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Postby forkhandles on Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:40 pm

Men have had more fashion freedom in more recent history. Back in the late 60's & 70's it was the fashion for men to wear more extravagant & colourful clothes. Some mens shirts sometimes looked more like silky blouses, & trousers were tight fitting (more like leggings), & in bright colours. shoes got high heels too.
I think it was accepted men's & womens clothes were more interchangeable than they are now.

I remember seeing guys wearing kaftans, beads, long hair. From the back they looked like a girl until they turned around & they had a dodgy moustache & big sideburns.
David Bowie wore tailored 'mens dresses' in the early 70's. they looked more like midi length coat really, worn with knee length boots. Very bohemian... from what I remember!

I blame the punks. Fashion seemed to change overnight. One day I'm wearing big flares a floaty shirt & shoes with heels, then suddenly it was all drainpipe jeans, t shirts & trainers. Women just got more options, but guys seemed to get less, & we never really got it back.

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Postby 8.0 on Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:38 am

ok this is an example of what is seen as normal, there are two babys one have two arm and the another have one missing, the baby with one arm should have every right as the baby with two arms does, But as it comes down to it the baby with one arm is not normal an people will not treat it like a normal person! im trying to say how i feel about this subjected and becuase i dont agree with you's, you's take a dig at me and you are not accepting my point of veiw, i have nothing against men wearing womens clothing behind closed door but not in public

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Postby quatinus on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:19 am

ok this is an example of what is seen as normal, there are two babys one have two arm and the another have one missing, the baby with one arm should have every right as the baby with two arms does, But as it comes down to it the baby with one arm is not normal an people will not treat it like a normal person! im trying to say how i feel about this subjected and becuase i dont agree with you's, you's take a dig at me and you are not accepting my point of veiw, i have nothing against men wearing womens clothing behind closed door but not in public


Normality is a concept – a given state at a given time ergo normality may be the product of sustained change.

The example you gave is a physiological one and, whilst I won’t use it, I will use similar analogy. At this moment in time it is ‘normal’ for individuals to be born with four fingers and a thumb on each hand therefore it would be considered ‘abnormal’ for a person born with, say, five fingers on each hand. Now let us suppose that over the next thousand years of evolution (our sustained change) the majority of people are born with five fingers and not four then what we, now, consider as ‘normal’ would in fact be the reverse.

Changes in culture, society, creed etc will ultimately affect our concept of normality.

Now, to bring this back to the original thread, changes in our concept of normality can be as a result of personal freedoms one of which is the freedom of choice for males to wear what we want and where we want (not just behind closed doors).

My personal choice is to wear shorts all year as I don’t like wearing long trousers. Consequently, and only recently, I have taken to wearing tights under the shorts to avoid getting cold legs during the day. There is no sexual connotation I just merely want to comfortable in what I wear but why should I be under virtual ‘house arrest’ - because it could invite comment and ridicule if I went out in them.

tights are an item of clothing and there are several manufacturers that produce tights and other hosiery specifically for men. There is a worldwide market for male tights so why should we be in the closet if want wear them.

I accept that individual points of view will differ from mine and I don't mind that providing that those individuals also accept my point of view and are tolerant of them instead of being dogmatic and disparaging.

We live in a diverse society where everyone should be able to exercise their, in this instance, fashion freedom of choice without feeling belittled, without being treated like a leper, without being riduled and castigated for doing so.

I don't mind you not feeling that it is not 'normal' but I would ask that you be tolerant and accept, even though you disagree, that we don't all share the same viewpoint. :wink
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Postby quatinus on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:22 am

As at time of posting the thread has had 970 views and only 14 votes on the poll :? :?
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Postby loki_uk on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:35 am

quatinus wrote:
.... ( ITS JUST WRONG FOR MEN TO WEAR WOMENS CLOTHING)


There are no such thing as womens clothes or mens clothes there are however clothes that are, and have been, traditionally worn by women or men. That said it does not mean that it should always be so. Using your argument - is it wrong for women to wear trousers which have been traditionally worn by men?

I don't want to repeat what I have said in earlier posts in this thread but men and women should have the right to wear what they like. Clothes do not necessarily affect or demonstrate an individuals sexuality.

You seem to have a very narrow minded viewpoint. It is viewpoints like that that suppress the male freedom to wear what they like whilst women can do just that. Have you worn socks, trousers, shirts - traditionally mens wear!!!!!!
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tights were first worn by men too, so should we allow women to continue crossdressing by wearing tights ? :wink:

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Postby loki_uk on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:36 am

quatinus wrote:
.... ( ITS JUST WRONG FOR MEN TO WEAR WOMENS CLOTHING)


There are no such thing as womens clothes or mens clothes there are however clothes that are, and have been, traditionally worn by women or men. That said it does not mean that it should always be so. Using your argument - is it wrong for women to wear trousers which have been traditionally worn by men?

I don't want to repeat what I have said in earlier posts in this thread but men and women should have the right to wear what they like. Clothes do not necessarily affect or demonstrate an individuals sexuality.

You seem to have a very narrow minded viewpoint. It is viewpoints like that that suppress the male freedom to wear what they like whilst women can do just that. Have you worn socks, trousers, shirts - traditionally mens wear!!!!!!
:roll:


Men were the first to wear tights, so should we allow women to continue crossdresssing by wearing them ? :wink:

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Postby loki_uk on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:38 am

quatinus wrote:
.... ( ITS JUST WRONG FOR MEN TO WEAR WOMENS CLOTHING)


There are no such thing as womens clothes or mens clothes there are however clothes that are, and have been, traditionally worn by women or men. That said it does not mean that it should always be so. Using your argument - is it wrong for women to wear trousers which have been traditionally worn by men?

I don't want to repeat what I have said in earlier posts in this thread but men and women should have the right to wear what they like. Clothes do not necessarily affect or demonstrate an individuals sexuality.

You seem to have a very narrow minded viewpoint. It is viewpoints like that that suppress the male freedom to wear what they like whilst women can do just that. Have you worn socks, trousers, shirts - traditionally mens wear!!!!!!
:roll:


Men were the first to wear tights, so should we allow women to continue crossdresssing by wearing them ? :wink:

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Postby loki_uk on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:38 am

quatinus wrote:
.... ( ITS JUST WRONG FOR MEN TO WEAR WOMENS CLOTHING)


There are no such thing as womens clothes or mens clothes there are however clothes that are, and have been, traditionally worn by women or men. That said it does not mean that it should always be so. Using your argument - is it wrong for women to wear trousers which have been traditionally worn by men?

I don't want to repeat what I have said in earlier posts in this thread but men and women should have the right to wear what they like. Clothes do not necessarily affect or demonstrate an individuals sexuality.

You seem to have a very narrow minded viewpoint. It is viewpoints like that that suppress the male freedom to wear what they like whilst women can do just that. Have you worn socks, trousers, shirts - traditionally mens wear!!!!!!
:roll:

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men on high heels look great

Postby lolla on Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:25 pm

For those who still not accept high heels for men please go to http://www.highheelspassion.blogspot.com were you will find some pics which can change your perception about the men wearing high heels.

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Postby lolla on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:40 pm

A friend of mine asked me this question: In a world without men do women wear high heels? Good question and I still no have an answer. May be you have one. I want to ask the men who love to wear high heels: In a world without women do you wear high heels?

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Postby justabloke on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:25 pm

putting the whole cross dress thing to one side fora minute and looking at mens clothes.

have noticed that clothes are getting better for men.
eg better cut trousers that look good on slim men with nice body, and slim tapered shirts, again for slim men.
just look in the high st shops, and you will find a brilliant choice of fashionable clothes for men.
the only place where we fall behind women is at work. the shirt and tie rule is hideous.
i mean you look smart, but would nt it be great to wear something different for a change.
its also difficult to show your individuality at work (isnt that a human right?)
anyway im all for more freedom for everyone to express themselves. yes lets give us men a break. weve been too restricted for far too long.

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huh ???

Postby Bushwalker on Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:44 am

8.0 wrote:what u mean cross dresses coz i dont know many man that would wear tights or high heels and i know gay guys that wouldnt either so u must mean CROSS DRESSES i know saying i have anything against them im just saying i think its not right i know how some ppl can e traped in the wrong body and all that but the thuing it if u feel like that then go and get a sex change dont just wear girls cloths


This troll is just another stupid and meaningless, computer-illiterate moron, who doesn't actually have an opinion; but simply puts her/his two bobs worth in to add a bit of stirring to a discussion...

Any message (s)he might have had, is inevitably lost in the pointless and empty drivel (s)he managed to produce there..

Such a waste of time, space and resources.

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Lying little Troll...

Postby Bushwalker on Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:57 am

8.0 wrote:
Moira Mac wrote:
8.0 wrote:what u mean cross dresses coz i dont know many man that would wear tights or high heels and i know gay guys that wouldnt either so u must mean CROSS DRESSES i know saying i have anything against them im just saying i think its not right i know how some ppl can e traped in the wrong body and all that but the thuing it if u feel like that then go and get a sex change dont just wear girls cloths


Possibly the worlds longest unpunctuated and useless sentence rolled into one...

The reason you possibly don't know many men that wear tights, high heels etc, is because they are afraid to admit it. Would you ask a woman to get a sex change if she prefers to wear mens shirts and jeans and 'boy pants'? No, well why are you asking men to spend thousands on a gender rebuild for the sake of a handful of clothes! We are supposed to be in an equal society. The hell we are.

Women screamed for years for equality, then scream again when it's carried out. It makes me ashamed sometimes to be a female.

I don't mind my boyfriend trying my stuff for a laugh, and I certainly don't question his sexuality when he is doing an impression of trying to nail my pussy to the mattress during lovemaking.


ITS JUST WRONG if my boyfriend wanted to put on my clothes i would would question his sexuality, i think men should be men and acted like it, i think men that wear womens clothes have something wrong with them. i study developmental psychology and its not normal. if men want to wear womens clothes doin it in privert, most gay men dont wear`womens clothing, my brother is metrosexual and i think its not normal he is more like a sister to me then a brother but yet he loves girls. my boyfriend is so manly and i thin k every man shouyld be like that ( ITS JUST WRONG FOR MEN TO WEAR WOMENS CLOTHING)


Not only a troll, but a lying piece of garbage on top of that...

1. This person is not a tertiary student studying any type of psychology - (s)he can't even put a proper sentence together, let alone his/her appalling grammar, spelling and computer-illiteracy.

2. This person shows no knowledge or background in psychology nor psychiatry; nor the required intelligence to even get into Uni', let alone study such courses..

3. I'm starting to even think that this troll might even be one of those feral teenage prats posting elsewhere on here, and reinventing himself for this thread.

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8.0 is a spineless, gormless illiterate t*** of a Troll...

Postby Bushwalker on Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:23 am

8.0 wrote:ok this is an example of what is seen as normal, there are two babys one have two arm and the another have one missing, the baby with one arm should have every right as the baby with two arms does, But as it comes down to it the baby with one arm is not normal an people will not treat it like a normal person! im trying to say how i feel about this subjected and becuase i dont agree with you's, you's take a dig at me and you are not accepting my point of veiw, i have nothing against men wearing womens clothing behind closed door but not in public


The complete illiteracy and lack of education with this twit is neverending...
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As of yesterday, out of 24 votes, 100% had voted that they supported the concept of Fashion Freedom for men..

As 8.0 has consistently written here that he/she doesn't support such a philosophy, (s)he has obviously not voted on this poll - hence he doesn't even have the spine to show the strength of his convictions.
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Not only an obnoxious Troll, but a Coward to boot, also.
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Postby lucky09 on Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:54 am

I do wear opaque tights, mini skirt, calf boots and any top to match that make me more comfortable also it look on me... it need change for men fashion as wear trousers only are too bored.. need to change like wear skirt, etc.. I cant wear men clothes cos Im suffered from weight loss as my waist is 26" that why I cant find men trousers size which is from 30" - I used female clothes like jeans, mini skirt - that only I buying and I already have lots of it. I have lots of calf, knee-high boots with flat heel and slip shoes as well -- it nice to change different fashion. Im wearing black opaque tights with ruby cord mini skirt, pink Cotton Trader shirt and black suede calf boots it look nicely. :)
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