How's this for different morals?

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but then again, I thought that the term like neo-con is a pretty meaningless term too. Trying to define politics solely through left or right is a practice of extreme simplification. and both sides, taken to it's extreme, pretty much results in the same totalitarian state.

Well politics is a bit like the Earth really.

You can go to the North Pole... and you can go to the South Pole. Both are as far apart as you can get. Yet, both places are extremely similar i.e. it's cold and if you're not careful you'll get your knackers frozen off.

Outside of the poles the Earth's climate and terrain are a very varied thing. Just like political thought.

[elliott20]

but that's the problem with a lot of political discussions now a days. You either characterized to be a hardcore, gun totting, I-hate-gays, far right. Or you're I'm-so-sensitive-that-I-can't-use-a-swear-word, make-love-not-war, communism-for-all, lefty. At least, that's how it is with the most media stances.

[Topic Of Gossip]

but that's the problem with a lot of political discussions now a days. You either characterized to be a hardcore, gun totting, I-hate-gays, far right. Or you're I'm-so-sensitive-that-I-can't-use-a-swear-word, make-love-not-war, communism-for-all, lefty. At least, that's how it is with the most media stances.

Exactly.

And as you said, to make such assumptions is much too simplistic. But then... there are a lot of 'simple' people around.

[elliott20]

I'm guessing that's why too.

reducing your options down to a single multiple choice makes it easier for people to decide. You're either pro-this or pro-that. but god forbid if you're inbetween, then you're a flip-flop. It's really annoying, to be honest.

[mogadishu]

How do you define neo-con?

How about new words - same old S***?

I think neo-con is a term that the left uses for strong conservative.

For example, Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, and Levine are all neo-cons, and quite frankly, so am I.

It's a buzzword they use as a slur because they think it sounds bad and they hear others like themselves saying it, but almost none of them have any clue what it's supposed to mean and they get tongue-tied when confronted to define it.

No.... "extremist right wing to the point of bigotry". This one appears to be a homophobe, for example.

[ILWL]

It's a buzzword they use as a slur because they think it sounds bad and they hear others like themselves saying it, but almost none of them have any clue what it's supposed to mean and they get tongue-tied when confronted to define it.

Oh come come Myron - you of all people should know that words mean - what you want them to mean!

Once you know enough about a leftie to place them within one of the well-known leftie sub-groups

I have called you a 'leftie' therefore you must be a lefty - it is all the more easier after that - in 'fact' perhaps if we tag you like so and equate you therefore with the unsecular characteristics of evil - it will make it easy for us to kill you or perhaps worse deny you your humanity because afterall are we not all just merely animals!

[Blond Adult Girl]

It's a buzzword they use as a slur because they think it sounds bad and they hear others like themselves saying it, but almost none of them have any clue what it's supposed to mean and they get tongue-tied when confronted to define it.

Oh come come Myron - you of all people should know that words mean - what you want them to mean!

Once you know enough about a leftie to place them within one of the well-known leftie sub-groups

I have called you a 'leftie' therefore you must be a lefty - it is all the more easier after that - in 'fact' perhaps if we tag you like so and equate you therefore with the unsecular characteristics of evil - it will make it easy for us to kill you or perhaps worse deny you your humanity because afterall are we not all just merely animals!

We are animals, but we are darn intelligant animals!

[myron myron]

[Lena]

[quote="myronNEOCONS ?

The term "neo-con" has a specific meaning and a history................Yes , assholes and traitors ! Basically loudmouths who have never been in a war or even soldiers who love the idea of war . And sad to say have the same self-worshipping mentality about being jewish the nazis had about being Germans .............


Neo-cons are staunchly pro-Israel................ Yes to the extreme point of always putting israel ahead of America and thru deceit using American troops ( who you know they see as lowly gentiles ) to fight a whole series of holy wars for racist Israel .Probaly laffing about it over white wine and Chicken tatrazzini at a country club there in DC about it too!

If Democrats John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman were alive today, they would be called neocons..............................FAT CHANCE ! Kennedy and Truman unlike those jonathan pollards were loyal Americans .Also real tough guys , moi learned tonite when war came both Kennedy and Truman actually went out and fought . They didn't have to either, Kennedys family money could have kept him out and Truman was legally blind and over 40. As far as I know all those brave tough talking neocons have never been in a war or even in the militairy . Even little georgey showed up at a few air guard meetings . Those sheep in wolves clothing have never even been in the israeli army ! Also learned tonite Kennedy and Truman believed in freedom , fairness and ,were against racism .Thats more then you can say most of the time about the neocons or there holy isr........

At times I wonder if the neocons are more dangerous to America and the cause of freedom then bin laden . .....................

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[myron myron]

[mogadishu]

Irrelevant to who, myron? To bereaved mothers of soldiers who watch their boys die in war while the neo-cons who made illegal war in the first place tell us they had "other priorities than military service"?

[quote="myronNEOCONS ?

The term "neo-con" has a specific meaning and a history................Yes , assholes and traitors ! Basically loudmouths who have never been in a war or even soldiers who love the idea of war . And sad to say have the same self-worshipping mentality about being jewish the nazis had about being Germans .............


Neo-cons are staunchly pro-Israel................ Yes to the extreme point of always putting israel ahead of America and thru deceit using American troops ( who you know they see as lowly gentiles ) to fight a whole series of holy wars for racist Israel .Probaly laffing about it over white wine and Chicken tatrazzini at a country club there in DC about it too!

If Democrats John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman were alive today, they would be called neocons..............................FAT CHANCE ! Kennedy and Truman unlike those jonathan pollards were loyal Americans

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[mogadishu]

Neo-cons, short for "neo-conservatives," are not even to the right of mainstream conservatives.

Are you suggesting that PNAC is not to the right of mainstream conservatism? Or that PNAC is not a neo-con document? Or that it's authors are not neo-cons?

[myron myron]

[myron myron]

[mogadishu]

PNAC is a neo-con entity, but it is not the "extremist right wing."

i disagree.

Right-wing conservatives are isolationists except when the United States has been directly attacked.

what exactly are you saying here?