9/11 The Truth - We Have Been Deceived

[Guest]

.......and explosives can be seen on varying levels exploding as the building falls. watch some of the footage captured by citizens instead of believing the official story all the time.

I saw the video and heard it. Floors falling that fast sound like explosions and the dust is caused by thousands of tons of cement pulverizing office furniture, equipment and human bodies.

Get a brain.

[Guest]

.......and explosives can be seen on varying levels exploding as the building falls. watch some of the footage captured by citizens instead of believing the official story all the time.

I saw the video and heard it. Floors falling that fast sound like explosions and the dust is caused by thousands of tons of cement pulverizing office furniture, equipment and human bodies.

Get a brain.

Don't be daft, the evidence is right in front of your face. God you say some stupid things

[Nefarious]

I believe I read somewhere that the reason there was a big explosion in the basement area was that it was caused by explosions falling down the elevator shafts. Now if this was the case, I would ask a few questions about this explanation.

1/ Was every (I assume - heavy steel) elevator door below the impact point exploded out by the force of the blast?

2/ Assuming that every elevator door was blown out by the force of the blast, how much blast energy would have been left by the time that it reached the basement area - many feet below?

3/ How would the blast energy be able to take out a steel elevator door and still destroy a multi-ton piece of heavy duty equipment at the basement level? The amount of destructive power to do this must have been terrific - yet humans survived down there.

4/ What of reports by people in the basement area that the explosions they heard occurred prior to the plane impacting?

5/ Why were all of the multiple testimonies from workers in the basement area not incorporated into the 9/11 commissions report?

6/ We now hear talk of the fact that the car parking areas under the WTC were previously acknowledged as susceptible to bombs, and bombs also set off under the building by terrorists would seem like a likely line of blame for these underground explosions, so again - why not include the testimony of the underground workers and spin away? Could it be insurance issues that got in the way of this?

I can't help feeling that the truth will never be known, unless the truth is not a threat to money - I feel money will come before all other things. This is the cancer in our society.

[Guest]

More conspiracy theories . . . break out the tinfoil hats.

[Guest]

People who say the collapse of the twin towers was aided by planted explosions and such have no idea of the physics involved in things like that. Plus don't you think people would notice a bunch of workers carrying in large boxes of equipment all the time, then disappearing into the stair wells and into the ceiling cavities all the time?

[Guest]

total & utter bollox - whoever started this thread wants certifying - report yourself to the nearest lunatic asylum

[Guest]

Echoing the previous post by jojo.......there is no doubt it happened and some of the theories put forward are a bit rich. But there are so many unanswered questions and even if it wasn't a conspiracy then Bush should have had security meetings instead of being at the ranch all the time prior to the tragedy. They knew something was on the cards but chose to do nothing - that is the real question here. Why did they ignore security warnings? Doesn't make sense, surely no one could be that lazy and stupid.

Sitting in the classroom .......where was his urgency and authority? Did he then go and hide in a bunker for a few hours?

You may also want to consider how many people have made a fortune from subsequent events?

Something isn't right!!!

Excellent points. You have to "follow the money."


The British Em pire has prospered on piracy, slavery and drug traffic. Since the Middle Ages, there have been two world powers: the Ghibellines and the Guelphs, which is now the World Order. The Guelphs' power grew through its control of banking and international trade.

Every ruling house of Europe is a direct descendant of King William. The Bank of England and the East India Company have ruled the world since the 17th centrury.

This elite ruling class misleads by controlling the media, the education process, and government institituions. They are the mega rich, the World Order, and they contrive wars for iprofit. No war was undertaken without loans by them to governments. The Federal Reserve System and the personal income tax in America have financed the wars.

The World Order of this elite class sees everyone else as peasants and have only contempt for those who are too naive to see that they are being robbed, tricked and enslaved.

The US wouldn't exist without the Bank of England. The Council of Foregin Relations in America is the secret government of the US (its British counterpart is the Royal Instititute of International Affairs): its overseers are the World Order.

There is centralized control over American industry by five New York banks controlled by London: in 1983, these five banks held 470 directorates in 130 major US corporations (average 3.6 directors per major corporation). As of 1983, 53% of the stock in the Fed Reserve Bank of NY was owned by the banks controlled by the house of Rothschild; Citibank has controlling interest.

The power is in a hand of a few, the financial em pire of the Rothschilds: they are the financial rulers of the nations. The American upper class remains servants of the London princes of the World Order. The principal banks controlled by the house of Rothschild are: Chase, JP Morgan, Citicorp, Chemical Bank, Manufacturer's Hanvover, National Bank of Commerce, First Chicago, and National City Bank.

The World Order controls the cititzens of the US through the tax exempt foundations that it has established. These foundations create and implement government policy, education policy and religious doctrine. Some of these foundations include the Rhodes Trust, Brookings Instititue, Travistock Institute, Russell Sage Fdn., Carnegie Insititute, General Education Board, John and Mary Markle Fdn., Rockefeller Fdn., John Slater Fund, Stanford Research Instititute, Hudson Instititute, Ditchley Fdn., and the Peabody Fund.

The Russell Trust at Yale was setup in 1856 to finance the Skull and Bones organization, whose members are the leading front men in America. The Rockefeller "syndicate", controlled by the house of Rothschild, interlocks with America's major banks, corporations, universities and government departments. This network illegally rules the US. Seven men in Wall Street control a great share of industry resources, yet they are merely agents for London interests: it doesn't matter who is elected US president. Read Karl Marx's 1848 "The Communist Manifesto."

Go to scribd dot com and search "World Order Eustace Mullins", "The United States and Britain in Bible Prophecy", "iran-iraq war in the bible" and "Secret Societies of America's Elite - Steven Sora.

Sorry for the typos--I don't have spell check on this computer.

[Guest]

You won't get the hits you want for two of the documents mentioned if you lookup "iraq-iran war in the bible" or "United States and Britain in Bible Prophecy." But you'll find both of these documents at scribd.com if you search "bible prophecy ignored."

[Guest]

I think one (Secret Societies of America's Elite) if not more of the documents on scribd.com are infected and will install spyware on your computer. To see if you have this problem, press ALT-DEL-CTRL and click on "Task Manager". If you see a program named "Project1" running, you are infected. If you end this task, you will not be able to connect to the internet.

The folks at bleepingcomputer.com are helping me to get rid of this spyware. If you have it, go to this site's forum and go to the "Security" section and click on "I am infected, what do I do?" There is a topic called "Project1 Virus."

I contacted scribd.com today to let them know the problem.

You can find these documents other places on the internet if you google them. Maybe they aren't infected.

[Guest]

When will people wake up and realize that Republicans and Democrats are two parties set up to give us the illusion of choice and promote the false left/right paradigm? They are (including the Presidency) all offices bought, paid for, and controlled by groups such as the Bilderberg Group and Council on Foreign Relations. What people don't realize is that Clinton, Bush, and most of those who came before them in the 20th century didn't orchestrate any conspiracies; they were simply puppets being controlled by outside forces.

For more information, go to video.google.com and watch the following (totally free and legal):
Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State
American Dictators (Alex Jones)
Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement

www.infowars.com

[Guest]

The devil is in the world already: he works in the world; he has made many bold attempts already to reach his culmination; and his final manifestation will be the consummation of a long process of development. In the devil's last attempt to oppose God’s plan, he simply will realize his own kingdom, or he will attempt to realize it, and boldly set it up.

The devil, to whom the kingdoms of the world belong, shall succeed in combining all his kingdoms under one head and inspiring them all with the same principle. All the signs of the times point to such a tremendous global power, to such a league of the nations that has control over all things, to such a unity of all religion in which man is exalted and the Christ of the Scriptures is blasphemed.

The dragon’s power and authority itself is limited: it is well that we bear this in mind, for it is to our comfort. It assures us from the outset that the power and authority of this anti-Christian kingdom, however great, is not unlimited and that Christ, who has all power, is mightier than antichrist.

Why are we given a complete picture of antichrist in the book of Revelation? So that we might clearly recognize it when it is revealed. And what then must we do when we see it is come? Must we oppose it. You may ask, "Must we fight it with the sword?" That, of course, is completely impossible. It will come. It must come. And to oppose its coming is entirely vain. Its coming is irresistible. And the battle is not one of the sword.

Here is the patience and the faith of the saints, that in all these times they remain faithful and refuse to deny the Christ and that they wait for the day of His coming.

The kingdom of man under Satan shall be complete: it shall be a kingdom which has sway over all the universe, over all men, over all the powers of creation; it shall be a kingdom in which man worships his own work and in which the devil is lord supreme.

This world power to come shall lay down the rules for religious life in particular: it shall tell all men how they must worship and what they must worship. It shall be a new system of thought and religion, with a new creed, universal in its scope and, at the same time, with a new god. That new god will be the devil incarnate, the great world power, whom all shall admire and worship and for whom all shall erect an image in order that they may worship the same.

At this time to come, there still shall be saints of the Most High on earth: the remnant of the seed of the woman still shall be there; they shall not yet be taken to heaven. And, of course, they will refuse to go along with all this beautiful and worldwide movement. They will refuse to adopt the philosophy; they will refuse to wonder at its great signs; they will refuse to adopt its religion; they will refuse to worship the beast and the dragon.
The Church will refuse to worship the beast; therefore, the saints cannot be tolerated, and they must be discovered so that this great universal kingdom of the devil may be rid of them. It is certain that the difference between the followers of antichrist and the followers of Christ shall be there and this difference shall be very plain. The false prophet, the power of false science and philosophy and religion, shall see to it that the distinction is very public and evident to all so that only his followers may share in the blessings of this great kingdom.

Just as only the followers of Christ shall share in the blessings of the kingdom of God, so also the followers of antichrist only shall reap the benefits of this universal world kingdom. The rest, who do not wear the "mark of the beast," shall be excluded and boycotted in every respect.

All things shall be under the control of this great and universal world power: the very necessities of life shall be in its power. It can surely allow or prevent buying and selling according to its good pleasure. The saints of Christ who do not worship the image, and who refuse to receive the mark of the beast, shall not be able to do business; they shall not be able to buy or to sell. They shall not be able to live along with that great society. They shall not be able to buy the necessities of life. They shall be outcasts, mocked at, held in derision, thrust aside, ousted from society, and killed.

Those shall be terrible days. They shall be more terrible than any form of persecution that the children of God have ever experienced. There shall be no place for them on earth. So terrible shall those days be that many shall fall who appeared to be children of the Most High, and the very elect would not be able to resist were it not for the fact that the days shall be shortened.

God created a world that should glorify Him and be consecrated to Him, but that world tore itself loose from Him and refused to glorify Him. Man has now developed the kingdom of the world without God, and God allows this kingdom of the world to develop to its full extent.

Although man has fallen away from Him, God nevertheless allows man to exercise dominion over the earthly creation and to bring to light all the hidden powers and talents of creation to their fullest degree. In this kingdom we have the anti-Christian beasts described in the book of Revelation, which represent the highest development of the sovereignty of man apart from God, and under the devil they shall develop all the powers of creation without God.

This kingdom to come is the climax of the development of the man of sin: it is the kingdom of man, of the creature, without God, without the seven. And therefore his number is 666, the number of man indeed. You may see him rise before your very eyes in the world of today. Hence, we must watch and pray that we may not fall into temptation. We must be faithful unto the end.

It is not our calling to resist the coming of antichrist, for that is impossible. We cannot prevent his coming; however, we must watch and be prepared. Here is the patience of the saints; here is wisdom. We must know how he will come so that we may recognize his coming and be faithful even unto the end.

God grant that we may be found watching in that day so that we may not be allured by all the beauty and fascination and by the Christian appearance, strength and stability of this world kingdom to come. Let us not be allured by the signs and wonders of the false prophet, but let us remain faithful even unto the very end so that no one may take our crowns.

http://thelambslain.blogspot.com/
OUTLINE OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION

[Guest]

Be careful of the upcoming Oct 14 supposed 'alien mothership' appearing over Alabama.

It could very well be the Blue Beam Project gearing up for the 'scare' tactics to usher in the nwo.

Simply put, aliens don't hold _ press conferences announcing their arrival.

[Guest]

There is a lot of good information in this thread. I added links to the info on The Lamb Slain Blogspot under the heading "The Order of Events."

It's worth taking a look. The New World Order is almost here.

[Guest]

Here is an excellent short document that describes the power elite's blueprint for total control:
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalelite07.htm

"Fifty years ago people simply felt little need to question what they were told to do by those "above" them. But because the human mind is still evolving, now they are starting to do so. And this is why the movement toward globalization and the acceptance of microchip implants is proceeding at such a pace. We are the sleeping giant beginning to stir, and those at the apex of our culture need to shut the prison door tight before we awaken. The elite are only too aware of just how tight a time schedule they are on. Once there is resistance at a key point, the whole thing is so severely disrupted that it will simply collapse."

There are some excellent links in the documents on the above site, such as this one:
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalelite05.htm

"Hollywood director and documentary film maker Aaron Russo has gone in-depth on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, who personally told him that the elite's ultimate goal was to create a microchipped population and that the war on terror was a hoax, Rockefeller having predicted an "event" that would trigger the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan eleven months before 9/11" (see video clip).

[Guest]

Be careful of the upcoming Oct 14 supposed 'alien mothership' appearing over Alabama.

It could very well be the Blue Beam Project gearing up for the 'scare' tactics to usher in the nwo.

Simply put, aliens don't hold _ press conferences announcing their arrival.

If you spent as much time reading books as you do rolling your eyes, you might be able to think outside of the box one day.