Fred75 wrote:Gay marriage is a cornerstone for validating them as a family unit.
Which opens the door to saying they are equals to hetero family units and are equal PARENTS.
Does that then mean a child has no RIGHT to both a mother and father to raise him?
Lesbian parents for example... It takes a MAN to raise a boy to be a MAN.
Who is going to do that for a boy?
How does a small boy learn from two women how to love a wife like a man does?
Basically... gay marriage puts the rights of the PARENT before the child.
And that's wrong.
Which opens the door to saying they are equals to hetero family units and are equal PARENTS.
Cambridge wrote:Fred75 wrote:Gay marriage is a cornerstone for validating them as a family unit.
Which opens the door to saying they are equals to hetero family units and are equal PARENTS.
Does that then mean a child has no RIGHT to both a mother and father to raise him?
Lesbian parents for example... It takes a MAN to raise a boy to be a MAN.
Who is going to do that for a boy?
How does a small boy learn from two women how to love a wife like a man does?
Basically... gay marriage puts the rights of the PARENT before the child.
And that's wrong.
Which opens the door to saying they are equals to hetero family units and are equal PARENTS.
Donât you think they are, or should be equals?
They are not equals. Two of the same sex do not bring the diversity needed for a normal child to love and live with the opposite sex.
Two women cannot raise a boy to be a MAN.
I'm trying to follow your logic and I'm stumped right here.
I disagree with many of your other assumptions, too. The concept of ârightsâ is overused in the US. It can mean anything you want. The issue isnât rights, but the needs of the child. At least, thatâs the standard the courts useâŚthe âwellbeingâ of the child.
Correct. That wellbeing being how the majority of the world does it... with a father and mother.
Where do you find the right âto both a mother and father to raise him? [sic]â Itâs not in the US Constitution. It seems to me that a gay couple offers to serve the âwellbeingâ of a child better than a single parent, who actually is only one. I know from your other posts that youâre not fond of that circumstance either; but thatâs not a gay issue.
No. It's the issue that a single parent is a broken home/ flawed family to begin with.
So never justify gay parents over a "broken" model.
JUSTIFY gay parents over the GOLD STANDARD of a good home and you have
Hairy back, stop capitalizing the word âmanâ as if that somehow enhancesâŚwhat? His status. His virility? Are we glorifying testosterone?If anyone, male for female, doesnât have it, capitalizing a pronoun wonât give it to him or her.
More directly to the point, I know a number of lesbians who would provide a fine role model to a young boy. It does not necessarily take a man to raise a boy to be a man.
Yes it does.
Women cannot raise a boy to be a man.
That takes a man to do.
If women did it properly the statisitics of men in prison from broken homes would be identical to those from good homes.
As it is, I believe, some 80% of prisoners are from broken homes.
As for teaching him âhow to love a wife,â judging by what I see around me the man is not quite the teacher you think he is, eh?
Feminist's ruined it for women.
Men now get to treat women just like other men...IE... you have to earn respect form men... and women fail in that department when the sleep around like ho's.
They are not equals. Two of the same sex do not bring the diversity needed for a normal child to love and live with the opposite sex.
Two women cannot raise a boy to be a MAN.
Correct. That wellbeing being how the majority of the world does it... with a father and mother.
No. It's the issue that a single parent is a broken home/ flawed family to begin with.
So never justify gay parents over a "broken" model.
JUSTIFY gay parents over the GOLD STANDARD of a good home and you have
Yes it does.
Women cannot raise a boy to be a man.
That takes a man to do.
If women did it properly the statisitics of men in prison from broken homes would be identical to those from good homes.
As it is, I believe, some 80% of prisoners are from broken homes.
Feminist's ruined it for women.
Men now get to treat women just like other men...IE... you have to earn respect form men... and women fail in that department when the sleep around like ho's.
Cambridge wrote:They are not equals. Two of the same sex do not bring the diversity needed for a normal child to love and live with the opposite sex.
Two women cannot raise a boy to be a MAN.
Bull Sh**!
At least give a logical reason like I did.Correct. That wellbeing being how the majority of the world does it... with a father and mother.
Horse Sh**! The majority of the world once believed the earth was flat. They were wrong, werenât they?
So what's right then?No. It's the issue that a single parent is a broken home/ flawed family to begin with.
So never justify gay parents over a "broken" model.
JUSTIFY gay parents over the GOLD STANDARD of a good home and you have
âŚyou have more Bull Sh**âŚGold starndard of a good homeâŚmore of your horse sh**.
At least give a logical reason like I did.Yes it does.
Women cannot raise a boy to be a man.
That takes a man to do.
Bull Sh**! At least give a logical reason like I did.If women did it properly the statisitics of men in prison from broken homes would be identical to those from good homes.
As it is, I believe, some 80% of prisoners are from broken homes.
Do you have any proof of this correlation? How do you distinguish between broken homes headed by fathers and broken homes headed by mothers. How about race?
Because mothers, typically, end up with the children.
Even if you had the correlations, you have no proof that they prove causation. It could be a specious cross-tabulationâŚsomething caused by something behind the primary variableâŚlike poverty, for example. More horse sh**, hairy back.
So poverty is now a character flaw?Feminist's ruined it for women.
Men now get to treat women just like other men...IE... you have to earn respect form men... and women fail in that department when the sleep around like ho's.
And finally, bull sh**. Okay, thatâs all you have to show? Nothing but bull sh** and horse sh**? Well, come back when youâve got something.![]()
Sharon den Adel wrote:Don't listen to Fred, he knows nothing about anything, nothing at all.
Gay people (including myself) should be allowed to marry, as there is no reason why they should not have that right.
Fred75 wrote:Sharon den Adel wrote:Don't listen to Fred, he knows nothing about anything, nothing at all.
Gay people (including myself) should be allowed to marry, as there is no reason why they should not have that right.
Then theres also no reason why a man cant marry a goat.
The Chairman wrote:Fred75 wrote:Sharon den Adel wrote:Don't listen to Fred, he knows nothing about anything, nothing at all.
Gay people (including myself) should be allowed to marry, as there is no reason why they should not have that right.
Then theres also no reason why a man cant marry a goat.
In Sudan a man married a goat because he was caught having sex with it! The village elders saw it as a fit form of punishment...
Fred75 wrote:Cambridge wrote:They are not equals. Two of the same sex do not bring the diversity needed for a normal child to love and live with the opposite sex.
Two women cannot raise a boy to be a MAN.
Bull Sh**!
At least give a logical reason like I did.Correct. That wellbeing being how the majority of the world does it... with a father and mother.
Horse Sh**! The majority of the world once believed the earth was flat. They were wrong, werenât they?
So what's right then?No. It's the issue that a single parent is a broken home/ flawed family to begin with.
So never justify gay parents over a "broken" model.
JUSTIFY gay parents over the GOLD STANDARD of a good home and you have
âŚyou have more Bull Sh**âŚGold starndard of a good homeâŚmore of your horse sh**.
At least give a logical reason like I did.Yes it does.
Women cannot raise a boy to be a man.
That takes a man to do.
Bull Sh**! At least give a logical reason like I did.If women did it properly the statisitics of men in prison from broken homes would be identical to those from good homes.
As it is, I believe, some 80% of prisoners are from broken homes.
Do you have any proof of this correlation? How do you distinguish between broken homes headed by fathers and broken homes headed by mothers. How about race?
Because mothers, typically, end up with the children.
Even if you had the correlations, you have no proof that they prove causation. It could be a specious cross-tabulationâŚsomething caused by something behind the primary variableâŚlike poverty, for example. More horse sh**, hairy back.
So poverty is now a character flaw?Feminist's ruined it for women.
Men now get to treat women just like other men...IE... you have to earn respect form men... and women fail in that department when the sleep around like ho's.
And finally, bull sh**. Okay, thatâs all you have to show? Nothing but bull sh** and horse sh**? Well, come back when youâve got something.![]()
So what's right then?
Restated for three times; single response:At least give a logical reason like I did.
Because mothers, typically, end up with the children.
So poverty is now a character flaw?
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