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How tolerant are we really?

Postby beautiful on Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:08 am

On a scale of 1-5 how tolerant are you of the groups listed below

1 meaning, they annoy the hell out of you and you have no problem being mean, shunning, threatening to hurt and cause damage to the person's body or make their life hell

2. you cant stand them, you think about throwing them in the garbage can and have come close to shooting them but you stop yourself.

3. You don't mind if they do what they do but just be that way in private please.

4. You don't mind if they do what they do, they can be themselves in public and it doesn't bother you.

5. you are accepting of this group. So what if you aren't alike, that's their life and they can live it how they want. You don't care if they talk about it, you don't mind if they choose to be themselves in public including courts and schools and you don't mind inviting the person to your parties either.


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Race

Arabs-

Asians-

Jews-

Caucasians-

Africans-

Hispanics-

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Relgions-

Buddhists-

Hidus-

Wiccans-

Christians-

Scientologists-

Pagans-

Satanists-

Muslims-

Taoists-

Atheists-

Agnostics-

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Sexual preferences-

Gay-

Straight-

.-

Pedophilia-

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Hair color

Blondes-

Brunettes-

Redheads-

Punky colors-

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Facial structures

-big chins

-small chins

-round eyes

-small eyes

-slanted eyes

-low cheekbones

-high cheekbones

-big nose

-small nose

-buckteeth, chipped teeth or not perfect teeth

-perfect teeth

-big ears

-little ears


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Body

-obese

-fat

-meat on the bones but not fat or skinny, healthy

-petite and naturally thin

- unnaturally thin and skeletal

-big muscles

-small muscles

-no muscles

-big tits

-hand sized tits

-no tits

-huge penis

-big penis

-medium penis

-small penis

-big butt

-medium butt

-small butt

-no butt

-long legs

-short legs

-tall person

-medium sized person

-short person

-midget (little people)

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Income

-homeless person

-low class

-middle class

-upper middle class

-rich

-filthy rich

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upbringing in an enviroment-

-raised in an orphange

-raised in a trailer park

-raised in a cardboard box

-raised in a foster home

-raised in a shack

-raised in a small brick house in the ghetto

-raised on a farm

-raised in the city

-raised in an apartment

-raised in a nice pretty clean home

-raised in a huge mansion


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Music

-country music

-Jazz

-Rap

-Rock

-Punk

-Emo

-Goth

-Industrial

-Opera

-Classical

-Blues

-Middle Eastern

-Celtic

-African

-Asian music
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Postby THAT_GUEST on Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:17 am

going through the board offers a lot of evidence that tolerance is sort of lacking amongst humans. But there aren't really enough members to get an accurate sample or adequte numbers to draw any solid conclusions from.

I think there is a lot of bigotry and hate out there, but when it comes down to it, if someone needs help, I think most people would be able to forget their issues and help another person out.
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Postby Ronja on Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:43 am

I tolerate everyone, as long as they're not hurting anyone else. Especially juging based on upbringing or skincolour seems rediculous to me. That doesn't really tell anything about how a person is today, wich values the person have etc.

I know people of all colours and religions. I have close friends that are gay. I know people raised in mansions, and persons raised in orphanages. All that doesn't matter as long as you're a decent person.

We're all just humans.

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:33 pm

Ronja wrote:I tolerate everyone, as long as they're not hurting anyone else. Especially juging based on upbringing or skincolour seems rediculous to me. That doesn't really tell anything about how a person is today, wich values the person have etc.

I know people of all colours and religions. I have close friends that are gay. I know people raised in mansions, and persons raised in orphanages. All that doesn't matter as long as you're a decent person.

We're all just humans.


I agree.

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Postby beautiful on Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:04 pm

Ronja wrote:I tolerate everyone, as long as they're not hurting anyone else. Especially juging based on upbringing or skincolour seems rediculous to me. That doesn't really tell anything about how a person is today, wich values the person have etc.

I know people of all colours and religions. I have close friends that are gay. I know people raised in mansions, and persons raised in orphanages. All that doesn't matter as long as you're a decent person.

We're all just humans.



I do think that people are taking tolerance as a one road attempt meaning it should apply only to them and when it comes to their opposition oh hell no. No tolerance back. For example, we aren't supposed to have religion in schools period but muslims asked for prayer time and recieved that which goes to show you that it isn't all religions. It seems like the rules should apply to all or none.

I don't have problems with body size, upbringing, religious preferences, skin tone or if you are straight or gay.

However, people have problems with me because I am skinny and bigger women have no problems making rude intolerant remarks, stuff that if I were to say would make her go to Oprah to spread plump awarenes. They have problems with me because my skin tone is pale and they openly say rude things that you would think is something they wouldn't want others to say about them but I'm supposed to stay silent. I'm not religious so don't have to go through anything regarding that but I have seen unfairness and intolerance towards all types of religions but when it comes to taking it to courts to try to get it banned alltogether, I've seen more cases of intolerance towards christianity and people going so far as to get it removed and in some cases achieving just that clearly showing we are being taught underneath it all to tolerate just certain things and if certain things have opposition then it's okay to not tolerate them because there will be no retribution.

Our priorities aren't straight and while people do have their own minds, people follow the rules of societies and mimick what society is currently preaching leaving the masses of asses scouting for their next target of despise.

Smoking cigarettes is bad. Cigarette smokers are bad. Cigar smokers are okay!


Tthe only thing on the list I can't stand are pedophiles. I don't like what they do, I don't think it's appropriate but I'm not going to go out of my way to harm a pedophile that isn't doing anything wrong. It's different if I caught the person trying to mess with a family member or lure a child in front of my face, I would do something about it.

So I don't care what color you are, if you are gay or straight, what your religion is but if you are an adult trying to have sex with a child, I'm going to kick your ass.
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Postby Winky89 on Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:59 pm

The only religion I particularly have a problem with are Jehovah's Witnesses. Fair enough, have a very strong faith but dont try to preach to people. A couple came round knocking at my door and my 14 yr old sister answered. Although she initially said that she wasnt interested, the people kept asking questions about what she thought about the state of the world today. I didnt hear the door to start with but came down the stairs to the door and said firmly that we werent interested. The couple finally decided to give up...

The reason I have a problem with the religion is that unless God truly does exist and give a toss about each and every one of us, my family would not exist. My gran who has a blood disorder (it doesnt clot properly) and would have died at the age of 12 or so when she fell off her bike and needed platelets and a blood transfusion to keep her alive. My understanding is that if there is a god, then he was the one who created the technology or allowed the technology to be created that makes it possible for people to be kept alive.

I found it very hard when a friend of mine who is a Jehovah's Witness, told me that her grandmother was slowly bleeding to death but that she wouldnt agree to a transfusion as it was god's decision whether to let her live or not.

So, apart from that, I dont really have a problem with anyone else, as long as they dont preach to me I say live and let live.

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Postby beautiful on Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:26 pm

Daniellef wrote:The only religion I particularly have a problem with are Jehovah's Witnesses. Fair enough, have a very strong faith but dont try to preach to people. A couple came round knocking at my door and my 14 yr old sister answered. Although she initially said that she wasnt interested, the people kept asking questions about what she thought about the state of the world today. I didnt hear the door to start with but came down the stairs to the door and said firmly that we werent interested. The couple finally decided to give up...

The reason I have a problem with the religion is that unless God truly does exist and give a toss about each and every one of us, my family would not exist. My gran who has a blood disorder (it doesnt clot properly) and would have died at the age of 12 or so when she fell off her bike and needed platelets and a blood transfusion to keep her alive. My understanding is that if there is a god, then he was the one who created the technology or allowed the technology to be created that makes it possible for people to be kept alive.

I found it very hard when a friend of mine who is a Jehovah's Witness, told me that her grandmother was slowly bleeding to death but that she wouldnt agree to a transfusion as it was god's decision whether to let her live or not.

So, apart from that, I dont really have a problem with anyone else, as long as they dont preach to me I say live and let live.


You have your reasons and right to have your opinion on something you don't like and apart of being tolerant is knowing you don't agree with something but accepting that they have their own rights to what they believe in and live their life without feeling belittled.

I do agree that trying to impose their way of life on you isn't right as that is an indicator of lack of tolerance on their behalf as well.
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Postby Guest on Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:37 pm

Daniellef wrote:The only religion I particularly have a problem with are Jehovah's Witnesses. Fair enough, have a very strong faith but dont try to preach to people. A couple came round knocking at my door and my 14 yr old sister answered. Although she initially said that she wasnt interested, the people kept asking questions about what she thought about the state of the world today. I didnt hear the door to start with but came down the stairs to the door and said firmly that we werent interested. The couple finally decided to give up...

The reason I have a problem with the religion is that unless God truly does exist and give a toss about each and every one of us, my family would not exist. My gran who has a blood disorder (it doesnt clot properly) and would have died at the age of 12 or so when she fell off her bike and needed platelets and a blood transfusion to keep her alive. My understanding is that if there is a god, then he was the one who created the technology or allowed the technology to be created that makes it possible for people to be kept alive.

I found it very hard when a friend of mine who is a Jehovah's Witness, told me that her grandmother was slowly bleeding to death but that she wouldnt agree to a transfusion as it was god's decision whether to let her live or not.

So, apart from that, I dont really have a problem with anyone else, as long as they dont preach to me I say live and let live.


You know, that they believe only 144,000 will make it to heaven. Something about 12 tribes of 1,000 souls in 12 kingdoms, or some like organization. At any rate, I am a pretty good soul, but given those numbers, and the fact that I am not completely spotless, I am not sure if I would be among those 144,000 chosen souls. Moreover, they supposedly do not believe in hell. So this begs the question then of why live a life of this religion if your chances of continuing on to the afterall are so slim, where even if you are really good person, the chances of you making it are less probably then winning the lottery--especially if living like a sinner will not decree you are sentenced to hell.

I kind of like this religion, for I can live it up a bit and not fear eternal damnation. When I am done, I am done. Just nothingness, so why should I fear that? I think, if indeed it is true that Jehova Witnesses really believe this, this religion makes more an argument for being a sinner than a saint.

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Postby marymarymaryuk on Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:46 pm

We all live in a world where money rules over people. We, in the West are brainwashed to put people and humans aside .
Money is the new god but money does not buy happiness. I am inclined to think that when you hit a certain age, you will look back on the people who you have met and make up your own mind. I have no problem with faith so long as you live a good and clean life and raise your children to respect themselves and each other and the rest of the human race.
I do have a problem with people who force their own religion down other peoples traps and who think that their way is the only way. I also have a problem with people who confuse their background and culture with everyone else and with how they see the rest of society.
If we preach to others on how they should live, we will not allow for our minds to be open . There is only one god or higher being. Its fundamentaly up to you how you live your life and we are all born the same way and we will all die eventually. Its what you do in the middle that counts and all religion is ok so long as you know your own mind and dont hurt people along the way.
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Re: How tolerant are we really?

Postby Blond Adult Girl on Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:50 pm

Race

Arabs-3

Asians-4

Jews-4

Caucasians-5

Africans-4

Hispanics-4

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Relgions

Buddhists-4

Hidus-3

Wiccans-3

Christians-4

Scientologists-3

Pagans-3

Satanists-3

Muslims-3

Taoists-3

Atheists-4

Agnostics-3

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Sexual preferences

Gay-3

Straight-5

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Pedophilia-2

The rest all get 5's

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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:12 pm

. wrote:I don't tolerate gay men. Their lifestyle & promiscuity is responsible for killing 10,000+ hemophiliacs and then millions of innocent people and children.


I don't tolerate liberals that want to teach toleration. This only teachs people to have a blind eye to what's not good for society as a whole!

Just as everyone here would not tolerate a pedophile... I do not tolerate other deviants that, in the process of fighting for their rights, open the doors for other's like NA MB LA to have their say!


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Postby beautiful on Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:42 pm

. wrote:I don't tolerate gay men. Their lifestyle & promiscuity is responsible for killing 10,000+ hemophiliacs and then millions of innocent people and children.


I don't tolerate liberals that want to teach toleration. This only teachs people to have a blind eye to what's not good for society as a whole!

Just as everyone here would not tolerate a pedophile... I do not tolerate other deviants that, in the process of fighting for their rights, open the doors for other's like NA MB LA to have their say!


I'm guessing you're going on about the aids thing again. I'd be happy when the ones responsible for aids would step up to the plate rather than using gays and Africans as their scapegoats.

Do you even know how N am bla became intertwined with the gay rights movement in the first place?

Does the gay rights movement now think of Na mb la as apart of their movement?

Mistakes happen and anyone can keep hate alive by bringing up the usual "Oh yeah, well your kind did this several decades ago and your kind did this several hundred years ago and your kind did this several thousands of years ago."

Part of living an existance of misery is harboring pain and hatred of the past. When people hurt or upset you, after so long you have to take responsibility for your own feelings of resentment and move on because if you don't, not only will you be miserable forever but chances are when you snap, you'll take it out on people that remind you of your pain or hate that really are nothing like your object of hatred.

Now having said this, you have your right to feel what you really feel but do you feel this way based on first hand experience like being around gays alot, conversing about their point of view and yours or do you get this from reading what you want to read in the press and hearsay from other accounts?

Go make some gay friends for a month at least. Speak to them, hang out with them, come back and tell me if your opinion is the same.
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Postby beautiful on Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:11 pm

. wrote:
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. wrote:I don't tolerate gay men. Their lifestyle & promiscuity is responsible for killing 10,000+ hemophiliacs and then millions of innocent people and children.


I don't tolerate liberals that want to teach toleration. This only teachs people to have a blind eye to what's not good for society as a whole!

Just as everyone here would not tolerate a pedophile... I do not tolerate other deviants that, in the process of fighting for their rights, open the doors for other's like NA MB LA to have their say!


I'm guessing you're going on about the aids thing again. I'd be happy when the ones responsible for aids would step up to the plate rather than using gays and Africans as their scapegoats.

Do you even know how N am bla became intertwined with the gay rights movement in the first place?
Homosexual sex is, by definition, DEVIANT.
If one deviant sexual group fights and wins rights to their lifestyle....
They fight and win the rights for ALL DEVIANT SEXUAL GROUPS!
Because, as a LIBERAL RUN SOCIETY, everyone has EQUAL RIGHTS!



Does the gay rights movement now think of Na mb la as apart of their movement?
No. Anita Bryant and others EXPOSED the colaberation of the two groups and made it too hot for them to stay together!
And, IMO, if she and others had said nothing...NA MB LA would STILL be a part of the international groups!



Only a fool would want to make the same mistakes other made!

Part of living an existance of misery is harboring pain and hatred of the past. When people hurt or upset you, after so long you have to take responsibility for your own feelings of resentment and move on because if you don't, not only will you be miserable forever but chances are when you snap, you'll take it out on people that remind you of your pain or hate that really are nothing like your object of hatred.
Don't confuse HATE with GOOD JUDGEMENT and COMMON SENSE!
But you don't want GOOD JUDGEMENT and COMMON SENSE do you?
For if you did... you would use them in your arguement!



I am sure they are all nice people.
I have no doubt!
But their lifestyle has no real benefit for civilization!
The rights they fight for are selfish rights that benefit only them and damage the health of the world and the family institution that makes the world a better place for our children!



You must be in the UK (I'm assuming because I live in the U.S and it sure as hell isn't liberal here!)

When you say you are sure that they are all nice people but then you claim I'm not using common sense and good judgement well let's see you don't have first hand experience around the gay community. You probably don't even really know any gay people and also people treat gays as God's mistake but umm isn't God infallible? Which is it?

Maybe gays are a gift from God to keep people whining about the population problem happy. Maybe gays are a form of balance. Maybe you are scared that all people will convert into being gay hence creating a problem in society when isn't being straight natural? Are you scared that oneday your children will have to pretend to be gay in order to fit in?

Don't worry! It's not going to happen!
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Postby beautiful on Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:25 pm

. wrote:That's a lot of maybe's!
But I prefer to stick to the facts.
Gay men lead a VERY promiscuous lifestyle that WAS responsible for the introduction of AIDS into society!
Gay men STILL live that very promiscuous lifestyle!
And as a man that loves sex from women.
I KNOW gay men won't give up that promiscous lifestyle within their group!
And until a heterosexual couple with very few hedonistic deviant desires and no promiscous history starts the next STD plague...
I will always look down upon the gay lifestyle and the damage it WILL have on us AGAIN!

And I might add..

Homosexual rights to have children TEACH children that two mommies is the same as a mother and father. Hence... a father is not needed.
Homosexual rights to have children TEACH children that two fathers is the same as a mother anf father. Hence... a mother is not needed!

Both of those scenarios is not what's best for a child to grow up with!
and BOTH are not best for society as a whole!


Would it be considered a promiscuous lifestyle if gays were married?
Africans with aids were heterosexual, are you going to tell me gays from another continent are to blame for that?

There is no such thing as gay aids and it only became a threat when it hit bisexuals and heterosexuals. I guess the plan just didn't work, even the smartest scientists couldn't think before hand that not all gays were strictly gay...oops!

You really don't buy the green monkey theory do you?

So were gays already in existance taught in school that it's okay to have mommy and mommy, daddy and daddy hence resulting in their gayness today?
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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:10 pm

Losing the other sex just teaches children that the opposite sex is disposable and unnessesary in the raising of a child.
Now you have no arguement for keeping parents together for the welfare of the child!


That's rubbish. It fails even basic logic.

Many kids are brought up by one parent with out contact from the other parent, either by death, divorce or separation.

Other kids are brought up by other relatives, adopted parents, foster parents, or in care homes.

The vast majority, turn out just fine.

It does not take a mother and father to bring up a child well. It takes someone, single or together, male or female, gay or straight, biological or not, to love them, care for them and provide for them.

With the amount of kids in care, needing adoption, it is kinder for them to have love from a gay family, than in what amounts to little better than a state prison.

The most homophobic incidentally, happen to be the most insecure about their sexuality.

You ought to learn to spell as well, it does somewhat prove my point about you being under-educated!

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