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Postby thebigone on Wed May 16, 2007 6:25 pm

May I ask, what is it that scares you about foreign people? You do realise that the indigenous population in the UK is now just 52%. Very soon we are going to become the minority in our own country. In places like Leicester and Bradford, this is already the case.


I am not scared of foreign people, I am resentful of the fact that they can waltz into our country, take our jobs, play our benefits system and play the race card if we object, fill up our schools with their spawn and bleed our health system dry. I am very well aware that our indigenous population is at crisis point, I come from an area where the Asians outnumber the whites 2 to one, and where there are NO white kids in schools but these places never get mentioned because if they were the whole of the rest of the country would see what was really happening. Thankfully the BNP are taking a good stance there. We are becoming a minority in our own country when it comes to rights and jobs, benefits and housing. Take note of the Romanian Demetrie family, all 80 of them, who have all but taken over Stroud....they should all be packed up and shipped out tout suite. One worker may have the right to come here but he has absolutely NO right to bring his whole criminal stinking brood with him. The sooner we get out of Europe and leave these vermin behind the better.

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Postby SM on Thu May 17, 2007 5:53 am

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May I ask, what is it that scares you about foreign people? You do realise that the indigenous population in the UK is now just 52%. Very soon we are going to become the minority in our own country. In places like Leicester and Bradford, this is already the case.


I am not scared of foreign people, I am resentful of the fact that they can waltz into our country, take our jobs, play our benefits system and play the race card if we object, fill up our schools with their spawn and bleed our health system dry. I am very well aware that our indigenous population is at crisis point, I come from an area where the Asians outnumber the whites 2 to one, and where there are NO white kids in schools but these places never get mentioned because if they were the whole of the rest of the country would see what was really happening. Thankfully the BNP are taking a good stance there. We are becoming a minority in our own country when it comes to rights and jobs, benefits and housing. Take note of the Romanian Demetrie family, all 80 of them, who have all but taken over Stroud....they should all be packed up and shipped out tout suite. One worker may have the right to come here but he has absolutely NO right to bring his whole criminal stinking brood with him. The sooner we get out of Europe and leave these vermin behind the better.


But we never will get out of Europe so why fight what is inevitable?

Plus, do you not think that there are many British families playing the benefits, with second and third generations signing on, just like mummy and daddy taught us. Complain about these people and they play the invalid card.

And let's face it, if every foreign person went home tomorrow, do you think your tax bill would fall? Do you think unemployment would fall? Do you think all the British people who don't want to work, will suddenly want to?

Plus you shouldn't go around being so angry - it's bad for your blood pressure.

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Postby ILWL on Thu May 17, 2007 10:55 am

Personally - I think they (Or is that we) should get rid of hypocritical posh people!

Toffs and the middle classes OUT NOW!

I am also going to start a campaign to get rid of all them lazy parasites who achieve nothing for society and yet sit back (In parliament) with their hands out demanding that Joe Muggins here fund their pretentious lifestyle!

BIG ONE - I can well understand your frustrations with the whole thing but would say that the BNP are not the solution - but part of the problem!

SM - Is it possible to be Anti - Immigration and yet not anti immigrant!

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Postby thebigone on Thu May 17, 2007 3:21 pm

But we never will get out of Europe so why fight what is inevitable? ....


With that attitude we might as well surrender our whole existence to the creeping tide of vagrants coming over from Eastern Europe and the Third World. We will get out of Europe, in time, but not if we don't fight for it.

And let's face it, if every foreign person went home tomorrow, do you think your tax bill would fall? Do you think unemployment would fall? Do you think all the British people who don't want to work, will suddenly want to?



At least we will be able to find a job that has not been stolen by some pikey from Romania or some pipe bender from Poland and their tribe. I don't care whether my tax bill falls, at least I could send my kid to a school with people of his own race, who speak his language and could find a hospital bed that wasn't taken up by some health tourist come over to abuse the system my taxes have paid for.

Take off your rose coloured spex and have a look around, we are sinking under a tide of beggars, thieves, scroungers, pickpockets, prostitutes, pimps and organised crime and they are all coming from the sub continent and eastern europe. It is a mire of the government's making but lazy voters aren't taking a stand and changing it because they are so frightened of being labelled racist or xenophobic when the only thing they want to be is PATRIOTIC but are crapped on from above by the PC brigade. Soon the land won't be worth fighting for because it will be the most corrupt, bankrupt and disease ridden nation on the planet and will make Zimbabwe look like a day in paradise.

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Postby Gladys on Thu May 17, 2007 7:17 pm

thebigone wrote:
But we never will get out of Europe so why fight what is inevitable? ....


With that attitude we might as well surrender our whole existence to the creeping tide of vagrants coming over from Eastern Europe and the Third World. We will get out of Europe, in time, but not if we don't fight for it.

And let's face it, if every foreign person went home tomorrow, do you think your tax bill would fall? Do you think unemployment would fall? Do you think all the British people who don't want to work, will suddenly want to?



At least we will be able to find a job that has not been stolen by some pikey from Romania or some pipe bender from Poland and their tribe. I don't care whether my tax bill falls, at least I could send my kid to a school with people of his own race, who speak his language and could find a hospital bed that wasn't taken up by some health tourist come over to abuse the system my taxes have paid for.

Take off your rose coloured spex and have a look around, we are sinking under a tide of beggars, thieves, scroungers, pickpockets, prostitutes, pimps and organised crime and they are all coming from the sub continent and eastern europe. It is a mire of the government's making but lazy voters aren't taking a stand and changing it because they are so frightened of being labelled racist or xenophobic when the only thing they want to be is PATRIOTIC but are crapped on from above by the PC brigade. Soon the land won't be worth fighting for because it will be the most corrupt, bankrupt and disease ridden nation on the planet and will make Zimbabwe look like a day in paradise.


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Postby SM on Fri May 18, 2007 7:26 am

Gladys wrote:
thebigone wrote:
But we never will get out of Europe so why fight what is inevitable? ....


With that attitude we might as well surrender our whole existence to the creeping tide of vagrants coming over from Eastern Europe and the Third World. We will get out of Europe, in time, but not if we don't fight for it.

And let's face it, if every foreign person went home tomorrow, do you think your tax bill would fall? Do you think unemployment would fall? Do you think all the British people who don't want to work, will suddenly want to?



At least we will be able to find a job that has not been stolen by some pikey from Romania or some pipe bender from Poland and their tribe. I don't care whether my tax bill falls, at least I could send my kid to a school with people of his own race, who speak his language and could find a hospital bed that wasn't taken up by some health tourist come over to abuse the system my taxes have paid for.

Take off your rose coloured spex and have a look around, we are sinking under a tide of beggars, thieves, scroungers, pickpockets, prostitutes, pimps and organised crime and they are all coming from the sub continent and eastern europe. It is a mire of the government's making but lazy voters aren't taking a stand and changing it because they are so frightened of being labelled racist or xenophobic when the only thing they want to be is PATRIOTIC but are crapped on from above by the PC brigade. Soon the land won't be worth fighting for because it will be the most corrupt, bankrupt and disease ridden nation on the planet and will make Zimbabwe look like a day in paradise.


here, here!


What an absolute load of rubbish. And for the other poster to post 'here here' just shows how little you know about the people (races) that you are slagging off.

If anyone is wearing rose tints, it's YOU! You are stereotyping races. Calling them 'beggars, thieves, scroungers, pickpockets, prostitutes, pimps and organised crime'. How do you know that they are all these things?

And why compare the UK to Zimbabwe? More 'SHOCK SHOCK HORROR HORROR' poison to get the uneducated to applaud you by jumping on the bandwagon with 'here, here' posts. You know nothing about eastern Europeans, just like your father probably didn't know anything about Asian Indians and Pakistanis, but probably had the same attitude, and your Grandfather had the same about Africans. Let me guess, 'they'll steal all our women with their 12 inch dicks - the country will be ruined and all the kids will be coffee coloured'. Don't try and deny it. That was the equivalent of what you are saying today, back in the 1950's and 60's. And look how wrong they were then. Good old Blighty is still here, marching forwards as one of the great places in the world to live.

Let's see you come back with an actual argument, rather than just spewing out verbal poison and making very broad-brush statements.

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Postby thebigone on Fri May 18, 2007 7:00 pm

You seem to be advocating mass immigration and the decline of our great nation into the cess pit of 'multiculturalism'. Let me tell you I have plenty of experience of Asians and Eastern Europeans alike, they are all pikeys in their own different ways, Asians are the drug masters (Pakis, Chinese, Vietnamese) and the Eastern Europeans are the beggars, pickpockets and benefit thieves (Romanians, Bulgarians and Poles). There is no need to stereotype anything, it is a fact that these type of people are criminals. Read your local paper. Now unless you come from one of these groups yourself and are totally biased to save your own skin, then you are ducking your head in the sand and avoiding seeing what is there. There is none so blind as WILL NOT SEE. I, and many many others, see perfectly well what is going on because we live (d) in those areas and either are still trapped there or have been driven out. I don't care what people in the 50's and 60's thought, that is not relevant to what is happening NOW. Remember Enoch Powell and his rivers of blood speech, well look around sweetie, he was right all along.

Good old Blighty is a cess pool, it is a mire of disease (HIV and TB), benefit fraud, poor education, collapsed health service and out of control crime because the powers that be won't listen to the public who voted for them and close the borders and round up the illegals and boot them out to the nearest dry land, ie France. Frankly, good old Blighty is not worth saving, it is terminally ill and should be put out of its misery.

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Postby SM on Fri May 18, 2007 7:18 pm

thebigone wrote:You seem to be advocating mass immigration and the decline of our great nation into the cess pit of 'multiculturalism'. Let me tell you I have plenty of experience of Asians and Eastern Europeans alike, they are all pikeys in their own different ways, Asians are the drug masters (Pakis, Chinese, Vietnamese) and the Eastern Europeans are the beggars, pickpockets and benefit thieves (Romanians, Bulgarians and Poles). There is no need to stereotype anything, it is a fact that these type of people are criminals. Read your local paper. Now unless you come from one of these groups yourself and are totally biased to save your own skin, then you are ducking your head in the sand and avoiding seeing what is there. There is none so blind as WILL NOT SEE. I, and many many others, see perfectly well what is going on because we live (d) in those areas and either are still trapped there or have been driven out. I don't care what people in the 50's and 60's thought, that is not relevant to what is happening NOW. Remember Enoch Powell and his rivers of blood speech, well look around sweetie, he was right all along.

Good old Blighty is a cess pool, it is a mire of disease (HIV and TB), benefit fraud, poor education, collapsed health service and out of control crime because the powers that be won't listen to the public who voted for them and close the borders and round up the illegals and boot them out to the nearest dry land, ie France. Frankly, good old Blighty is not worth saving, it is terminally ill and should be put out of its misery.


Can't you see what you are doing? You are saying all people from the countries that you mention are all the things that you mention. There is no way that you could possibly know this. Unless of course you have some magical powers or personally know every single immigrant who has come into this country. I'm sorry but your argument is not convincing me one little bit.

Do you have the same attitude towards 2nd generation Asians or 3rd generation Blacks?

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Postby thebigone on Fri May 18, 2007 10:37 pm

You mean the same 2nd generation Asians who run the drug dens and prostitution rings? The ones decked out in gold who run around in brand new Mercs but don't have jobs? The 3rd generation blacks who take guns into schools and make the streets into ghettoes? The same ones who deal crack to kids and who will shoot anyone who looks at them crooked? The Romanians who are responsible for 80% of the pickpocketing crime in London? The Demetri family who scam benefits and health services and schooling from Stroud just because they can but contribute NOTHING to the society in which they live? The HIV clinic and local TB clinic which are full to bursting with immigrants who bring their vile diseases with them? What part of immigration is actually GOOD for this country, because I for one cannot see it, and there are millions of other disaffected and disillusioned white working class people out there who can't either.

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Postby SM on Sat May 19, 2007 6:26 am

I was chatting to a Polish lady yesterday. She was very nice. She was just sending some money home to her son. Just seemed like an average middle-class lady.

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Postby thebigone on Sat May 19, 2007 1:27 pm

Money that has been taken out of the British economy and into the Polish economy. Meanwhile she is still using our services, our health service, our police and our housing but not contributing back into the society by spending the money in our economy.

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Postby SM on Sat May 19, 2007 6:21 pm

She pays Council Tax just like you and me. Also pays NI, Income Tax, VAT and Duty.

I was talking to a lady from the Ukraine today, she was in a full time job as an Office Manager. No signs of drugs or prostitution, and I still had the contents of my pockets at the end of the conversation.

Maybe it's just me. They can probably tell that I am not just another Idiot White Girl. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now where was that constructive argument that you were trying to put together?

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Postby thebigone on Sat May 19, 2007 9:03 pm

Can't you find any indigenous white English people to speak to? Are they so few and far between that you can't find one?

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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Sat May 19, 2007 11:11 pm

THAT_GUEST wrote:OK, so I know this is bound to get me a few hate posts, bring them on, but this issue has been getting on my nerves, severely. I think that if someone is going to relocate to a new country; for example Mexicans crossing into the US, and we are going to allow it, then they should have to have English speaking ability. Same goes for any nationality. Why should those of us that were born here have to learn everyone else's language to accomodate them?

Immigrants here in the states actually expect citizens to go learn their language.....I would say load the 747's up and send them back until they can speak English with the best!


I completely agree TG! Every immigrant that comes here should be forced to learn English! We are one nation, and we should use one common tounge!

BTW, we can use those 747's to shoot-on-sight the illegals trying to get into this country!
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Postby Lena on Sun May 20, 2007 3:30 am

ENGLISH ONLY ! If they don't like it , toooooo bad!
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