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Jolie vs Aniston: whose side are you on?(Belfast Telegraph)

Postby swee on Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:27 pm

Jolie vs Aniston: whose side are you on?
It's girl-next-door Jennifer Aniston versus feisty and (reportedly) pregnant Angelina Jolie. And who you support is a personal statement

By Ed Caesar

09 August 2005
Since March 2005, Hollywood has been at war with itself. It all started on a warm spring morning, when an announcement rocked the entertainment world: Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston were splitting up. Rumours abounded of Pitt's affair with Angelina Jolie. All parties denied it. But if the initial event was shocking, the aftermath has been brutal.

Jolie and Pitt posed together as a 1960s-style married couple for a 60-page photo-shoot in W magazine. Then reports surfaced of their wild nights together in Africa. The most recent rumour to appear in the New York Post (and now the whole of the planet's tabloid press), that Jolie is pregnant with Pitt's child, would seem to be the particularly bitter icing on an already sour cake.

Everyone, it seems, has an opinion. Hollywood's finest have declared their interest with the help of the Hollywood boutique Kitson, and their (now sold-out) "Team Aniston" and "Team Jolie" T-shirts. The Desperate Housewives star Eva Longoria has just changed sides by apologising to Aniston for wearing a T-shirt that trumpeted the message: "I'll have your baby, Brad". Last week, when Aniston finally broke her silence in an interview in Vanity Fair, the Hollywood bible also nailed its colours to the mast. Aniston's rival is described as "the twice-divorced Jolie - previously known as a tattooed vixen with a taste for bisexuality, heroin, brotherly i*****, mental institutions and wearing her husband's blood". Aniston, on the other hand "only has kind words about her marriage", and meets the interviewer with "a radiant smile and an effusive hello".

The loquacious scribes are not alone. Kitson reports that Team Aniston T-shirts are outselling Team Jolie by 25 to one. But in a society where success is all, why do people not side with the girl who got her man?

Let us consider the case for both. The heavily outnumbered Team Jolie supporters admire Jolie's aloof exoticism, her Hollywood pedigree (her father is John Voight) and her rock'n'roll past. Her beauty goes hand-in-hand with an increasingly prominent role as a United Nations goodwill ambassador, in which she has worked to bring the plight of HIV/Aids victims to the world's attention. What more could you want? Jolie is a sexy, independent woman who is using her profile to do something for the common good.

Team Aniston are backing the underdog. Aniston's accessible, girl-next-door kind of beauty (girl-next-door providing you live in Beverly Hills, that is), has been an ever-present on television screens for the past decade. Millions of people around the world know her, or think they do. When she and the world's most desirable man became an item, the public were rooting for her just as they rooted for Rachel in Friends. And, when they broke up, America felt her pain just as keenly.

The crucial factor in this brouhaha is that it is women who are fuelling the debate. It is women who are buying the T-shirts, and women who are discussing the latest piece of Brad/Jen/Angelina gossip. Faced with the prospect of backing the irritatingly beautiful and sexually voracious home-wrecker, or the pretty, vulnerable sitcom star, the outcome is, as they might say in the States, a no-brainer.

But spare a vituperative thought for the one party who seems to have got off scot-free. With all the debate focused on Jolie and Aniston, Pitt has bounced from a relationship with one beautiful, successful woman to another, and come up smelling of roses.

Even the injured party hasn't got a bad word to say about him. Although Aniston's friends admit that the entire affair has been like "having a root canal without anaesthesia", the actress herself is loathe to point the finger of blame at Pitt. Significantly, she refuses to believe that Jolie and Pitt were having an affair while Pitt and she were still together, saying simply: "I choose to believe my husband."

Perhaps worse for Aniston were the publication of those pictures, in W magazine, which showed Pitt and Jolie playing the couple. Still Aniston refuses to blame him, even though it was Pitt's idea and he profited hugely from the shoot by retaining the international copyright to the pictures. "He makes his choices," says Aniston. "He can do - whatever." It is not so much that Aniston and America have forgiven Brad, as that they never blamed him.

No doubt, when the progeny of Pitt and Jolie emerges, there will be another rush on the "Team Aniston" T-shirts (as well as, presumably, a "Team Jolie" romper suit). But surely Kitson and the chattering citizens of Tinseltown are missing a trick.

Where's the "Boo to Brad" singlet? The "Pitt's the Pits" underwear range? How come Brad gets to sow his oats in whatever celebrity furrow he pleases without so much as a raised eyebrow? Sisters of Sunset Boulevard, it is time to unite.
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Postby You'Guest' It on Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:58 pm

While this article may be sort of a rhetorical question, I choose to answer it: I am FIRMLY on Jennifer Aniston's side. I do not, however, forgive Pitt-Stain for his role in this, as this article suggests that most of the world has done. He and Jolie have lied for so long, it now seems to be...ok. The world has apparently forgotten all about that little tid-bit. Golly, how nice for them both. :roll: Are we seriously supposed to believe it was all 'innocent' before Aniston filed???:lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:

I think Jen should have taken a harder stance in her article for VF. Brad was JUST as culpable as Jolie. He's a total oblivious S***. Good riddance.

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Postby whynot? on Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:15 pm

I agree with 'you guest it' as far as the position of the article. I think there was some bias on the writers part. There is more to Aniston then written.

With that said, I side with Aniston. Too bad there isnt a poll we could answer on this thread. That way we could not argue with the numbers. Oh well, I have been a fan of Jens way before Pitt. Jolie was great in Gia, but my problem with her is , well I have never liked sluts nor do I hang out with sluts. They dont make good girl friends.

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Postby Guest on Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:27 pm

i'm 100% with aniston team

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Postby Guest on Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:33 pm

whynot? wrote:well I have never liked sluts nor do I hang out with sluts. They dont make good girl friends.


And that would be why Angelina appears to have very few Female Friends...No one likes a Slut, especially when you'd have to be wondering 24/7 if she's trying to steal your Husband/Boyfriend (Or Girlfriend) from you...

I'm a Jen Fan, therefore I am firmly on Team Aniston....Got no respect for Angelina Jolie, I've never liked her, but she's just cemented it in my mind now how much of a Lying Whorebag she is with all this Stuff, I've got no respect for Brad Pitt anymore either....Reading Vanity Fair, it's quite obvious how hurt Jen is and it's a real shame, because she always said he was the Love of her Life, the Man she trusted the most and the only one she'd ever want to be with.....So I feel bad for Brad, because he obviously had no Idea what he had and I hope he reads Vanity Fair, and realises the Pain he's caused, maybe he'll do something to fix it....

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Postby swee on Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:39 pm

I added a poll!

I would be on Jen's side if I had to take sides but I still like Angelina's films better than Jen's. Angelina is a better actor. I blame Brad primarily for all of this - he was the one who was married, not Angelina :evil: Jennifer has handled herself with class and decorum through this whole debacle. I believe in karma. She will find her happiness, Brad and Angelina are flash in the pan. The reason I highlighted this article after zillions of posts re: the whole situation is that Brad is getting off scottfree. Why do we target the women? Is it because as women we are meant to look out for each other? Or because hidden underneath that myth there is a hatred amongst women? I'm just throwing in a discussion topic :)
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Postby swee on Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:44 pm

You'Guest' It wrote:I think Jen should have taken a harder stance in her article for VF. Brad was JUST as culpable as Jolie. He's a total oblivious S***. Good riddance.


Agreed, agreed and thrice agreed!!!!
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Postby Ambivalent on Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:58 pm

Sweeswee, the reason that I blame Jolie as much or more than Pitt is that I believe that he was in the middle of a middle age crisis, and was vulnerable. Let's face it, after 7 years, a relationship can grow, but it isn't going to be as "exciting" as it was at the beginning (although in many ways it gets better). Add the mid life crisis, and a woman who I believe specifically targeted Brad from the first day of filming, and it would be very difficult for a man to refuse.

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Postby swee on Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:02 am

Okay, well that's understandable that both of them are at fault. I have just noticed that (as the article pointed out) Brad has come out of this pretty much unscathed.
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Postby You 'Guest' It on Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:04 am

sweeswee wrote:
You'Guest' It wrote:I think Jen should have taken a harder stance in her article for VF. Brad was JUST as culpable as Jolie. He's a total oblivious S***. Good riddance.


Agreed, agreed and thrice agreed!!!!


Glad you think so too :wink: As I mentioned, since Jen took SUCH a high road, (too high, imo), if Brad EVEN tries to justify himself or - I'll laugh so hard, I swear - tries to put the blame on Jen, he'll come out looking like the world's biggest asshole, and oh my, what that'll do to his precious image! :lol: :lol:

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Postby You 'Guest' It on Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:07 am

Ambivalent wrote:Sweeswee, the reason that I blame Jolie as much or more than Pitt is that I believe that he was in the middle of a middle age crisis, and was vulnerable. Let's face it, after 7 years, a relationship can grow, but it isn't going to be as "exciting" as it was at the beginning (although in many ways it gets better). Add the mid life crisis, and a woman who I believe specifically targeted Brad from the first day of filming, and it would be very difficult for a man to refuse.


I have LONG agreed with this stance - Jolie knew exactly what she was doing, did it deliberately, and lied just as deliberately. Which is why she has incurred so much wrath on the part of the general female public. To get all self-righteous and say 'I never did anything wrong, and would never be with a married man after what my dad did...' etc., etc....truly disgusting.

As we've all mentioned here before, and probably will do again! :D

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Postby swee on Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:07 am

You 'Guest' It wrote:
sweeswee wrote:
You'Guest' It wrote:I think Jen should have taken a harder stance in her article for VF. Brad was JUST as culpable as Jolie. He's a total oblivious S***. Good riddance.


Agreed, agreed and thrice agreed!!!!


Glad you think so too :wink: As I mentioned, since Jen took SUCH a high road, (too high, imo), if Brad EVEN tries to justify himself or - I'll laugh so hard, I swear - tries to put the blame on Jen, he'll come out looking like the world's biggest asshole, and oh my, what that'll do to his precious image! :lol: :lol:


See my new thread on him asking Jen for Angelina-related advice to see how brazen he (allegedly) is :evil:
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Postby You 'Guest' It on Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:16 am

sweeswee wrote:
You 'Guest' It wrote:
sweeswee wrote:
You'Guest' It wrote:I think Jen should have taken a harder stance in her article for VF. Brad was JUST as culpable as Jolie. He's a total oblivious S***. Good riddance.


Agreed, agreed and thrice agreed!!!!


Glad you think so too :wink: As I mentioned, since Jen took SUCH a high road, (too high, imo), if Brad EVEN tries to justify himself or - I'll laugh so hard, I swear - tries to put the blame on Jen, he'll come out looking like the world's biggest asshole, and oh my, what that'll do to his precious image! :lol: :lol:


See my new thread on him asking Jen for Angelina-related advice to see how brazen he (allegedly) is :evil:


I seriously hope that's not true - that Jen actually answered his call. VOMIT!!!, Ok? If he actually ran to his NOT EVEN DIVORCED YET WIFE on mistress advice??? Are you f*cking KIDDING me?

But hey, if he's doing that, then maybe he's finally seeing just how calculating Jolie-slut really is, and maybe he'll get a big fat wake up call.

Nah, he's too stupid. And if this article really is true, he's more than just a little stupid: he's some SPECIAL kind of stupid, as well as completely lacking a conscience or any of the decency that he likes to project about himself.

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Postby jennaa on Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:23 am

I want to vote for Jen. Please tell me how.

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Postby Violet on Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:34 am

I think I have a pretty fair and balanced view on all this because I've never been a Jen fan at all. In fact before Brad left her I really disliked her. Now I feel sorry for her.

When I first heard the rumours that Angelina and Brad were a couple I was sort of excited. A great new celeb couple. What got me were the lies. They denied that they were an item flat out and brazenly and then got caught out in their lies in Africa.

And I just didn't think of Brad as a disgusting liar before. Then slowly the truth about them began to emerge.

My disgust heightened when he move in with Jolie so soon and hit the roof when he actually went with her to pick up that third world adopted kid.

Now the brazenness of them living together in Malibu 500 metres from jennifer's house just astounds me. And well, after the Vanity Fair interview, I just think Brad's behaviour is despicable.

I still think Jennifer should have had a kid as soon as she left Friends. Because then Brad would not have dared leave her like this.

I agree that Angelina is taking 90% of the heat but I still think Brad is damaged by it. He's been shown to be an insensitive liar at best and a cheating adulterer at worst when he used to have a really great public image. I hope both of them get what's coming to them.

Before I would NEVER have paid to see Jennifer in anything. Now I just might see that movie with her and Clive Owen.

And given how much I disliked her before it's a miracle.

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