John Edwards "puke"

[Big Ben]

[Cambridge]

I don't portray women as weak. A woman stricken with breast cancer and fighting for her life would be in a WEAKENED state while her mutherfucker scum of a husband was not taking care of her while he kept the company of a skank other woman.

Cam, I'm not blind to the article you present. I whole-heartedly believe women are the stronger sex. However that does not change what Edward did to his wife and family. I think the article appears to be your attempt to sweep Edward's true pond-scum character under the rug.

Now there!

I don't portray women as weak. A woman stricken with breast cancer and fighting for her life would be in a WEAKENED state while her mutherfucker scum of a husband was not taking care of her while he kept the company of a skank other woman.

Cam, I'm not blind to the article you present. I whole-heartedly believe women are the stronger sex. However that does not change what Edward did to his wife and family. I think the article appears to be your attempt to sweep Edward's true pond-scum character under the rug.

Now there.

Now zia you and I know each other enough to know what our positions are. Did I not say that I was more than disappointed in Edwards’ conduct? You can’t make the issue into breast cancer any more than you can make it into testicular cancer. The attempt to make the issue into Elizabeth’s breast cancer demeans Elizabeth.

I don’t have words to describe who Edwards is, but I do have words to describe who his wife is. She is a proud woman, a mother, a lawyer, a wife who has gone through political campaigns, intelligent, poised, beautiful, a fighter, a believer and an encourager for the people around her. Now, do you want to demean that list by adding a "victim" who was reduced to the status of an amoeba? Victimhood is beneath her...as is her husband.

[ZiaAries]

I'm not demeaning her at all. Really.

I do agree with you that Edwards is beneath her. He probably has no clue that he is though.

I don't understand why wives of politicians stick by their cheating husband's side the way they do. I don't believe the reason they do is all about love or vows either.

[Cambridge]

I'm not demeaning her at all. Really.

I do agree with you that Edwards is beneath her. He probably has no clue that he is though.

I don't understand why wives of politicians stick by their cheating husband's side the way they do. I don't believe the reason they do is all about love or vows either.

It's about character. She has got it in abundance.

[mogadishu]

Elizabeth edwards is a victim.

We're not talking about an ordinary situation where she could kick her husband in the balls and leave him for having an affair. Rather, she is stricken with cancer and her spouse went off and shot his rocks off, probably many times if it is his child.

I thought liberals were supposed to be the compassionate ones. True compassion is applying it to the right situations, rather than misusing it to promote the social cause of the day.

+1

That woman are automatically victims is as demeaning to women as Jesse Jackson’s vision of the role Blacks should play as beggin' the massa fo mo welfare.

Why should it even be a man v woman thing? She's a human and she's dying.

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Elizabeth Edwards' decision not to leave her husband after he confessed to an affair was hastened by the discovery of her cancer recurrence just months after the revelation, her brother and a friend told People magazine.

"She couldn't say, 'Well, maybe we'll work through this for years, or maybe we should separate for two years,"' Hargrave McElroy, a friend, told the magazine for its Aug. 25 issue. "(The cancer) forced her to choose whether to move forward."

Edwards, a two-time Democratic presidential candidate, admitted last week to having a short affair in 2006 with a filmmaker named Rielle Hunter, who was hired that year to produce short videos for his political action committee. The former North Carolina senator denied he was the father of Hunter's 5-month-old daughter and offered to take a paternity test to prove it.

Though her attorney, Hunter rejected the idea of such a test and said she has no intention to speak publicly about the affair. Through a spokeswoman, both John and Elizabeth Edwards declined a request for an interview Wednesday.

John Edwards has said he both ended the affair and told Elizabeth about his infidelity in 2006. He kicked off his second bid for the White House in New Orleans a few days after Christmas, at an event that Hunter attended and his wife did not.

But Elizabeth Edwards was out campaigning soon thereafter, and continued to do so after the couple disclosed in March that her breast cancer has spread to her bone and could not be cured. In July of that year, the Edwards renewed their vows to celebrate their 30th wedding anniversary in the presence of a small group of friends and family, including their three children.

"There was anguish -- excruciating anguish -- for her in dealing with this," McElroy said. "She was angry and furious and everything, but at one point she had to make a choice: Do I kick him out, or do we have a 30-year marriage that can be rebuilt."

Elizabeth Edwards' brother, Jay Anania, told People that his sister was focused on her children -- 8-year-old Jack, 10-year-old Emma Claire and eldest daughter Cate, 26. When he reached her the day after John Edwards admitted publicly to the affair, he said Elizabeth Edwards asked him to call later because she was reading with Jack.

"Jack reads to her an hour a day as part of his home-schooling," Anania told People. "The world is whizzing around her and she's cool as a cucumber, saying, 'Jack just started. Can I call you back?'"
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved

[ZiaAries]

Good find Mog. Thanks for posting it.

[Cambridge]

Exactly. How can anyone say that Elizabeth is a reactor, not an initiator? She decides her own path. She takes her own course. No one who takes charge permits themselves to be called a victim. If someone called me a victim I would crunch their nuts...among other things.

Ben, my compassion is embodied in my respect. When a soldier dies or is wounded, you don't say how unfair the conflict was. You just salute. That's all I'm doing with Elizabeth.

[Lena]

Lets not forget Mc Cain has a history of cheating too..............

[mogadishu]

No one who takes charge permits themselves to be called a victim.

I disagree. A very popular elderly lady I know (well liked for her positive attitude, wisdom and determination) was recently burgled. Shes' not the complaining type, but still suffered post traumatic flashbacks. In my view, she can be legitimately called a victim of crime, despite never having defaulted on her duty of care to herself.

I can't really see what point you're trying to make here, Cambridge. Maybe I'm stupid.

[ZiaAries]

No one who takes charge permits themselves to be called a victim.

I disagree. A very popular elderly lady I know (well liked for her positive attitude, wisdom and determination) was recently burgled. Shes' not the complaining type, but still suffered post traumatic flashbacks. In my view, she can be legitimately called a victim of crime, despite never having defaulted on her duty of care to herself.

I can't really see what point you're trying to make here, Cambridge. Maybe I'm stupid.

You are not stupid Mog. I see it exactly the same as you. She is a victim of her husband's selfishness and ego. I understand that the cancer has spread to her bones. What other choices does this woman have at this point for her children or herself? She is not able to take charge of much at this point. Like most all mothers, she puts herself last and does what she has to do for her children.

[Cambridge]

No one who takes charge permits themselves to be called a victim.

I disagree. A very popular elderly lady I know (well liked for her positive attitude, wisdom and determination) was recently burgled. Shes' not the complaining type, but still suffered post traumatic flashbacks. In my view, she can be legitimately called a victim of crime, despite never having defaulted on her duty of care to herself.

I can't really see what point you're trying to make here, Cambridge. Maybe I'm stupid.

So, you superior males are disposed to take Elizabeth under your protective wings? Well, what if she doesn’t want your protection? It is just your egos that make you take the positions you take?

Big Men…protecting the small woman!!! No, Elizabeth does not want your pity. She does not need your protection, thank you very much. She's a woman deserving of respect and pride. F*** your egos, and get lost! (Just an expression to make a point.)

[mogadishu]

Cambridge, you're making no sense. At all.

[myron myron]

Cambridge thinks you are a man.






(I know you're not.)

[mogadishu]

Ahhhh... nooowww I get it....

[Cambridge]

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