PenisPeople Ruining the World

[Guest]

What???I was trying to say in a democracy have cabinet ministers both male and female. I dont have a problem with a female primeminister. Just as long as both views are taken into account.

What views? The male view and the female view?

So males and females think, lets say, North Korea should be treated differently. Let me guess, all Men believe Korea should be nuked and all Women think we should invite them to a knitting club to talk it over scones and tea.

Condi Rice won't be speed knitting with Koreans any time soon and neither would Thatcher.

[Kalith]

What???I was trying to say in a democracy have cabinet ministers both male and female. I dont have a problem with a female primeminister. Just as long as both views are taken into account.

What views? The male view and the female view?

So males and females think, lets say, North Korea should be treated differently. Let me guess, all Men believe Korea should be nuked and all Women think we should invite them to a knitting club to talk it over scones and tea.

Condi Rice won't be speed knitting with Koreans any time soon and neither would Thatcher.

deffinition of democracy minority loses...thus if more girls they get their way. This in some ways makes democracy crap as if the general public is not aware of the nations status then they will make a crap decision and they will suffer. But seeing how north korea is not a democracy i dont think we will have to worry, they will bomb us without a vote so no point worrying about something that you will never know hit you.

[Guest]

There is disagreement on this issue.

[Guest]

There is disagreement on this issue.

[Guest]

There is disagreement on this issue.

The disagreement on this issue is so highly charged that some have lost the ability to verbalize their views.

[jojo22]

Ok...why should either rule? Both genders see things differently. In an ideal world we should have both genders holding high up positions and bringing their ideas to an equal table and taken into account. No women dethroning men or men supressing women. It should be equal, so women no trying to get equal for past crimes, let it go we are another society now. Men are not the evil to end all evils. And i feel that if women were in charge for so long as men were the world would be the same if not worse. Men stop feeling threatned. All in all as a guy i feel girls will try to change us completly and exile men to an existence similar to what women in the past knew. But it is a senseless in security i have that i supress.

I essentially agree with this - balance is key - not polar opposites - though I would like to see America make the move to their first female president, who will of course, have plenty of males advising her as well.

[Guest]

deffinition of democracy minority loses...

No. The definition of Democracy is that minorities have the advantage in decisions. There is a feedback loop where bad decisions are punished in the next election. A symptom of this feedback loop breaking is when political correctness overtakes common sense. When the feedback loop is broken the symptom is socialism, where most of the nations productivity is used to pay off minorities. It may be "right" and "charitiable", but it is also political apathy overtaking the political process.

[Kalith]

deffinition of democracy minority loses...

No. The definition of Democracy is that minorities have the advantage in decisions. There is a feedback loop where bad decisions are punished in the next election. A symptom of this feedback loop breaking is when political correctness overtakes common sense. When the feedback loop is broken the symptom is socialism, where most of the nations productivity is used to pay off minorities. It may be "right" and "charitiable", but it is also political apathy overtaking the political process.

I have seen very little of this. And through common sense a political leader will play off those who he thinks is going to win...ie the majority. That is why all together i think democracy will fail. If the general public is not seeing what must be done then how can a person in charge do what needs to be done without haveing a mob of angry people offended about sacrifices made in teh short end. Hehe i actually argued with an advanced grade 12 political science class how a dictatership can benifet canada. i am grade 11, sadly i won.

[Guest]

deffinition of democracy minority loses...

No. The definition of Democracy is that minorities have the advantage in decisions. There is a feedback loop where bad decisions are punished in the next election. A symptom of this feedback loop breaking is when political correctness overtakes common sense. When the feedback loop is broken the symptom is socialism, where most of the nations productivity is used to pay off minorities. It may be "right" and "charitiable", but it is also political apathy overtaking the political process.

I have seen very little of this. And through common sense a political leader will play off those who he thinks is going to win...ie the majority. That is why all together i think democracy will fail. If the general public is not seeing what must be done then how can a person in charge do what needs to be done without haveing a mob of angry people offended about sacrifices made in teh short end. Hehe i actually argued with an advanced grade 12 political science class how a dictatership can benifet canada. i am grade 11, sadly i won.

In order I think.

Minorities will vote for what they want, the majority doesn’t care. They don't vote and haven't a clue what they are voting for if they happen to have the day off and find themselves near a place to vote. Apathy.

Politicians will run for the center of any debate to avoid pissing off a minority on either side of any issue, not to get the majority to like them. Winning strategies for politics rely on how effective the district managers are at getting out the vote -in key- sectors of key districts. A well-managed campaign has the best district managers in key places to incite minority voters, whether liberal or conservative, or communist for that matter.

The angry mob will always vote for bread and circuses.

Most people who spend even a little time studying politics find so many flaws in Democracy that the only thing they can say is "it's better than the alternative", or as Churchill put it "Democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried." That’s hardly a glowing recommendation. There have been several examples of benevolent dictatorships that give Democracy a serious challenge. Plato was the first I think to have put it into words, the flaws of Democracy and some counter examples of Dictatorships, but Alexander the Great, Benito Mussolini, Ioannis Metaxas, Julius Caesar, Lee Kuan Yew, Napoleon Bonaparte, Oliver Cromwell and Pericles are possible examples.

[Guest]

I essentially agree with this - balance is key - not polar opposites - though I would like to see America make the move to their first female president, who will of course, have plenty of males advising her as well.

Nonsense. You want a specific female for president because she happens to be a democrat.

In Massachusetts there are two people running for Govenor.

1) A male who managed to get a (really vicious) rapist and murderer out of jail.
2) A female who by her actions, words and her standing in politics is the epitomy of what females should want in politics.

Which one has the support of all the women's rights groups in Massachustts? You get one guess. It's not the male.

[Guest]

I essentially agree with this - balance is key - not polar opposites - though I would like to see America make the move to their first female president, who will of course, have plenty of males advising her as well.

Nonsense. You want a specific female for president because she happens to be a democrat.

In Massachusetts there are two people running for Govenor.

1) A male who managed to get a (really vicious) rapist and murderer out of jail.
2) A female who by her actions, words and her standing in politics is the epitomy of what females should want in politics.

Which one has the support of all the women's rights groups in Massachustts? You get one guess. It's not the female [sic].

[jojo22]

I essentially agree with this - balance is key - not polar opposites - though I would like to see America make the move to their first female president, who will of course, have plenty of males advising her as well.

Nonsense. You want a specific female for president because she happens to be a democrat.

In Massachusetts there are two people running for Govenor.

1) A male who managed to get a (really vicious) rapist and murderer out of jail.
2) A female who by her actions, words and her standing in politics is the epitomy of what females should want in politics.

Which one has the support of all the women's rights groups in Massachustts? You get one guess. It's not the male.

Well, I guess you've got me there - I do want to see the democrats take a whack at things. When one party is in power for too long they start to forget they are elected by the people for the people and become a law unto themselves. I see the same thing in my country - but this time it is the democrats that have been in for 3 terms and my opinion is that the republicans need to have a term next time round because the rule of the democrats for such a lengthy period of time gives rise to corruption.

[Guest]

Condoleezza Rice should be the first female President of the United States.

Rice is smarter than Hillary Clinton, has the right point of view on the issues and has much more experience at the top levels of government.

And Rice has integrity and principles, which Hillary sorely lacks.

[jojo22]

Condoleezza Rice should be the first female President of the United States.

Rice is smarter than Hillary Clinton, has the right point of view on the issues and has much more experience at the top levels of government.

And Rice has integrity and principles, which Hillary sorely lacks.

I would be interested to know what Rice has to say without being under the duress of serving the current administration. I feel she may be constricted by this and obliged to tow the 'party line', even when it might go against the grain. Rice needs the time to be separated from the Bush administration and to let her own political identity be fully known before she runs for president - but this could well be a possibility for the future.

[Guest]

Condoleezza Rice should be the first female President of the United States.

Rice is smarter than Hillary Clinton, has the right point of view on the issues and has much more experience at the top levels of government.

And Rice has integrity and principles, which Hillary sorely lacks.

I would be interested to know what Rice has to say without being under the duress of serving the current administration. I feel she may be constricted by this and obliged to tow the 'party line', even when it might go against the grain. Rice needs the time to be separated from the Bush administration and to let her own political identity be fully known before she runs for president - but this could well be a possibility for the future.

"Duress" is defined as "constraint by threat; coercion." What leads you to believe that Rice is under any "duress"?

Recall that Rice was National Security Advisor in the administration of George H.W. Bush, the present president's father, from 2001 through 2004. Rice is one of the people most responsible for formulating the "party line" of the present Administration.

Has Hillary Clinton "let her own political identity be fully known"? She is a political chameleon without any distinct "political identity." Her views are malleable and transitory depending on the latest opinion polls.