Evangelicism, synonymous with fascism

[GayandProud]

You're in law school?

Take my advice: don't do it.

Lawyers, at least American lawyers, have among the highest rates of alcohol and substance abuse of all the professions.

And I'm one of the reasons the rates are so high.

You NUT! It's not because of the profession. It may have something to do with the income that affords you to those 10 martini lunches. In the 80's, the lawyer's always had the best drugs . . . even better than musicians. Too much moola + too much free time + a playful personality equals = substance abuse no matter what.

I won't dispute that I'm a nut, but I disagree that income is the reason lawyers have the highest rate of alcohol and substance abuse of all the professions. Investment bankers and bond traders have higher incomes than lawyers, yet they have lower rates of alcohol and substance abuse. I believe the main reasons are constant pressure, long hours and monotony -- though not in my case.

I've been a litigator for 20 years now, specializing in commercial, admiralty and construction disputes. To be honest, litigation does make and keep one's mind sharp and one's speech precise. My specialties have also required that I become well-versed in fields unrelated to law (e.g., engineering, medicine, naval and civil architecture, hydrodynamics, building construction, metallurgy, chemistry) in order to cross-examine at trial expert witnesses in specific areas of those fields.

So I know a lot about a lot of fields, which is cool. But much of this knowledge is useless after the case ends. Unfortunately, the human brain is not like a computer. You can't delete selected files and folders that you no longer need. My brain is now cluttered with useless knowledge. This is a burden.

For example, about 15 years ago I tried an admiralty case involving damage to a massive shipment of avocados that the cargo vessel did not properly refrigerate during the ocean voyage. The key issues were whether discoloration of the avocado evidences spoilage (which it does not) and whether an unspoiled but discolored avocado is unmarketable for making guacamole. The other side retained an agricultural expert specializing in avocados. In order to cross-examine the expert at trial, I had to learn everything about the avocado. And I mean everything. This knowledge has been useless in the 15 years since that case ended. Yet I still know everything about the F****** avocado -- but I can't make guacamole.

The only methods I know of to delete useless "files and folders" stored in the human brain are drugs and alcohol. And the process is very enjoyable. But these methods are not selective. They delete some good files too.

you see now this is the myron I cam relate to,.

not the bible thumping myron in JFM

[myron myron]

Same myron, dude -- I never promised you a rose garden.

[ZiaAries]

I've never noticed you thumping the Bible Myron.

The person under "guest" down there in JFM that tries to betray himself as a religious know-it-all sure doesn't write like a person that follows the message of Christ. I'm not implying it's Myron by no means. Whoever is doing a disservice to the faith.

[myron myron]

I've never noticed you thumping the Bible Myron.

The person under "guest" down there in JFM that tries to betray himself as a religious know-it-all sure doesn't write like a person that follows the message of Christ. I'm not implying it's Myron by no means. Whoever is doing a disservice to the faith.

G&P is not suggesting that I am "bible thumping" in JFM under some other name; he is referring to my posts under my member name.

I don't push my religion on anyone; nor do I pass moral judgement on those who don't share my beliefs. I live and let live. I don't contend my religion is fact. I openly admit that I have no evidence proving God exists and that my religious beliefs are based on faith.

I posted that, while I disagree, I can accept why an agnostic doubts the existence of God absent evidence. But I cannot accept the non-existence of God as a proven fact absent affirmative evidence that God does not exist because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

But to some members who post in JFM, that's not enough. They mock and insult anyone who believes in God as an idiot or "intellectually dishonest."

Here is a very small sampling of the content of post after post and thread after thread in JFM -- by members:

I have, and will, be bigotted towards religion.

Religion should not be respected nor tolerated for its bad reasons.

It must be destroyed.

I hate Christians and Christianity.

God raped Mary, she did not consent to intercourse,

Mary gave birth to a b***** child,

I think "Xmas" is a fantastic way to describe the season.

CROSS OUT CHRIST!

Happy Xmas all you "christians".

Oh yes, the bible.

Some freak with long hair that popped out of a virgin bitch in a barn full of donkey S*** and hung about with 12 men and a prostitute.

If defending my religion in a civil manner against such intolerance and hatred means I am "bible thumping," then I am guilty as charged.

And why do the same members who brag about their bigotry in JFM show a different face when posting about the same subjects in the Members sections?

[ZiaAries]

G&P is not suggesting that I am "bible thumping" in JFM under some other name; he is referring to my posts under my member name.

No, I didn't think he was either. I was only making note of my observation of some nastiness in JFM regards to "Bible thumping".

In regards to the quotes that you posted above, my personal belief is they haven't really met any one that sincerely practices the true Christian faith.

And good for you, you should defend your faith. How can someone expect us to respect what they believe when they won't give you the same?

[The Colonel]

I've never noticed you thumping the Bible Myron.

The person under "guest" down there in JFM that tries to betray himself as a religious know-it-all sure doesn't write like a person that follows the message of Christ. I'm not implying it's Myron by no means. Whoever is doing a disservice to the faith.

G&P is not suggesting that I am "bible thumping" in JFM under some other name; he is referring to my posts under my member name.

I don't push my religion on anyone; nor do I pass moral judgement on those who don't share my beliefs. I live and let live. I don't contend my religion is fact. I openly admit that I have no evidence proving God exists and that my religious beliefs are based on faith.

I posted that, while I disagree, I can accept why an agnostic doubts the existence of God absent evidence. But I cannot accept the non-existence of God as a proven fact absent affirmative evidence that God does not exist because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

But to some members who post in JFM, that's not enough. They mock and insult anyone who believes in God as an idiot or "intellectually dishonest."

Here is a very small sampling of the content of post after post and thread after thread in JFM -- by members:

I have, and will, be bigotted towards religion.

Religion should not be respected nor tolerated for its bad reasons.

It must be destroyed.

I hate Christians and Christianity.

God raped Mary, she did not consent to intercourse,

Mary gave birth to a b***** child,

I think "Xmas" is a fantastic way to describe the season.

CROSS OUT CHRIST!

Happy Xmas all you "christians".

Oh yes, the bible.

Some freak with long hair that popped out of a virgin bitch in a barn full of donkey S*** and hung about with 12 men and a prostitute.

If defending my religion in a civil manner against such intolerance and hatred means I am "bible thumping," then I am guilty as charged.

And why do the same members who brag about their bigotry in JFM show a different face when posting about the same subjects in the Members sections?

Since you can't prove any of it is truthful - live with it.

There is a bit too much "because god says so" nowadays - people do not accept that and refuse to believe in "absolute truth".

Your text claims the Earth is something around 40,000-10,000 years old, when science proves it is billions of years old. Some truth huh?

When asked about the dinosaurs, one religious nut explained their existence as "they were put there by god to test my faith".

And you wonder why people bash religion?

You also argued with me about the bible and slavery. OK, so, its possible it could have been interpreted out of context by me and those that advocated slavery...but if that is so...why isn't Leviticus with regard to homosexuality for example...also not out of context?

The religious have a habit of quoting what they like and making it up as they go along. They are happy to eat shellfish, wear garments of two different materials and cut their hair - all prohibited by Leviticus, but not to accept that one of those passages is out of context with the rest of them?

Atheists are not the intolerant ones. We happen to want a peaceful world free of such nonsense.

[myron myron]

Your so-called "tolerance" is amply evidenced by your own posted words.

Atheists as a group are not intolerant or bigoted; you just happen to be an intolerant, bigoted atheist.

Every group has its bigots.

[GayandProud]

anybody want a bagel?

[myron myron]

I'll take a toasted "everything" bagel (freshly made) with a schmear, a generous amount of Nova slices and a thick slice of Bermuda onion.

[The Colonel]

Your so-called "tolerance" is amply evidenced by your own posted words.

Atheists as a group are not intolerant or bigoted; you just happen to be an intolerant, bigoted atheist.

Every group has its bigots.

Bigot

[myron myron]

Remember these posts?

I have, and will, be bigotted towards religion.

Religion should not be respected nor tolerated for its bad reasons.

It must be destroyed.

God raped Mary, she did not consent to intercourse,

Mary gave birth to a b***** child,

I think "Xmas" is a fantastic way to describe the season.

CROSS OUT CHRIST!

Happy Xmas all you "christians".

Oh yes, the bible.

Some freak with long hair that popped out of a virgin bitch in a barn full of donkey S*** and hung about with 12 men and a prostitute.

Who is the bigot, Colonel?

That would be you.

[The Colonel]

Remember these posts?

I have, and will, be bigotted towards religion.

Religion should not be respected nor tolerated for its bad reasons.

It must be destroyed.

God raped Mary, she did not consent to intercourse,

Mary gave birth to a b***** child,

I think "Xmas" is a fantastic way to describe the season.

CROSS OUT CHRIST!

Happy Xmas all you "christians".

Oh yes, the bible.

Some freak with long hair that popped out of a virgin bitch in a barn full of donkey S*** and hung about with 12 men and a prostitute.

Who is the bigot, Colonel?

That would be you.

Bigotry towards mythology is not bigotry but common sense.

I stand by every word.

[myron myron]

Bigotry is bigotry.

[The Colonel]

Bigotry is bigotry.

You cannot be a bigot to mythology.

[cosmicB]

I'm seeing three against one...


...So I'm gonna bounce a post into this thread, to piss off a few, and to give the thread a little kick in the butt.. to rock its boat just a little, then leave...



Quoting: "You cannot be a bigot to mythology".


Just for a calm silent moment.. wonder, "How does Mythology feel about that?"..
Like in, "how can a warthog like the sight of another warthog, when we find them so ugly and disgusting..?

Please bear-on without freaking... Take this stuff with the proverbial "grain of salt".. Make grumpies later.. after you get through it...

We are getting most of our new science and technologies from mythology, these days... Maybe there's good and bad in mythology, like there's a little good and bad in just about everything... If there's any good in it, then lets taste it, and test it, before we toss it out...

It's like in "Nudity"... Nudity has its goods and its bads... One of the goods being the human body... To me Woman! is the most beautiful valuable delicious item in the Whole universe, and beyond... especially you... Your problem, and mine, is you don't know you're an angel with a broken wing... I try to splint it, and you bite me right to the bone... "ouch.. and oops..."

Without a little nudity very few would make babies... If there wasn't any nudity, I would suicide... Naked ladies are my salvation.. plus, I take my vitamins...
Thank goodness I can gently slide the covers off of my mate to see and touch delicious nudity... It makes me feel home when nothing else on this world does...

Mythology may contain some seriously goofy stuff.. but it also contains all the new stuff our minds are made up of, and evolve into, which our species is supposed to develop into...

Our educational and religious systems teach us to fear everything about mythology, so we won't become smart, and see the masters as they really are... so we will continue serving their lives till we die, and other slaves, our children, take our place serving the evil system...

Even when a little feller like me comes along, and tells you all there be more than what we thought.. and allow me show you some of it by teaching you a few of the basics of these lovely human abilities.. so you'all can have some fun too...

It's just that it's so darn incomprehensible to your physical acceptance layer, that to you it seems "mythological".. when it's essentially what you are that you don't know you are... I'm trying to give humanity the greatest gift I can think of.. and you do what you do, only too well.. Trying to teach you critters anything is like "sticking ones hand into the piranha pond"...

Can we try something a little different, for a pleasant change...
Without the bullies entering into the discussion.. for at least the first 20-posts the bullies stay out... After twenty posts, then the bullies can burn and eat the thread... You'll all learn a lot... and maybe after twenty posts you can have a huge flame war.. till the forum deletes the thread, or buries it... or not..?


Topic: "Define Humanity".. by defining its personality, and its spirit... But not defining it by anything physical...

Have a go at this extremely controversial topic.. and you might even get something out of it...

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What would be real dandy right now is if the most intelligent person in all of the UK, posted a definition of humanity...
And even if it grates me, I'll try to stay out, unless I'm invited by at least two participants... deal?..