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Postby Guest on Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:40 pm

. wrote:Why do idiots like yourself keep advertising on here. Its supposed to be a topic that we discuss not people like you constantly advertising. I certainly would not let you touch my hair as your ad is very misleading and again no hair extensions should be left in the hair longer than 12 weeks.


Firstly, Im not an idiot, I didnt realise there was a rule against advertising on the forum. Secondly I am fully qualified and Insured to Apply and Maintain Hair Extensions so there is no reason why I cant work on anybodys hair ( unless they are unsuitable for extensions). I apologise if my post was misleading, but the Balmain hair is Guarenteed for 6 months. and i also offer FREE removal after 3 months as I am fully aware the extensions should not be in the hair longer than this. Thank You x

lynniexx
 

Postby lynniexx on Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:32 pm

Idiots guide to message forums?

Read the rules when you join or before you post that is what most people do before posting on any message boards!!

You are an idiot as you did not read the rules or did you and thought you would ignore them?

Guest
 

Postby Guest on Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:33 pm

I think your email states it all your an 'idiot' aswell, anybody who would ring you or even contact you must either be desperate or stupid. Get a life you sad freak and leave the hair extension threads to serious posters.

Guest
 

Postby Guest on Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:38 am

so mrs balmain hair extensions which method is it you use then? if it is the balmain double hair am i not correct in saying that they need to be repositioned every 8 weeks? and also balmain only guarentees the hair for 6 months if you use their hair care products which i bet come at a nice price aswell. Go and tout for buisness somewhere else.

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Postby Guest on Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:55 am

. wrote:so mrs balmain hair extensions which method is it you use then? if it is the balmain double hair am i not correct in saying that they need to be repositioned every 8 weeks? and also balmain only guarentees the hair for 6 months if you use their hair care products which i bet come at a nice price aswell. Go and tout for buisness somewhere else.


I dont use double hair i use Balmain single strands. and I supply a free aftercare pack including the shampoo, conditioner and brush thanks. why no objection to the other advertisement after mine??

gemz
 

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Postby gemz on Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:46 pm

Hi,

I'm thinking about having hair extensions but not sure how much they would damage my own hair, my hair is bleached blonde but in good condition. I need some advice

lovelorn
 

Having Blonde Hair Extensions 'Advice'!! FWIW

Postby lovelorn on Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:30 pm

Hi there

I've had extensions on and off (recently more ON than off) and if you have bleached hair, you'll need lightened hair. If you buy bleached 'extensions' they WILL be fragile!

Also, bleached hair WILL break more easily than un bleached (TRUST me, I'm a redhead who bleaches and YES I regret it but I can't stop now!).

For me, the most important thing in hair extensions is 'SIGN a contract' so you know what you're getting! Don't get hair in LARGE clumps, it will pull out your own. ONLY use an extensionist if you've seen PROOF of their work, you'd be AMAZED how many 'non' extensionists there are out there who can 'buy hair' and whack it on your head in an APPALLINGLY bad (unattractive and DAMAGING) way!

Finally, GO with your gut, IF it feels too good to be true, it IS!! If it feels dodgy or you feel bullied, say you need time to think, DOESN'T matter, once you're away, your hair is safely still on your head! AND, if you bleach and wear CERTAIN types of extensions (cheaper ones) you can't really bleach your roots whilst they're in, not without serious help or possible damage.

Could go on and on but thats for starters. Having said ALL that, I'm in LOVE with them.
My humble opinion, ANY quality hair, fitted WELL by a DECENT extensionist, treated with reasonable care, will last the full three months.

I've worn (and love) Great Lengths (long story, company paid for TOP extensionist, when one of their 'qualified' extensionists mixed plastic blondes with GL hair, to save herself money, SERIOUSLY. She lost her Great Lengths license and ability to buy their hair, had her name taken from their register and can't work for them any more)

Company arranged for me to go to a Chelsea Extensionist who would normally be WAY out of my price range and she did SUCH superb hair, no one knew it wasn't mine and I wore it for six months.....despite the roots!!) If you want photos to PROVE it, email me....the root growth is HUGE, but the hair is GORGEOUS....it DOES curl though, so if you're into dead straight, you WILL be ironing it out a FAIR bit, so again, if you're bleached.....ironing NOT so good every three or four days! I let it curl, LOVED it curly (first time I've loved my curls in my life!)

RIGHT, that's MORE than enough, hope it helps!

gemz
 

Postby gemz on Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:36 pm

Yeh that helps alot thanks, my hair is actually dead straight itself but I would absolutly love it to be curly so perhaps extensions could help with that too. I'm seeing someone for a consultation this week, we're gonna go through the different methods which may be good for my hair, as you seem to have some expererience of wearing hair extensions which way do you think is the best?

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Postby Guest on Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:52 pm

If your looking for good quality hair then try the Bohyme by Celebrity Elite you wont be disappointed as its the best hair around. If you shop around you can get some good prices.

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Postby Guest on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:24 pm

gemz wrote:Yeh that helps alot thanks, my hair is actually dead straight itself but I would absolutly love it to be curly so perhaps extensions could help with that too. I'm seeing someone for a consultation this week, we're gonna go through the different methods which may be good for my hair, as you seem to have some expererience of wearing hair extensions which way do you think is the best?


Hi, well I'm glad to have been of some help!

Since you have STRAIGHT hair, you have a SLIGHT advantage, in that you CAN wear hair that has been slightly more PROCESSED, as the processing (treatment the hair has before it gets to you) causes it to lose most of its natural 'curly hair like behaviour'

This is assuming it was curly or wavy hair in the FIRST place, which HUGE amounts of extension hair will be. I've mostly come across (what I now know to be) Indian, or sometimes European, both are thick and wavy, so, as far as waving and curling are concerned, unless you have the cheaper hair permed, I just don't think it can be done without the same kind of damage you'd get from heavily bleaching and then perming of normal hair! Plus, what people DON'T tell you, is that once the hair is REMOVED from the head, the natural oils from the head are no longer 'protecting it' so it will need treating. THAT means you have to be careful which method you chose as LOTS of 'bonds' (all are some form of wax, glue, or glue/keratin/polymer mixture ALL of them...without the glue, bonded hair won't last at ALL, but the concentration of the glue is what makes the difference between soggy weak bonds and super hard ones that crack and spike you in the back of the head!)

ANY method that uses no 'bond', that uses tubes with loose hair, will shed more than bonded hair. This is not propaganda, it is fact. There ARE some new 'innovations' that coil as the hair sheds so that the extension hair will not ALL fall out, but again, I know insufficient to advise, I'm sure you'll get LOTS more advise on this board, there may even be people offering to do it!!

DON'T be tempted to go for the stick on to the skin, they'll fall OFF the skin, and they don't move the same way as tiny bonded pieces of hair.

FUSION (the brand, not the 'generalisation' of the word....is super pricey) haven't had it, but the idea is EXCELLENT, but you need a 2nd mortgage and 3 days, as they apply hairs literally sometimes as few as 1 at a time! There are methods of fusion that do larger amounts, but then, you're back to 'small bonds' and may as well go with normal 'bonded' hair! :-)

BUT, if you want natural looking curls, (and I don't know HOW that would really work with your own straight hair unless its very short, like three inches long or so....unless you have a perm too?!...but there may be hairdressers on here who can tell you that?!).... the only hair I KNOW that curls very naturally, is hair by Great Lengths.

Having said that, IF there is someone here, who knows where to get UNSTRIPPED, naturally curly/wavy GENUINE remi hair, with a keratin polymer....I'd give my right arm to find them!!! Then all I need is an extensionist as mine is booked UP for 8 weeks and I can't wear these that long without loosing hair!

I'm sure there MUST be other makes of hair THAN Great Lengths using Remy/Remi hair (french word, comes from their 'wig making' culture, where the BEST wigs had human hair, taken from, preferably, only one or two heads, and made without turning any of the hair upside down, so all the hair was still in its natural direction....that's what REAL Remy/Remi hair means....lots of people will claim to have REMI hair but it may not be, there is no way to tell, unless you've got access to the manufacturers info and most hair is imported and much now bought on the internet, again, its down to the honesty of the extensionist and their prices. You WON'T get long (over 18") remi hair on 3/4 of your head for less than £350 unless someone REALLY loves you!!!!)

Then, there is the colouring method. Blonde hair is bleached HEAVILY (even GL hair has the colour removed. They claim to 'soak it out' and then 'soak it in' and it stayed COLOURFAST for 6 months for me, but I don't know if other hair brands would do this too, I've never worn any extension hair that long, EXCEPT for GL, but people on here can give you a better opinion on how long the colour lasts on other brands)

I'm not going to slate them, but some 'Racoon' (NEW 100% human, not the old mix) DOES fade and matt as its quality isn't the same. I also think its applied with glue and not pre bonded, which can mean uneven bonds and uneven hair!

Most companies 'colour treat' the hair. This is where the hair manufacturer literally bleaches out the colour using fairly strong chemicals) then colours it as required...in varying shades of blonde etc.! You can imagine how much BLEACHING is required to make indian hair blonde!!!?!

The reason its not good to have bleached hair or hair without cuticle (where the colour is stripped SO heavily, that the top layer of the hair is removed....which they then coat in some 'shiny' stuff, usually silicone, which washes off after two or three washes and looks AWFUL!) or non remi hair (remi hair means the cuticle of the hair all goes in one direction as in the wig making I mentioned, sorry to repeat myself!) .... but if its NOT remi hair, when you brush it, the hair is literally back combed and this damages it VERY fast!)

I personally HAVEN'T tried the 'springs' (little coils, or shrinking bonds that are applied with OR without glue to the top of the bond on the hair) but ANYTHING sharp that's TIGHT on your hair WILL cut into your own hair. The metal rings have SHAWN right through some peoples hair, so if you bleach, which weakens the hair, that's a NO GO too...sorry!!! But, better to know NOW than to have hair sliced off at the roots (trust me!)

So, again, VERY best of luck with your new hair........DON'T be bullied.......ask the hairdresser HOW long they've done THIS method and ask to see a portfolio....don't be embarrassed to ask for details of a couple of current clients (if the extensionist is good, they'll have LOTS of clients only too willing to tell you....word of mouth is the BEST way to find a good extensionist, but STILL be wary....I have AWFUL extensions, as my 'European friend' with her thick blonde hair had SUPERB cheaper than GL extensions, so I tried them and they're WAY too heavy for my hair and need to come out......18 inches of BEAUTIFUL human REMI hair and its pulling out my own.......

BORING rule of thumb......measure from the top of the bottom layer of hair to the ends, and unless your hair is THICK and strong, don't go more than double the length of your own........that's what the hairdressers say!!!!

I've waffled on enough to bore the PANTS off those still reading!!

I know its disorganised, but I hope some of the info here helps....its accumulated through experience and SERIOUS study over 20 years......(well 19, when I had the first 'Caucasian' style extensions put in, in Sutton, by a 'goth'......JET black........and plastic.......melted over a plait and then 'cracked' to remove it........PHEW, we've come a long way at least!!!

BEST of luck to all........anyone can help ME.......looking for a mobile, OR London based extensionist who already KNOWS everything I've just written (no learning it and reading it back to me.....grin...I'll KNOW!!!) I REALLY need replacement REMI CUTICLE hair........BLONDE, unbleached if poss..........14, 16 and 18 inches (I have a layer cut, works better with curls or waves.....) for an ex redhead/strawberry blonde........

THANKS!!!!

Lovelorn_angel
....search for me on Google and you'll eventually find my pic ....probably wearing extensions in it........somewhere!!!! HONEST!!!

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Postby Guest on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:27 pm

para two...........lots of bonds....(waffle......hair....oils)...end brackets....should then say.......will crack if not treated properly....or go soggy if oiled........!!!!

I expect they'll be more corrections to my above post.....I DID proofread but even I get tired of reading my own lengthy posts!!! SORRY....

Lovelorn_angel

London

:lol:

XxXxBlondeexXxX
 

Postby XxXxBlondeexXxX on Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:07 pm

I am dying to get extensions after having my hair cut to shoulder length all it does it flick out at the ends even a few minutes after straightening, & basically looks terrible all the time, however i am a bleach blonde too & i bleach it reeeeally light. My regular hairdresser who cuts & colours it does extensions & has done for a long time, i know her & i've seen her clients with extensions & they look good, however she has quoted me £350 - £400 for what i want & i just don't have that kind of money at the moment. She uses Racoon & theres so many negative things said about them, I'm scared my hair is going to split at the root, & i don't want to save all that money to ruin my already awful hair! I just want my long straight hair back, & also for it to be a little thicker as my hair feels quite fine. I know someone who isn't qualified who will do it for £70 with human hair, i have seen 3 people she's done it on & they look good, however these are glued in a long line in 3 different layers, which is completely different to the Raccoon ones my stylist does, so i couldnt do the underneath of my roots or tie it in a ponytail etc, but i'm thinking aren't these better for your hair because they aren't pulling on every bit of your hair like they are when the strands are glued with the Raccoon ones. I don't know what to do cos i could get those done next week, but if i get the raccoon ones i will be saving for ages. I would really appreciate some good advice from people with years of experience of having hair extensions, as i know rushing in to the wrong decision could lead to deep regret.

thanks for reading

michelle.henderson
 

is this an advertising forum?

Postby michelle.henderson on Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:40 am

Right! lets talk about your issues - as opposed to advertising my own services! lol!

As much as your traumatised by your current hair, just remember hair extensions may be a quick fix for you..... will they really take away your hatred for your hair? or will they hide it? I always like to inform my clients of the psychological side to hair extensions! you sound so desperate, and just want it done! don't rush into it..... do research - don't act impulsively! if you get frustrated buy a wig, or purchase some temporary clip ins.


To be completely honest 350-400 is very CHEAP for racoon extensions. it sounds like she may have quoted you for a half head? if she included after care and cutting etc etc, it sounds like a very good deal for authentic racoon.

Racoon uses very good quality hair, and the technique is brilliant. it minimises weight on your own hair, and matches it strand for strand. Don't be fooled into 'pre bonded' extensions which are all uniform in the amount of hair used. This type of extension leads to damage in the long run, as you can't control the weight distribution. For example, where your hair is finer on one side to another, the extensions need to reflect this.

The problem with racoon is more the adhesive, it goes soggy quite quickly. The problem with this is that you tend to play with the bonds, allowing pressure to be placed on your own hair.


The £70 option sounds a little concerning, as generally this type of application doens't last as long. Which means in the long run, you would proabaly spend near enough the same amount. Also the hair will obviously have to be a lot cheaper ( otherwise there is no money to be made!), At least with Racoon you can re use the hair, so next time your costs are not as much. Also these 'glue in weft' methods put more pressure on your hair, as they are attached to a wider section of hair. It doesn't allow for any natural hair mobility what so ever - hence why they generally aren't in as long, and you struggle to tie them up. I also feel they don't look as natural.

Before everyone adds their 10 pence, I just want to add that I am not a Racoon ectensionist - so i am not biased. I did one of my training courses with them, however I CHOOSE not to use their products.

Hope this helps! Lots of people will tell you different things! I would personally go for lots of consultations with different stylists - and trust your gut feeling. You will learn a lot about someone after speaking to them for 10 mins - in person.

michelle.henderson
 

Postby michelle.henderson on Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:41 am

next time I am using spell check! lol

xxinfoxx
 

Postby xxinfoxx on Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:59 pm

I think the response that Michelle Henderson has given says it all, a professional response.

Why is it that when anyone on this forum asks questions people have to give there email or web addresses to say 'hey contact me'!!!

As for the usual culprits on this forum and about three posts higher than this they are the usual repetitive advertisers who say that they are the best on here.

Forget them do your research and find the best method of install to suit you.

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