :D


Then truly be altruistic... give 20% of your pay to hospitals.
Don't FORCE the rest of us to pay just to make you feel better!
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Postby ozi on Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:01 pm

Fred75 wrote:
Don't FORCE the rest of us to pay just to make you feel better!


It isnt people forcing you to do anything, governments use force. The public can only choose between pay or lose their freedom behind bars.

Placing blame on the public's shoulders considering this choice they're faced with is a bit harsh in my opinion.

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Postby Fred75 on Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:31 pm

ozi wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Don't FORCE the rest of us to pay just to make you feel better!


It isnt people forcing you to do anything,



Excuse me!!! where do you think the money for socialized medicine is going to come from??? The tooth Fairy?
They WILL tax us and YOU WILL go to jail if you do not pay those taxes!

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Postby ozi on Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:30 pm

Fred75 wrote:
Excuse me!!! where do you think the money for socialized medicine is going to come from???
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Responding to lena you wrote

Fred75 wrote:
Then truly be altruistic... give 20% of your pay to hospitals.
Don't FORCE the rest of us to pay just to make you feel better!
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which i thought seemed to imply that you thought the public (such as lena), were doing the forcing. So i pointed out that the public dont force anything.

Seems we're talking cross purposes and looking again maybe you were talking to the taxers rather than the people being taxed?

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Postby The Colonel on Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:34 pm

Fred is talking crap.

20% of income to fund hospitals? Bollocks.

20% of income in the UK funds our hospitals, schools, defence, police and so forth.

A world class nation, a world power, one of the biggest economies - and not 20% of income to fund hospitals.

It does prove one thing - Americans are far to greedy and not socially minded.

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Postby H. Franklin Layne on Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:48 am

The Colonel wrote:Fred is talking crap.

20% of income to fund hospitals? Bollocks.

20% of income in the UK funds our hospitals, schools, defence, police and so forth.

A world class nation, a world power, one of the biggest economies - and not 20% of income to fund hospitals.

It does prove one thing - Americans are far to greedy and not socially minded.


Not ALL Americans, sir!

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Postby Fred75 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:30 pm

ozi wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Excuse me!!! where do you think the money for socialized medicine is going to come from???
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Responding to lena you wrote

Fred75 wrote:
Then truly be altruistic... give 20% of your pay to hospitals.
Don't FORCE the rest of us to pay just to make you feel better!
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which i thought seemed to imply that you thought the public (such as lena), were doing the forcing. So i pointed out that the public dont force anything.

Seems we're talking cross purposes and looking again maybe you were talking to the taxers rather than the people being taxed?


Correct.

And I just threw out that 20% for Lena to give, since she wants to be so charitable.
I meant not to imply that's what my taxes will increase by.
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Postby Fred75 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:34 pm

The Colonel wrote:
It does prove one thing - Americans are far to greedy and not socially minded.


Were a democracy of independent ADULTS.
Not children of a nanny state like you.
I'd like to keep it that way so we donut have a generation of pansies like you.
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Postby Fred75 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:34 pm

Speaking of pansies... I noticed none of you voted!
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Postby ILWL on Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:23 pm

Fred75 wrote:Speaking of pansies... I noticed none of you voted!


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