High Heel Shoes for Metrosexual Men?

[Fe-male]

But a man in a dress trying to pass as a woman isn't a metrosexual man. A metrosexual man is a man who takes a lot of pride in his appearance, not a man who wants to pass as a woman. You keep moving the goal posts to suit your case.

See the subject, that's your subject not ours. Not TG/TV/TS men. Metrosexual men. That is men being men. Why would the wear heels?

[Koichi Ito]

But a man in a dress trying to pass as a woman isn't a metrosexual man. A metrosexual man is a man who takes a lot of pride in his appearance, not a man who wants to pass as a woman. You keep moving the goal posts to suit your case.

See the subject, that's your subject not ours. Not TG/TV/TS men. Metrosexual men. That is men being men. Why would the wear heels?

This thing will change when Fashion Reformation or Fashion Civil Right Movement take place! In fact some Metrosexaul Men wears dress and high heel shoes. I think someone like Martin Luther or Martin King Jr. would be there to make fashion an Unisexual for good!

[Usquanigo]

But a man in a dress trying to pass as a woman isn't a metrosexual man. A metrosexual man is a man who takes a lot of pride in his appearance, not a man who wants to pass as a woman. You keep moving the goal posts to suit your case.

See the subject, that's your subject not ours. Not TG/TV/TS men. Metrosexual men. That is men being men. Why would the wear heels?

This thing will change when Fashion Reformation or Fashion Civil Right Movement take place! In fact some Metrosexaul Men wears dress and high heel shoes. I think someone like Martin Luther or Martin King Jr. would be there to make fashion an Unisexual for good!

omg.... Take your head out of your ass for 1 single second.

Terms have meaning, no matter what you want to beleive. Metrosexual is NOT what you are talking about. Fe-Male is correct, YOU are INCORRECT (that is to say - wrong!).

And stop trying to relate this crap to religious or racial freedom or equality. What kind of out of touch ego do you have? Can you really be that dense?

No amount of wishing, complaining, or hand-wringing will change this. Deal with it.

[Guest]

But a man in a dress trying to pass as a woman isn't a metrosexual man. A metrosexual man is a man who takes a lot of pride in his appearance, not a man who wants to pass as a woman. You keep moving the goal posts to suit your case.

See the subject, that's your subject not ours. Not TG/TV/TS men. Metrosexual men. That is men being men. Why would the wear heels?

This thing will change when Fashion Reformation or Fashion Civil Right Movement take place! In fact some Metrosexaul Men wears dress and high heel shoes. I think someone like Martin Luther or Martin King Jr. would be there to make fashion an Unisexual for good!

omg.... Take your head out of your ass for 1 single second.

Terms have meaning, no matter what you want to beleive. Metrosexual is NOT what you are talking about. Fe-Male is correct, YOU are INCORRECT (that is to say - wrong!).

And stop trying to relate this crap to religious or racial freedom or equality. What kind of out of touch ego do you have? Can you really be that dense?

No amount of wishing, complaining, or hand-wringing will change this. Deal with it.

I'm sorry, Usquanigo, but what are you so scared of that you have to angrily blast anyone who supports a more feminine look to men's fashion? I can understand that you're frustrated because you feel they are not getting what you're saying, but really...

The main problem with male clothing/fashion as I see it today is that it is all built on a brick frame mentality. At least in the mainstream. They are built in non-flattering styles that simply cover the body and do very little to accentuate. I mean, c'mon, who really needs a 10-12" rise on their jeans besides baggy clothing hip hop kids? Even low-rise men's jeans only go so far as 8". To get something more like a real low-rise, you'd have to spend several hundred bucks on a pair of Ruffskin or something (which a lot of those are plain obscene), or you can swing by the women's department in Wal-Mart and buy a pair of normal rise Faded Glory or No Boundaries for like 10-20 bucks to have a 6" rise. Hell, I only own 2 pairs of men's jeans at this point and that's just because I had them already and they cost $50-75 so I'm not throwing them out till they fall apart. I like the way they fit and look better than any men's jeans, and as a tall, slender male (I wear a 30/32 or 34 in men's or a size 5-7 long in women's), I think I should have that option if I choose without any ridicule for it.

Now the main topic of the thread started off with heels, but has gradually progressed into the same arguments that I see all over the internet about guys wearing women's clothes and such. I don't think there's anything wrong with men wearing anything they want as I stated before, but I will say that a lot of the time the ones you see should really rethink what they're wearing or how they're wearing it. Like if a 50 year old is going to go out in thigh-high 4" stiletto boots, he probably shouldn't be tucking his jeans into them as that just looks more like he's flaunting that he was brave enough to wear them rather than just wearing what he likes.

Now if you look here: http://stylebites.blogspot.com/2007/02/men-in-heels-next-big-thing.html there is a picture of what I would consider a metro-sexually dressed man wearing rather normal stiletto heels. I personally think that doesn't really look off or bad on him, but obviously opinions will vary.

I actually went out and bought a pair of stilettos rather similar to those in a size 11 just to see if it would look as good on me as I perceive them to look on him. I'm already 6', and 160lbs, but they didn't really feel awkward to wear, though they are a bit tighter than the bland old sneakers and dress shoes I'm used to. The thing that amazed me though, is that looking through the women's shoe section I had not realized the wealth of choice and style that they get even at a normal dept store.

There were 12 aisles of women's shoes and maybe 2 for men with a back row of work boots. I never really cared I guess because I was used to the stereotype that men's shoes were just crap to cover our feet. Looking at the women's shoes with an eye more for myself rather than just waiting for the GF to get a pair and get the hell out, I really began to understand why so many women fixate on all these shoes. So many that were similar with just a slight variation. Don't like the leather heels with the folded down flap on the sides? Two boxes over they make the same thing without them. Shoes that, while ignoring the heel, look and feel like they could be expensive men's dress shoes that costs a hundred dollars or more, are available in tons of styles for just 20-30 bucks a pair.

The really sad thing is, I recently bought a pair of men's leather ankle boots by Rockport for myself, and some of these shoes looked just as good if not better aside from the fact they were stilettos, but were 1/5th the price.

So the line of men wearing women's clothes and styles just really boils down to the fact that some of us have to either do that, or spend a fortune on the internet or in some trendy name store to buy something similar that is labeled as being for 'men' just to get what we feel is most flattering to us on our bodies. Hell those "Johnny boots" that were linked previously go for $500 and the only difference between those and the stilettos I bought from Wal-Mart for $20 is the style of heel (those are block heels, but still the same height of heel), and the squared toe vs the pointed toe.

Someone please explain to me why I should have to be financially bankrupt to have similar fashion options in "men's"?

So, Usquanigo, I ask why do you even care what other people choose to wear? And yes women do wear men's clothing all the time because I've had enough girlfriends raid my closet for my pants/shirts long before I even started buying or wearing women's jeans. My current one is actually the one who picked out my new jeans and I can't thank her enough for opening my eyes. Oddly, if she does steal my pants, she only steals the 2 men's jeans I still have now. She threw away most of the others because they simply were completely unflattering, which is the case with most male jeans.

Now, I know you might slam me for being an anon poster. Well, I googled a question about men/women fashion and got this thread as a result, and I doubt I'll be back for anything else so there's no need for me to bother with a useless UID and password that I'll never user again. My name is Justin and I'm from Kentucky...is that un-anon enough?

Anyway....just get over it man. You wear what you want, and others will wear what they want. Getting worked up over it just makes you look like a jerk and insecure in your own masculinity. They aren't hurting you.

That's really what the fight for equality here is about. If a woman can go out wearing baggy jeans and a wifebeater they stole from their man, why can't a guy similarly go out in tight jeans and a t-shirt? Me having women occasionally compliment me about the 'back view' in my women's jeans isn't hurting you, nor is the guy walking past you in the 5" spikes and a skirt. It's all just fabric and leather no different than what you're wearing, it's just cut differently to accentuate a different shape. Just like women, most men aren't shaped like | | after all, and not every guy wants wear pants where the rise either sits the waist of the pants on their navel, or puts the crotch of them between their knees, nor do they all want to wear the same old bland shoes for the rest of their life. I don't think I'm going to be going out and buying any other stilettos mind you, but I have noticed that in my 30 years on this Earth, most of my shoes have been basically bland variations on the same old crap.

[Guest from IL, US]

I happened to came across this thread much like the previous poster and was debating whether to bother taking the time to post a reply. The previous poster did it for me. I just want to say that I and many others agree 100% with what the previous poster expressed. Many men are discovering how great it is to actually look good instead of just simply existing.

I used to say to my wife that women look good while men just try to not look offensive. In the past year, thanks to me opening my eyes and being having the balls to investiagte what "women's" clothes and shoes make me look good, I've gone from non-offensive to actually looking and feeling good style-wise. I admit that women's clothes does not fit as perfectly as I'd like, they defnitely fit much better than the baggy, cover-up, utilitarian clothes being sold for men over the past 15 or so years.

[KiltyCol]

I think that men should be free to express themselves through fashion. Women have adopted many traditionally men's fashions, so why not men adopt what has been traditionally women's fashion. I don't include skirts here, as for thousands of years they were regarded as men's clothing.
I wouldn't personally wear high heels, as I like the youthful agility and balance that men's flattish heeled shoes give. Wear what you feel comfortable in.

[Poster]

WOMEN DO NOT WEAR PANTS

[loswabs]

MEN DO NOT WEAR HIGH HEELS

This man does, and his wife loves him in them too. I don't mind the fact you don't want to wear heels, or that you don't agree with me that I wear them. But let in go, eh? It's my choice, I'm hurting no one and dressing the way I want to please me. Not you. Open you mind and learn to accept other people's are allowed to live their lives thier way.

[KiltyCol]

MEN DO NOT WEAR HIGH HEELS

Are you impersonating Martin Caps Lock by any chance, Alf?

[KiltyCol]

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[sky_sissy]

i'd love to see some more shoe makers put more heels on male shoes! be fab. part from my obvious number of pairs of female heel shoes, i wouldn't mind a few inches in some boring male shoes to brighten up the times i can't go enfem. tried looking for some few months back, such small choice for shoes for men though! same as male clothing really. few racks compared to 3 times the amount of choice for women's. I think they could certainly "blur" the differences between what is considered "feminine" and "masculine", liven up people's appearances alittle

[shrimper]

You seem to have something of an obsession with high heeled shoes.

High heels on any man looks daft. "Metrosexual" is any male who is straight, AND cares about his appearance, putting time and effort into it. It does not mean guys who look gay or effeminate. By defintion, I would be a metro myself, but nothing about me is feminine.

As for heels.... "heels" are natural in that the foot wants to naturally rest in a position with the toes below the heel. LOW heels are comfortable, and possibly even better for you (that part is a guess though). But we already have that in our sneakers and boots and dress shoes. What we need is for that to transcend into sandals, so that they can be seen as more broadly acceptable (in buisness and such).

HIGH heels on the other hand, are uncomfortable, and unhealthy. They exist for ONE purpose, and one purpose ONLY - to complement the FEMALE PHYSIQUE. They lift the butt, and tighten the calves, while also jutting the chest forward. This looks good, but is torture on feet, and bad for the back and posture too. Long term it's very unhealthy all around.

On top of that, high heels limit mobility. That's a thing for women, part of their allure is their apparent vulnerability. Call that twisted if you like, but it's there - tight miniskirts that inhibit movement, shoes that are painful to walk on and prohibit running, tops and bras that just barely provide cover more or less requiring slow careful movements, and so on. It's more attractive than a girl in sneakers, jeans and a t-shirt (generally, there are always exceptions). That's part of what "feminine" is all about, the opposite of aggression and fighting. Something frail, vulnerable, yet also beautiful that demands attention, respect, and protection.

Most sandals and even dress shoes you can run in, flip-flops can be kicked off if need-be. But high heels will serve only to provide pain, damage your body, stress features of your body in ways they are not meant to be, and inhibit movement to the point of making you vulnerable to everything, as well as utterly useless at providing any protection for anyone (from the little old lady getting her purse snatched, to your date getting unwanted overly physical advances from some mook).

And that's without even getting into the social climate - you'd be shunned and ridiculed for sure (unless you hide them under super long pants, but you can never TRULY hide them).

Err.... You speak with great authority. The only problem is you don't know what the hell you're talking about!! You're only repeating all the anti- statements that have been repeatedly printed over the years that have nothing to do with men who love womens' shoes.

[nayomi2438]

All things including whether a man should wear items of clothing or shoes designed and marketed for women, is a matter of opinion and choice. Why are guys afraid to out into public cross dressed? Because they are aware of the reaction they will get from some. This could be a just few bad responses but it will feel like many to the individual. It is all in how much you are willing to handle.

As far as how shoes are designed, they are shoes! Not all women look good in heels just as not all heels look good on women - once again, my opinion. I find that not all shoes are comfortable on me. The fact they are or are not heels has nothing to do with it. Some men's flats are uncomfortable as heck and some women's heels are the most luscious feeling shoes I own. I have found it is all in the style and fit. Properly fit my 4 inch heels are great and I want to wear them to bed if they wouldn't snag the sheets.

I have about a dozen pairs of women's high heel shoes from pointed toe, t-straps, open toe, mary jane, ankle boots, and wedges. I have had to buy two or three pairs of each in most cases just to get the right fit. Now I have my favorites in all the right sizes. None of them hurt my feet and I have worn them out to clubs in summer and winter. My ankles and legs feel quite natural in high heels from 2.5 to 4 inches. Higher is a little tough to walk in. I find the wedges with a small platform to be the easiest to manage when walking long distances however I can move around pretty good in any of them. I do try to stay away from really skinny heels mainly because they get stuck in stuff.

Bottom line, society will not change it's perspective on what is appropriate attire until more people just simply do what they want. They question should not be "will it ever be accepted?" the question should be "do I want to be accepted." Wear what you want and society tolerate and then accept it. You will never be completely comfortable with yourself if you wait for society to accept it first!

I understand the fear of reprisal from neighbors, co-workers, a boss, or possible those you thought were your friends. It can be scary. I say make new friends and be happy with yourself. In this world you must learn to pay yourself first. You work hard and need to be happy and satisfied with your own soul before you worry about what others think. I spent 30 years of my life in the service this country and was willing to give my life in support of freedom and our right to freedom of expression and everything the constitution represents. Holding back and hiding your true self is a violation of your rights. Just do what you feel comfortable doing as long as you don't break the law. I don't think wearing clothing of any gender is a violation of law in this country - so, in my opinion, you look great in those high heels!

[guest645896845964]

Wow Usquanigo you're a F****** tool. You scream and swear with trying to make a point. Do you talk like that to real people in the real world. No, you wouldn't, because your head would be up your own ass if you did.

[darklink]

Wow. Some of you really need to get a life. You are so concerned with what you think is appropriate for men to wear that you have no concept of how big of a stooge you are. Look for all those that want to wear heels or earrings or whatever. Just do it. Don't wring your hands over it or tear yourself apart over it. Put it on and say to hell with what the small minded idiots think. That's what I do, and you know what? The only ones that comment are those with good things to say. Now if Alf, that little turd Usquanigo, or one of the other closeted windbags on here want to say something to me about it, I welcome them to do it to my face and not hiding behind a keyboard. I would be more than happy to give them a face first tour of their own colon. The fact of the matter is anyone can be tough and judgmental when they can hide behind an alias and a monitor. I live my life by my rules. I don't accept that anyone has the right to tell me what I can and cannot do so long as I am not hurting anyone or breaking the law. Do what you want.