How can lesbian parents make good parents?

[Guest]

What about the rights of the child? The child of any gay couple is going to have to face derision and mockery by other children at school.

Children are mocked for many things at school. Should we remove them to more socially acceptable parents? Maybe their Mom and or dad is too fat, ugly, poor. Maybe they are overly religous or hippies?

The point is, Are these people capable of providing a decent and stable home for a child? If the answer is yes then let them take care of the child. Their sexual practices shouldnt come into it unless you think heterosexual couples should also have their sexual practices heavily scrutinized?Maybe if you participate in Anal sex you will be ruled out of adopting? Who knows, that may lead to you having a gay sexual encounter one day?

Did you take your own child into the bedroom while engaging in sexual relations?No, of course not. Then stop being so naive to think that gay people would do this.

For some reason there are foolish people on here who think because someone is gay they are going to raise a gay child.

Sexual orientation is not a learned behaviour.

I am so truly shocked at the disgusting behaviour of people on this forum. Such bigotted and hateful views spewed up with such venom.

What type of people are you?
Do any of you have any good sense or understanding of homosexuality? Or child rearing and development?

I am shamed in belonging to the same race as these people who are so vile.

[Guest]

Yes Drinker

[noodles]

Noodles,

first I want to say that inglisch is not my first language and I use maybe words that are not correct to what I wanted to say.

And yes I know some very twisted lesbians and I heard them say to the daughter ( 7-8 years she had then )of a friend of me that you cant trust man and remarks like ''see, man are not nice'' stuff like that when we came in his room on visit. We all lived in a occupied hotel those days.
The story what he does in that place with his kids is a very hard, sad story and bit to personal to post public. (Would do it tru pm if I ever receive the activation code for my account, some email problem we have a lot in this house )
And always had the feeling when I did meet lesbains that if a look could kill I was 3 feet under already. I am a nice,honest hard working guy, I am hard headed ( I know that ) and always say what I think, if you like it or not against any one. Maybe that is a reason

What I mean with ''effect ways of making choices?'' is because of those remarks I heard, she is growing up and she hears stuff like that she will get a reformed way of the world and so it efects her choices and I dont mean on her sexual preference but just in general.

The examples you gave of the 2 lesbian couples is what you know and what your experiences are but the experiences I had with lesbians are far from good. My experiences with bi.sexual friends I have are good( friend. no relation). Nice open minded and telling you about problems she has with girlfriend, work stuff like that but as soon a lesbian comes in the room the atmosphere changed directly. I dont know how to put it in words realy, its all small details that I sense and hear.
Then from my experiences the question raised here over gay couples raising kids is not good, but hee that is my opinion.

If children are brought up well and loved and cared for, at most they will be fine individuals - whoever thier parents are. Having witnessed this first hand (with gay and straight parents) your ignorance, tho understandable feels way off the 'true' picture.

Ignorance I would not say, my opinion is based on my exeriences if that view is diferent then yours we discuss why we think like that.
And about ''children are brought up well and loved and cared for'' is for me a must, I absolutly love kids and if see some one does harm to a kid I go over the red.

The situation you describe sounds awful as do the particular parents you mention. However ignorance and narrowing the minds of children come from ignorant and narrow people. Of course there will be both gay and staright people like this but I believe that this is about them as people not neccessarily thier sexuality. There are also straight parents who are strict, abusive, condemning of difference/sexuality/race/religeon............. The main point isnt the parents sexual orientation. And unfortunately phrases like 'men arnt not be trusted' are all too common 'throughout' society and im willing to bet that many many straight mothers say such things to thier daughters - them being straight doesnt make it any less out of order.

Theres good and bad everywhere and In my opinion any situation in which a child is loved and nurtured is ok by me.

[noodles]

What about the rights of the child? The child of any gay couple is going to have to face derision and mockery by other children at school.

I used to get picked on at school - for various reasons. My parents were together and straight. In the news over the past few months there have been chidren whov hanged themselves to get away from the daily torment of bullies - there parents were straight. One of the girls i mentioned earlier was not bullied at school - her parents are gay. Kids will bully regardless - fact of life.

Its the monitoring of bullying that needs to improve and education around it. There is no excuse for it regardless of what difference is bieng picked on.

When at school kids were bullied for the following off the top of my head - ginger, wore glasses, had limp, mum has dissability, class difference, mole on face, speech problem, large forehead, overweight, unfashionable clothing, the wrong trainers, didn't drink alcohol, worked hard in class, got good grades, dad was a vicar, mum was a prostitue (although no-one ever really knew whether this was true), gippos (thats what they were called anyway), acting gay (effeminate boy).......................and it goes on.

What would you do if your child was bullying a kid with gay parents? How would you feel about it? Would you think it was the gay parents fault for having kids? Or would you deal with your child in the same way that you would if they were picking on an overweight or ginger child, or maybe a child from a travelling family? Do you differentiate between difference when it comes to bullying? Is some bullying understandable to you and some not?

[Guest]

How long have you been gay then?

[noodles]

How long have you been gay then?

and you ask because?.....

[Guest]

It's the gay parents thread. I'm genuinely curious when someone who is gay first discovered for sure that they are gay. My few gay and lesbian friends have all told me or I've asked at one time or another. You don't know me, so I'm sorry if you find the question intrusive and offensive.

[noodles]

It's the gay parents thread. I'm genuinely curious when someone who is gay first discovered for sure that they are gay. My few gay and lesbian friends have all told me or I've asked at one time or another. You don't know me, so I'm sorry if you find the question intrusive and offensive.

I dont. This topic is pretty heated tho so just checking why you askin.

Feelings for a woman at 19. Last with a man at 21. Came out at 22 and havent looked back. Now 35. Lots of clues in childhood tho when i look back, for example my bedroom wall covered in piccies of women no bands - no men lol.

[Guest]

Thanks for your reply. I'm just a bit confused. You are a gay man, no? If I'm wrong I'll be really embarrassed.

[noodles]

Thanks for your reply. I'm just a bit confused. You are a gay man, no? If I'm wrong I'll be really embarrassed.

Im a woman

Intrigued tho why you thought I was a man?

[Guest]

[Guest]

Now that I'm only down to one , I'll try to answer your question.

Truth is atm I dunno why I thought you were a man. I have to think about it. So that brings it back to

[noodles]

Lol. No needed. Afterall you cant actually see me.

[Gladys]

What about the rights of the child? The child of any gay couple is going to have to face derision and mockery by other children at school.

I used to get picked on at school - for various reasons. My parents were together and straight. In the news over the past few months there have been chidren whov hanged themselves to get away from the daily torment of bullies - there parents were straight. One of the girls i mentioned earlier was not bullied at school - her parents are gay. Kids will bully regardless - fact of life.

Its the monitoring of bullying that needs to improve and education around it. There is no excuse for it regardless of what difference is bieng picked on.

When at school kids were bullied for the following off the top of my head - ginger, wore glasses, had limp, mum has dissability, class difference, mole on face, speech problem, large forehead, overweight, unfashionable clothing, the wrong trainers, didn't drink alcohol, worked hard in class, got good grades, dad was a vicar, mum was a prostitue (although no-one ever really knew whether this was true), gippos (thats what they were called anyway), acting gay (effeminate boy).......................and it goes on.

What would you do if your child was bullying a kid with gay parents? How would you feel about it? Would you think it was the gay parents fault for having kids? Or would you deal with your child in the same way that you would if they were picking on an overweight or ginger child, or maybe a child from a travelling family? Do you differentiate between difference when it comes to bullying? Is some bullying understandable to you and some not?

You are just adding to your list another reason for a child to be bullied if it has gay parents.
Please think about the poor child.
The child's needs must always come first, not the whim of gay parents.

[Gladys]

Hmm... Trying to justify more intolerance with pre-existing intolerance.

Please put the child before political correctness.