What if Jesus was just a man?

[nikko]

SELECTED EXTRACTS FROM RELIGIOUS TEXTS

'Then you must utterly destroy them; you shall make no covenant with them and show them no mercy' (Torah, Book of Deuteronomy 7:1-2)
'Thou shall not kill' (Torah, Book of Exodus 20:13)

'All who take the sword will perish by the sword' (New Testament, Matthew 5:43-44)

'Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but aggress not' (Koran 2:190)

'Whoever fights in the cause of God, then gets killed or attains victory, we will surely grant him a great recompense' (Koran 4:74)

'When all efforts to restore peace prove useless and no words avail, lawful is the flash of steel' (10th Sikh guru, Guru Gobind Singh)

'May your weapons be strong to drive away the attackers, may your arms be powerful enough to check the foes, let your army be glorious, not the evil-doer' (Hinduism's Rig Veda 1-39:2)

[Guest]

Excerpts From the New Testament -- the Christian Bible -- that you ignored

"Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." Matthew 7:12 (New King James Version)

"You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Matthew 19:19 (New King James Version)

"For the commandments, 'You shall not commit adultery,' 'You shall not murder,' 'You shall not steal,' 'You shall not bear false witness,' 'You shall not covet,' and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Romans 13:9 (New King James Version)

" . . . bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not ask them back." Luke 6:28-30 (New King James Version)

"But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also." Matthew 5:39 (New King James Version)

[nikko]

Excerpts From the New Testament -- the Christian Bible -- that you ignored

"Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." Matthew 7:12 (New King James Version)

"You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Matthew 19:19 (New King James Version)

"For the commandments, 'You shall not commit adultery,' 'You shall not murder,' 'You shall not steal,' 'You shall not bear false witness,' 'You shall not covet,' and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Romans 13:9 (New King James Version)

" . . . bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not ask them back." Luke 6:28-30 (New King James Version)

"But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also." Matthew 5:39 (New King James Version)

Thats the way it should be But the truth is diferent

[Guest]

Jesus was just a decent guy who wanted to do good things. Whether hes the son of God or not he had good morals and deserves to be rememberd and respected.

he was the son of god... he did great things...

[Guest]

Excerpts From the New Testament -- the Christian Bible -- that you ignored

"Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." Matthew 7:12 (New King James Version)

"You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Matthew 19:19 (New King James Version)

"For the commandments, 'You shall not commit adultery,' 'You shall not murder,' 'You shall not steal,' 'You shall not bear false witness,' 'You shall not covet,' and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Romans 13:9 (New King James Version)

" . . . bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not ask them back." Luke 6:28-30 (New King James Version)

"But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also." Matthew 5:39 (New King James Version)

Thats the way it should be But the truth is diferent

The difference between "the way it should be" and "the truth" is due to human fallibility.

A righteous law or rule is not rendered wrongful just because it is violated.

The commandment proscribing murder remains righteous even though humans violate it by murdering.

The commandment proscribing stealing is righteous even though humans violate it by stealing.

[Guest]

Jesus was just a decent guy who wanted to do good things. Whether hes the son of God or not he had good morals and deserves to be rememberd and respected.

he was the son of god... he did great things...

He was the most important single man in the history of the world, without question. However, He personally didn't do great things; His followers certainly did.

[Guest]

Jesus Christ is the Son of God:

"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist." 2 John 1:7


"Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist - he denies the Father and the Son… I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray." 1 John 2:22, 26

very well said

[Scott L. Martinez]

I think its side splitting that you people believe a book!

Perhaps if I gave you Harry Potter you'd believe him to be the son of god too?

You people really have to wake up to reality!

[Guest]

I think its side splitting that you people believe a book!

Perhaps if I gave you Harry Potter you'd believe him to be the son of god too?

You people really have to wake up to reality!

ignorant bigot

[Scott L. Martinez]

and I suppose you aren't!

[Guest]

and I suppose you aren't!

Correct.

[nikko]

What if?????

My aunt had a dick then she would have been my uncle.


Jesus was just a normal man and nothing more.

[Scott L. Martinez]

and I suppose you aren't!

Correct.

Sorry, but I know what you've written about gay people Kalel!

That does make you a very ignorant bigot!

[Guest]

and I suppose you aren't!

Correct.

Sorry, but I know what you've written about gay people Kalel!

That does make you a very ignorant bigot!

I am not Kalel.

[Scott L. Martinez]

Well then, you must be his brother!