How tolerant are we really?

Are the polititians doing a good job could you do better, debate your views with others
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Postby Guest on Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:01 am

Scott L. Martinez wrote:Let's see you SPELL better next time Kalell...OK?

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Typical poster reply when they lose an arguement! :lol:

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Postby Guest on Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:06 am

beautiful wrote:I'm an adult and it makes sense. Do you mean everyone past the age 50?


Do you have a child of your own?

have you seen the pain others have suffered here from one parent families?


Because kids are not idiots...they know it takes a man and woman to make a child.
They know if you made a decision to not have one (the opposite sex)... you made a decision that was to fulfill your own needs and not the needs of the child!

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Postby Guest on Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:15 am

beautiful wrote:
Scott L. Martinez wrote:
. wrote:You have very good LIBERAL arguments that sound good and convincing!



But they are all based on the selfish desire of the individual.

None of them put WHAT"S BEST FOR A CHILD FIRST!

So, until you can show that teaching children that a parent can be disposable is a good thing under good situations (not death n divorce n abuse, etc..) you will not win your arguement!

What's best for a child and society as a whole will always trump liberal thinking!


I'm a liberal-conservative actually. I'm a youth member of the UK Conservative Party, which is headed by the liberal-conservative David Cameron.

Situation: Child in care/orphanage.

Options: a) Stay in care/orphanage.
b) Adoption by a gay couple.

Whats best for the child: The answer is b)

Simple really.



I'm an adult and it makes sense. Do you mean everyone past the age 50?


If you are an adult...
he is validating his position with a worst case scenario of little option.

As an adult... do you find that sensible?

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Postby Guest on Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:19 am

"Everyone past 50"

Surprise me and tell me your over 30!

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Postby beautiful on Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:48 am

. wrote:
beautiful wrote:I'm an adult and it makes sense. Do you mean everyone past the age 50?


Do you have a child of your own?

have you seen the pain others have suffered here from one parent families?


Because kids are not idiots...they know it takes a man and woman to make a child.
They know if you made a decision to not have one (the opposite sex)... you made a decision that was to fulfill your own needs and not the needs of the child!

I've seen pain suffered from one parent families, I've seen pain suffered from two parent families, I've seen abusive familes, I've seen foster homes. Any other questions?
Well behaved women rarely make history.

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Postby Guest on Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:21 pm

beautiful wrote:
. wrote:
beautiful wrote:I'm an adult and it makes sense. Do you mean everyone past the age 50?


Do you have a child of your own?

have you seen the pain others have suffered here from one parent families?


Because kids are not idiots...they know it takes a man and woman to make a child.
They know if you made a decision to not have one (the opposite sex)... you made a decision that was to fulfill your own needs and not the needs of the child!

I've seen pain suffered from one parent families, I've seen pain suffered from two parent families, I've seen abusive familes, I've seen foster homes. Any other questions?



Ya... how does you proving that ANY parent can be a crap parent justify your position?

Because that's what you come across as doing!
Saying crap parents still raised children that were ok!
But do you know children of crap parents have a higher suicide, violence and criminal rate than children from good homes!
Take a guess at the rate of divorce among children of divorce!

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Postby Ronja on Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:56 pm

All children needs to turn out fine, is growing up in a loving, supportive enviroment. Most gay couples can provide that, just as well as straight couples.

When it comes to adoption: there are so many children suffering in this world. How can anyone, want to let theese children continue to suffer, rather than be willing to offer them loving homes with people who just happen to be gay/lesbian?

I have been to orphanages in Africa myself, and I have seen the suffering with my own eyes. So to anyone who will tell me they're better of where they are, I tell you right now: They are definately not!

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:49 pm

Ronja wrote:All children needs to turn out fine, is growing up in a loving, supportive enviroment. Most gay couples can provide that, just as well as straight couples.

When it comes to adoption: there are so many children suffering in this world. How can anyone, want to let theese children continue to suffer, rather than be willing to offer them loving homes with people who just happen to be gay/lesbian?

I have been to orphanages in Africa myself, and I have seen the suffering with my own eyes. So to anyone who will tell me they're better of where they are, I tell you right now: They are definately not!


That is exactly my view Ronja.

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:56 pm

. wrote:
Scott L. Martinez wrote:Let's see you SPELL better next time Kalell...OK?

:laff:


Typical poster reply when they lose an arguement! :lol:


Losing? I seem to have support from 2 registered members.

You have no support. You are too stupid to realise you are the one in the wrong.

Are you really that dumb that you cannot spell ARGUMENT?

It only has one 'e'.

How can anyone be taken seriously if they do not have a sufficient command of language? English isn’t my first language, yet I can communicate better than you, in what I assume to be your first language Kalell?

An argument is judged upon the reasoning of the individual and the credibility of that individual. You have neither.

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Postby Guest on Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:49 pm

Ronja wrote:All children needs to turn out fine, is growing up in a loving, supportive enviroment. Most gay couples can provide that, just as well as straight couples.

When it comes to adoption: there are so many children suffering in this world. How can anyone, want to let theese children continue to suffer, rather than be willing to offer them loving homes with people who just happen to be gay/lesbian?

I have been to orphanages in Africa myself, and I have seen the suffering with my own eyes. So to anyone who will tell me they're better of where they are, I tell you right now: They are definately not!


1 Homosexual parents are parents that add a unique amount of stress to a child. A stress that a child from foster care does not need added to his life to begin with!
2 Homosexuals have a higher instance of mental problems such as suicide and drug abuse.
3 Homosexuals have a far greater instability of "marriage". They dont stay together as long as heterosexual couples.
4 Homosexuals provide no proper role model of the opposite sex.
5 How does a young girl ask a gay man about her period.

The list goes ON as to why homosexuals don't make good parents.

So, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD... the familyu unit with the FEWEST PROBLEMS is THE BEST for the child!

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Postby Winky89 on Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:59 pm

Oh dear, :gah: by the "Homosexuals are going to hell" fanatic...

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Postby Guest on Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:08 pm

Want an example of why gay's make bad parents!

It's because they are selfish and self serving.

They think only of themselves and not the child!

Because if they gave a damn about the children they would not make the child responsible for proving social reform!

And that's what will happen since the child has to LIVE with the stigma and the stares!

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Postby Winky89 on Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:33 pm

So, do you have anything against homosexuals who choose not to have children?

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Postby Guest on Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:33 pm

Ineresting info....

Tolerate or toleration is a term about how one acts to one that still disgusts you!

Let's count how many tolerate as opposed to actually not revolted!

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Postby Winky89 on Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:34 pm

. wrote:

And that's what will happen since the child has to LIVE with the stigma and the stares!


You mean the stigma and the stares from YOU?

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