How porn affects women

[Guest]

The Catholic church is paying (and paying too) for this. Justly.

It's unfair to smear an entire church for the misdeeds of a very few. Christianity contains 33% of the world's population and is far an away the largest religion in the world. The Catholic church is the largest demonination of Christianity containing half of the Christians in the world.

A few dozen or even a few thousand bad Catholics can't be a condemnation of the entire religion.

[Guest]

Fair enough. I felt and experianced much the same, but you were a child weren't you? Making those first fumbles with sex shameful keeps children out of trouble.

That only works if the message is consistant from most input sources in their life.

Exactly. It's outdated in my opinion. Outdated by medical advances and technology.

[elliott20]

Fair enough. I felt and experianced much the same, but you were a child weren't you? Making those first fumbles with sex shameful keeps children out of trouble.

That only works if the message is consistant from most input sources in their life.

Exactly. It's outdated in my opinion. Outdated by medical advances and technology.

well, the very concept of forcing everybody to send the same message, and live by the same rules violates the fundamental credo of this free society thing that we as a people love so much. After all, you can't get everybody to agree with you.

And in my opinion, while I wouldn't just go ahead and start encouraging kids to have sex, (in fact, I would still tell kids that sex at a young age is probably not a good idea anyway) I certainly would like the kids to have as much information as they can.

[Guest]

well, the very concept of forcing everybody to send the same message, and live by the same rules violates the fundamental credo of this free society thing that we as a people love so much. After all, you can't get everybody to agree with you.

And in my opinion, while I wouldn't just go ahead and start encouraging kids to have sex, (in fact, I would still tell kids that sex at a young age is probably not a good idea anyway) I certainly would like the kids to have as much information as they can.

I wouldn't tell them to look at porn either.

I think childhood should be extended to 21 as well, rather than 16 or 18. Our society requires both extensive schooling and complex social conditioning beyond that expected in any society in history. We're global in both our society and our economy.

[elliott20]

well, the very concept of forcing everybody to send the same message, and live by the same rules violates the fundamental credo of this free society thing that we as a people love so much. After all, you can't get everybody to agree with you.

And in my opinion, while I wouldn't just go ahead and start encouraging kids to have sex, (in fact, I would still tell kids that sex at a young age is probably not a good idea anyway) I certainly would like the kids to have as much information as they can.

I wouldn't tell them to look at porn either.

I think childhood should be extended to 21 as well, rather than 16 or 18. Our society requires both extensive schooling and complex social conditioning beyond that expected in any society in history. We're global in both our society and our economy.

oh no, I wouldn't tell them to go look at porn for more info either. Going to porn for sex ed info is like hoping to learn how special agents operate from a Mission Impossible movie.

childhood extended to 21? what does that mean exactly? you mean like, in regards to definition of a minor, or age of consent, or what? Though, it actually would make some sense. I mean, legal drinking age in the US is 21 and all...

[Guest]

childhood extended to 21? what does that mean exactly? you mean like, in regards to definition of a minor, or age of consent, or what? Though, it actually would make some sense. I mean, legal drinking age in the US is 21 and all...

A minor under 21, as in ability to enter contracts and emancipation and education requirements.

As far as age of consent and drinking age... that's not driven by the complexity of the world, but rather the immediate society the child experiances. 16 is fine in the UK I guess and 18/21 is fine in the USA... that's determined by factors the society can reasonably control.

[elliott20]

But why 21 though? Is it because that would be the age that most people graduate from college? I'm just trying to understand your reasoning for picking the number 21.

[Guest]

But why 21 though? Is it because that would be the age that most people graduate from college? I'm just trying to understand your reasoning for picking the number 21.

For the same reason it's used as the age alcohol can be bought at.

[elliott20]

But why 21 though? Is it because that would be the age that most people graduate from college? I'm just trying to understand your reasoning for picking the number 21.

For the same reason it's used as the age alcohol can be bought at.

ahh, that works for me.

[mogadishu]

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Neither Curvey nor this other obviously highly intelligent guest like me?

Imagine my chagrin.

I got it, you got it, she got it, he got it. No need to sink to their level. You did run on this off-topic a tad longer than it deserved however.

Sink to their level???

He's a sad retard and total waste of bandwidth.

He turned the this thread into a personal attack on her, he's the one that went off topic. As CB said in another post somewhere, he's a misogynistic troll who can't see what he's doing or admit he's wrong about anything.

Look back over his posts, he does this all the time. He blames others for the things he's doing like a true hypocrite.

[mogadishu]

I don't make guest posts you sad little troll, even when I forgot to log in and accidentally posted as a guest the other day my post was clearly identifiable as me.

If I have anything to say to you I won't hide behind a guest post, I have far more guts than that.

Oh YEAH???

[mogadishu]

When another poster created alternate identities to foster the illusion that someone agreed with him, you said it was a symptom of psychosis. is that still your considered position?

[Guest]

Argumentum ad hominem is not a logical fallacy when the test of relevance is maintained. This is not the case. Please start a new thread someplace else.

[Guest]

Reference Douglas Walton and Robert Metcalf.

[mogadishu]

hmmm... do you mean ad hominem attacks are sound if they identify that someone is not a relevant authority? if you take a look at it again i think you'll find your mistaken.