How come gays are born defective?

[Fred75]

How come gays are born defective?

I mean this in no disrespect.... but if they are born that way how come they are not born in a manner that allows them to reproduce?

Or better yet.... since they cannot reproduce that way with each other why is it that they even have genitalia?


See.... I'm confused... what's the defect.... born gay or born gay with useless genitalia of reproduction?

Hormone production?
Growth?
Bone strength?

All gone awry!
DEFECTIVE then!

I can have kids if i want to, im in a lovely relationship, i own my own home, i have a job that involves supporting other people, i give time to volutntary work, i like to enjoy myself at the weekend, i have a lovely family and many friends, all in all im really happy and play a productive part in my community.

Theres absolutely nothing defective or 'all gone awry' about me (or any gay person i know) - well i get a bit narky sometimes but you can relate to that fred.

Your lifestyle and philosophy gets people killed.
Just ask Lena what happened to one of her friends when she slept with a man that slept with other men.

Wait…weren’t we just talking about retarded people and how hairy-back hates them? Now we’re talking about lifestyle? Hairy-back, can you straighten out your hatreds and keep them separate, so we can deal with one at a time?

Read what I am responding too.
Like the three "I"'s in the post.

And just where did I say I "hate" the retarded?

[stonecastle]

By the way most gays actually have had relationships with women at sometime in their lives. And the same with most lesbians who have relationships with men at some time in their lives. There are actually very few gay hetrosexual sex virgins.

So it seems that most so called gay people are actually bi-sexual but more strongly attracted to members of the same sex. This bi-sexuality would explain how gays have managed to pass on their genes down the generations. As you find that homosexuality tends to run in families usually skipping a generation or two. Gay people tend to have cousins or grandparents who are gay.

[Cambridge]

Read what I am responding too.
Like the three "I"'s in the post.

And just where did I say I "hate" the retarded?

Should the retarded procreate?
NO.
Why should society pay the burden of raising children the parents are incapable of doing themselves!
Unless of course you live in a NANNY state like the UK where they wipe your ass for you because of your incompetence.

I don't think ill-equipped parents (the word RETARDED was used) have the right to bring children into the world when they are incapable of raising them.
That's not fair to the child(ren).,

I trust there are no questions.

[Fred75]

Read what I am responding too. (Noodles, you idiot)
Like the three "I"'s in the post.

And just where did I say I "hate" the retarded?

Should the retarded procreate?
NO.
Why should society pay the burden of raising children the parents are incapable of doing themselves!
Unless of course you live in a NANNY state like the UK where they wipe your ass for you because of your incompetence.

I don't think ill-equipped parents (the word RETARDED was used) have the right to bring children into the world when they are incapable of raising them.
That's not fair to the child(ren).,

I trust there are no questions.
Your a numb nut.
IF the retarded have the mental capacity of a thirteen year old are they supposed to have the right to have children...especially since they will never be mentally older than a thirteen year old?
And if the retarded (thirteen year old mentality) are allowed.... that then mean it's of for thirteen year old girls to be having babies too?

Are YOU thirteen years old?

[noodles]

[b]

By the way most gays actually have had relationships with women at sometime in their lives. And the same with most lesbians who have relationships with men at some time in their lives. [/b]

This is all very true for many gay people.


There are actually very few gay hetrosexual sex virgins.

This is also true


So it seems that most so called gay people are actually bi-sexual but more strongly attracted to members of the same sex.

This in my experience (and that of many other gay people) is not so true. Most stories I hear of sex prior to coming out as gay have been more due to pressure of trying to fit in rather than genuine sexual attraction. Although I've known one girl to leave a gay relationship for a man - its the only one ive known - and ive known and know a lot of gay people. Im not saying it doesnt happen - its just fairly rare.


This bi-sexuality would explain how gays have managed to pass on their genes down the generations. As you find that homosexuality tends to run in families usually skipping a generation or two. Gay people tend to have cousins or grandparents who are gay.

Who the hell told you that. It does happen occassionally but then occassionally someone also gets a grandparent or uncle who has webbed feet, or a receding hairline at a young age. There is no proof of any such genetic link. Oh and by the way, my grandparents and cousins are all straight.

[Kyuubi]

stonecastle is just an un-informed moron who thinks he knows everything about sexuality. It's best if you ignore him.

It does not run in the family, it is not "passed down". If you have 2 of the exact same person and one's straight and one's gay, their genes aren't any different, nor their DNA. It's just common sense. Your body might crave a different gender but it's still all in your head.

I don't mean that in a bad way at all, because being gay/bi is all to do with your brain, and your thought process. It isn't your genes that make you that way.

If you think I'm a knowitall, ask the many different science teachers and researchers I've spoken to on the subject.

[Cambridge]

Your a numb nut.

Argument by name-calling. Ha! Myron would admire you.

IF the retarded have the mental capacity of a thirteen year old are they supposed to have the right to have children...especially since they will never be mentally older than a thirteen year old?
And if the retarded (thirteen year old mentality) are allowed.... that then mean it's of for thirteen year old girls to be having babies too?

Well, maybe you should formulate your arguments when you are sober. At least you would have better command of English grammar, if not logic.

Nevertheless, I notice the tendency on your part to act as the dictator of “procreation.” Do you think, with your shaky premises and faulty logic, this is a wise appointment for us to make? I think you are unqualified. Granted, a lot of your arguments go to the antinomies in the law of the US, but you consistently come down on restricting the rights of others.

One of the great gripes of democracy is that people want to tell other people what to do. Sometimes the best response is, “shut the F*** up.”

Are YOU thirteen years old?

So, clever retort there hairy-back. I trust your vacuous words were the product of your having nothing to say. (Spit! Spit! Fwett! my cat could do better.) So, this is how we get you to go away. Well…not for long, I am confident.

[myron myron]

No.
If they were equal to heterosexuals the reverse would be true.
A heterosexual man could impregnate a gay man.

Equal in what way?

He doesnt know what he's talking about. Many straight men and women cant procreate. I suppose they are less-people too He makes about as much sense as a chocolate fireguard.

They too are defective.
Not "less-people". Just born with a defect.
Like a person born with no hand(s).
Unless of course it was some sort of accident that they lost the capability to reproduce.

Are people with low intelligence "defective"?

Should mentally retarded people procreate?

Should the retarded procreate?
NO.
Why should society pay the burden of raising children the parents are incapable of doing themselves!

Unless of course you live in a NANNY state like the UK where they wipe your ass for you because of your incompetence.

If a mentally retarded couple capable of procreating wishes to procreate, should they be prevented?

If so, how?

[ZiaAries]

Your a numb nut.

Argument by name-calling. Ha! Myron would admire you.


So, clever retort there hairy-back. I trust your vacuous words were the product of your having nothing to say. (Spit! Spit! Fwett! my cat could do better.) So, this is how we get you to go away. Well…not for long, I am confident.

Nice "name-calling" there Cam. At least Fred75 has people that like him on FF, including Zia.

[Cambridge]

For those of you who are wondering, by mutual agreement I have blocked Zia…so that means I don’t know what she is saying. For my part, she is myron’s lap dog and I don’t need to hear her yapping as well as his. She has no independent mind, and I trust that I know everything about her argument by listening to myron, who, if anything, is better equipped to present it. So, whatever she is saying, my silence is more from disinterest than adversarial context. Nuff said.

[myron myron]

For those of you who are wondering, by mutual agreement I have blocked Zia…so that means I don’t know what she is saying. For my part, she is myron’s lap dog and I don’t need to hear her yapping as well as his. She has no independent mind, and I trust that I know everything about her argument by listening to myron, who, if anything, is better equipped to present it. So, whatever she is saying, my silence is more from disinterest than adversarial context. Nuff said.

Isn't that censorship, Cambridge/walker, which you purportedly abhor?

[ZiaAries]

For those of you who are wondering, by mutual agreement I have blocked Zia…so that means I don’t know what she is saying. For my part, she is myron’s lap dog and I don’t need to hear her yapping as well as his. She has no independent mind, and I trust that I know everything about her argument by listening to myron, who, if anything, is better equipped to present it. So, whatever she is saying, my silence is more from disinterest than adversarial context. Nuff said.

Yet, Cam is still reading my posts. myron's lap dog? If he'd like, I might let him hold my leash. And yes, I like intelligent men that know what they are writing about. You don't see myron climbing up anyone's ass like you do. BTW, he IS a lawyer in NYC. How do I know? I ain't gonna tell you Cambridge. myron, Fred and I all have friends on FF. Can you say the same for yourself?

Bye silly little boy. You are a bore.

[Cambridge]

For those of you who are wondering, by mutual agreement I have blocked Zia…so that means I don’t know what she is saying. For my part, she is myron’s lap dog and I don’t need to hear her yapping as well as his. She has no independent mind, and I trust that I know everything about her argument by listening to myron, who, if anything, is better equipped to present it. So, whatever she is saying, my silence is more from disinterest than adversarial context. Nuff said.

Isn't that censorship, Cambridge/walker, which you purportedly abhor?

No, it is simply disinterest.

[Fred75]

Your a numb nut.

Argument by name-calling. Ha! Myron would admire you.

IF the retarded have the mental capacity of a thirteen year old are they supposed to have the right to have children...especially since they will never be mentally older than a thirteen year old?
And if the retarded (thirteen year old mentality) are allowed.... that then mean it's of for thirteen year old girls to be having babies too?

Well, maybe you should formulate your arguments when you are sober.

Your funny.
You chastise me for calling someone a numb nut then go on to imply I'm drunk.

[Fred75]

No.
If they were equal to heterosexuals the reverse would be true.
A heterosexual man could impregnate a gay man.

Equal in what way?

He doesnt know what he's talking about. Many straight men and women cant procreate. I suppose they are less-people too He makes about as much sense as a chocolate fireguard.

They too are defective.
Not "less-people". Just born with a defect.
Like a person born with no hand(s).
Unless of course it was some sort of accident that they lost the capability to reproduce.

Are people with low intelligence "defective"?

Should mentally retarded people procreate?

Should the retarded procreate?
NO.
Why should society pay the burden of raising children the parents are incapable of doing themselves!

Unless of course you live in a NANNY state like the UK where they wipe your ass for you because of your incompetence.

If a mentally retarded couple capable of procreating wishes to procreate, should they be prevented?

If so, how?

Are you asking us if the rights of the retarded supersede the rights of the child(ren) to be raised in a proper family?