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i love my child wrote:10 yrs ago i broke up with my ex and we had a 2 yr old boy. As i broke my ex's heart he thought he would break mine and take my son away from me. I had a very bad up bringing and he convinced me that if i had my child i too would be cruel to him. I had not dealt with my childhood issues and i believed him. My worst fear was to bring up my children the way i was brought upi have not become that person but back then i did not have enough faith in myself and i thought at the time it was best for my child to live with his father. Now being strong woman that i have become my biggest regret was not believing in myself
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for 2 yrs i believed that i was the only mother in the world that didnt have their child living with them as the courts do not offer support. i now have become aware that i not alone. it really hurts when you tell people about your situation and they think you have either bashed your child or worse.
not every sisuation is the same. the sad thing is that when you want to talk to some one there is no one that is qualified that is in the same boat and has empathy for my situation. no one can unerstand the pain when they not in same situation. more support needs to be avalible. lets hope with this website things will start to get the ball rolling and they can see there is a need for help for us mums
The Colonel wrote:i love my child wrote:10 yrs ago i broke up with my ex and we had a 2 yr old boy. As i broke my ex's heart he thought he would break mine and take my son away from me. I had a very bad up bringing and he convinced me that if i had my child i too would be cruel to him. I had not dealt with my childhood issues and i believed him. My worst fear was to bring up my children the way i was brought upi have not become that person but back then i did not have enough faith in myself and i thought at the time it was best for my child to live with his father. Now being strong woman that i have become my biggest regret was not believing in myself
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for 2 yrs i believed that i was the only mother in the world that didnt have their child living with them as the courts do not offer support. i now have become aware that i not alone. it really hurts when you tell people about your situation and they think you have either bashed your child or worse.
not every sisuation is the same. the sad thing is that when you want to talk to some one there is no one that is qualified that is in the same boat and has empathy for my situation. no one can unerstand the pain when they not in same situation. more support needs to be avalible. lets hope with this website things will start to get the ball rolling and they can see there is a need for help for us mums
And what about for dads?
You realise that were I ever to divorce (I hope I won't) despite the fact I have provided for my kids, taught them, given them the best things I could, love them and care for them and so much more over the years...
a judge's first decision is whether I, their father, despite all I've done and would unquestionably continue to do, should have any contact with my kids. (And many good fathers are refused contact even when their ex-wife/partner speaks up for them and wants them to see their kids!!!!)![]()
For a mother, it tends to be automatic. The decision is essentially already made before the man gets to court.
Dad's are the neglected ones, but no-one cares. Why not? Because we are male.
Females would never be treated the same way.
Custodial Dad wrote:I am probably not the one that should be replying here but I agree with most of you but not all. Some of you have been shafted from one end to the next. However I would like to tell my short story of my situation. My girlfriend of 4 years left me for one of my friends when my daughter was 1 year old. I was crushed, was ready to settle in and make a life for my family. Unfortunately she used my daughter as a pawn for money. My daughter and I have always been very close. Including the midnite feedings diaper changes and so on. After 5 years of her living with her mom and paying 100 hundred dollars a week in child support her mother decided as well as a doctor and pschologist that she would be better off living with dad. Mom agreed and so it was so. After 6 years of her living with me she is healthy, happy, good student, and well liked. Her mother often cancels visitations, school functions, and drops her off early when she does see her. Her mother has never paid a dime in child support payments. I filed a motion to the court to modify the court order for her mom to pay something in child support. In turn she files a motion that the court give her back custody not even 5 days after receiving the notice that I filed. This has extremely upset my daughter to the point that she does not want to be with her mom in fear that she won't bring her home. I have paid all expenses and when I ask for help on some of the out of pocket things I usually get a "i'll get it to you" and never see it. I am in fear of the damage this is causing between my daughter and mom, in an already touchy situation. I could go on about this probably forever but I guess what I am saying is that some of us dads are not the evil, but really are better for the bringing up of our kids. Sorry for including myself here but I do support all of you, besides its not for us its for the love of our children!
The Colonel wrote:A Father wrote:Colonel,
Sarah Hart has written a book to help women, but the issues she lists in her recent post would apply equally to fathers. Unfortunately for the children, some parents of both genders try to shut the other parent out for various reasons, mostly becasue they want nothing to do with their ex-spouse. Unless there are extenuating circumstances (such as child abuse) it is equally wrong for either parent to shut the other out of their children's lives. The big difference is that because many more mothers than fathers have custody of their children, more fathers than mothers are being shut out of their children's lives.
Their is also the emotional issue of "maternal bonding." Being a male, I have never personally experienced this, but most of the literature on child bearing states that a mother forms a very close bond with her baby as soon as she holds the baby the first time. If the mother does not hold the baby, this bond does not form. A similar bond does not normally form between a father and his child. Thus a mother who is separated from her child has to deal with emotional problems the father who is separated from his child does not experience.
I will admit I have never gone to Sarah Hart's web site, but my bottom line here is that I do not see any bias in her post.
A Father
As a father of four (plus a bump) an emotional bond EQUAL to a mothers bond forms.
It is not greater with either, and I see much bias in her post.
Her book/site is to do with mothers. Why not fathers? Why not mothers and fathers?
The bottom line is that women can kick and scream and try and get what they want, they are always the victim. The man never matters.
If the woman gets the kids, she's the victim of the "nasty, nasty man". If she doesn't get the kids then she is the victim of the same.
The Colonel wrote:i love my child wrote:10 yrs ago i broke up with my ex and we had a 2 yr old boy. As i broke my ex's heart he thought he would break mine and take my son away from me. I had a very bad up bringing and he convinced me that if i had my child i too would be cruel to him. I had not dealt with my childhood issues and i believed him. My worst fear was to bring up my children the way i was brought upi have not become that person but back then i did not have enough faith in myself and i thought at the time it was best for my child to live with his father. Now being strong woman that i have become my biggest regret was not believing in myself
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for 2 yrs i believed that i was the only mother in the world that didnt have their child living with them as the courts do not offer support. i now have become aware that i not alone. it really hurts when you tell people about your situation and they think you have either bashed your child or worse.
not every sisuation is the same. the sad thing is that when you want to talk to some one there is no one that is qualified that is in the same boat and has empathy for my situation. no one can unerstand the pain when they not in same situation. more support needs to be avalible. lets hope with this website things will start to get the ball rolling and they can see there is a need for help for us mums
And what about for dads?
You realise that were I ever to divorce (I hope I won't) despite the fact I have provided for my kids, taught them, given them the best things I could, love them and care for them and so much more over the years...
a judge's first decision is whether I, their father, despite all I've done and would unquestionably continue to do, should have any contact with my kids. (And many good fathers are refused contact even when their ex-wife/partner speaks up for them and wants them to see their kids!!!!)![]()
For a mother, it tends to be automatic. The decision is essentially already made before the man gets to court.
Dad's are the neglected ones, but no-one cares. Why not? Because we are male.
Females would never be treated the same way.
LibbyLou wrote:Does anyone know any mothers who have let their ex-partners have custody of the kids?
I am looking for women in their 20s, 30s or 40s, who have given up custody, to take part in a national newspaper article.
Perhaps they have been ill, have busy careers or for some other reason do not feel able to look after their children full-time. I would like to find mothers who believe they are doing the right thing for their kids by not having custody.
Many Thanks,
Lucy
blonette wrote:
Unfortunately, fathers like you are very rare. Your daughter is lucky to have a father that truly cares about her welfare more than he cares about revenge against her mother. I wish that my ex had cared more about our children than about revenge, because it would have better served our children. Now I cannot speak to him without him becoming verbally abusive, and my children see this on a regular basis. I love them so I just avoid talking to him so that they don't have to see that. I would like custody back, but at the same time, because I gave up, it's not likely to happen.
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