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Postby Amnesia on Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:21 am

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Blond Adult Girl wrote:Actually Amnesia, many colleges across America require that you take at least 2 years of foreign language in highschool, and I believe the highschool classes of 2017 on up will be required to take a foreign language class in order to graduate.

I don't think its all of the highschools, but it'll probably be alot of them.

Many schools across the world require you to take a foreign language. But I don't see where it said it was mandatory for US students to take "Spanish" as there foreign language.


It could be Spanish, Russian, German, or whatever. The bottom line is it ISN'T English.

Yes... that's why it's called a "foreign" language :lol: . You think it's bad for Americans to be forced to study a foreign language for 2 years?


Sorry, I was just saying that the public education system is gradually forcing us to speak a language other then our native language-English. That is wrong and is detrimental to our soverignty.

Why? and how so?


Abraham lincoln once said that a "house divided against itself will not stand." A nation where everybody speaks a different language and is unable to communicate in an efficient and organized fashion will fall. English allows us to communicate with eachother, therefore, it should be the national language of the united States.

I played basketball in highschool, and at all times, we were on the same page. We didn't go off and do our own thing. We worked together. Whatever play was called, whatever defense was called, it was our job to make sure that it was run properly. If two of our players played man to man defense while the other 3 played zone-when we were ALL supposed to play zone defense-the opposing team will get easy buckets on us.

Language is the same way. A countrys citizens must be able to work together and communicate-how can they do that if they don't know what they are saying to eachother?

A nation with a bunch of different toungs is like a basketball team that has its players running whatever defense each individual chooses: its doomed to disaster.

:laff: Your analagy sucks :lol: . Still dont see what the harm is in studying a foreign language. Throwing in a year of Spanish with Biology isn't going to destroy the USA.

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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:32 am

Amnesia wrote:
Blond Adult Girl wrote:
Amnesia wrote:
Blond Adult Girl wrote:
Amnesia wrote:
Blond Adult Girl wrote:
Amnesia wrote:
Blond Adult Girl wrote:Actually Amnesia, many colleges across America require that you take at least 2 years of foreign language in highschool, and I believe the highschool classes of 2017 on up will be required to take a foreign language class in order to graduate.

I don't think its all of the highschools, but it'll probably be alot of them.

Many schools across the world require you to take a foreign language. But I don't see where it said it was mandatory for US students to take "Spanish" as there foreign language.


It could be Spanish, Russian, German, or whatever. The bottom line is it ISN'T English.

Yes... that's why it's called a "foreign" language :lol: . You think it's bad for Americans to be forced to study a foreign language for 2 years?


Sorry, I was just saying that the public education system is gradually forcing us to speak a language other then our native language-English. That is wrong and is detrimental to our soverignty.

Why? and how so?


Abraham lincoln once said that a "house divided against itself will not stand." A nation where everybody speaks a different language and is unable to communicate in an efficient and organized fashion will fall. English allows us to communicate with eachother, therefore, it should be the national language of the united States.

I played basketball in highschool, and at all times, we were on the same page. We didn't go off and do our own thing. We worked together. Whatever play was called, whatever defense was called, it was our job to make sure that it was run properly. If two of our players played man to man defense while the other 3 played zone-when we were ALL supposed to play zone defense-the opposing team will get easy buckets on us.

Language is the same way. A countrys citizens must be able to work together and communicate-how can they do that if they don't know what they are saying to eachother?

A nation with a bunch of different toungs is like a basketball team that has its players running whatever defense each individual chooses: its doomed to disaster.

:laff: Your analagy sucks :lol: . Still dont see what the harm is in studying a foreign language. Throwing in a year of Spanish with Biology isn't going to destroy the USA.


Its not a "year" of Spanish. Its going to be a mandatory two years by 2017 for highschoolers, and knowing how politicaly correct the media and our public education system is, they'll probably push for 3 or even 4 years eventually.

Over time, that will bring down this nation-among the other things that are already bringing it down.
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Postby elliott20 on Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:29 pm

indulge in hyperbole much?

Do note that while learning a foreign language is mandatory, the US doesn't exactly force you to use it. It's not like by studying 2 years of German, you can forgo 2 years of proper English. Besides, it's not like they're saying, "you MUST learn Spanish". It could be any language you want.

I mean, they have second language training in Europe as well, but you don't see the French stop speaking French because they know English.
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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:01 pm

elliott20 wrote:indulge in hyperbole much?

Do note that while learning a foreign language is mandatory, the US doesn't exactly force you to use it. It's not like by studying 2 years of German, you can forgo 2 years of proper English. Besides, it's not like they're saying, "you MUST learn Spanish". It could be any language you want.

I mean, they have second language training in Europe as well, but you don't see the French stop speaking French because they know English.


My point is this: English should be the official language spoken in the United States. And learning a foreign language should not and cannot be mandatory.
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Postby Amnesia on Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:13 pm

Blond Adult Girl wrote:
elliott20 wrote:indulge in hyperbole much?

Do note that while learning a foreign language is mandatory, the US doesn't exactly force you to use it. It's not like by studying 2 years of German, you can forgo 2 years of proper English. Besides, it's not like they're saying, "you MUST learn Spanish". It could be any language you want.

I mean, they have second language training in Europe as well, but you don't see the French stop speaking French because they know English.


My point is this: English should be the official language spoken in the United States. And learning a foreign language should not and cannot be mandatory.

Hey, I dont think certain mathematics and sciences should be mandatory in school either.... but they are.

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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:15 pm

Amnesia wrote:
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elliott20 wrote:indulge in hyperbole much?

Do note that while learning a foreign language is mandatory, the US doesn't exactly force you to use it. It's not like by studying 2 years of German, you can forgo 2 years of proper English. Besides, it's not like they're saying, "you MUST learn Spanish". It could be any language you want.

I mean, they have second language training in Europe as well, but you don't see the French stop speaking French because they know English.


My point is this: English should be the official language spoken in the United States. And learning a foreign language should not and cannot be mandatory.

Hey, I dont think certain mathematics and sciences should be mandatory in school either.... but they are.


What kind of math and science are we talking about? Algebra? Geometry? Calculus? Physics? Biology? Chemistry?
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Postby Amnesia on Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:33 pm

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What kind of math and science are we talking about? Algebra? Geometry? Calculus? Physics? Biology? Chemistry?

Calm down BAG... I think you're getting a bit too excited over the thought of school studies :lol:

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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:36 pm

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What kind of math and science are we talking about? Algebra? Geometry? Calculus? Physics? Biology? Chemistry?

Calm down BAG... I think you're getting a bit too excited over the thought of school studies :lol:


I'm not getting excited. I'm just curious. :)

Math and science are core topics. I think that they should always be taught-and in all categories possible.
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Postby elliott20 on Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:02 pm

yeah, and in case you didn't notice, English *IS* the official language we use in the states. It's not like an extra foreign language requirement is going suddenly cause every american to STOP speaking English.

really, most highschool course equivalent of foreign language training sucks anyway.
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Postby Amnesia on Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:22 pm

elliott20 wrote:yeah, and in case you didn't notice, English *IS* the official language we use in the states. It's not like an extra foreign language requirement is going suddenly cause every american to STOP speaking English.

really, most highschool course equivalent of foreign language training sucks anyway.

Gotta agree with you here Elliott.

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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:56 pm

elliott20 wrote:yeah, and in case you didn't notice, English *IS* the official language we use in the states. It's not like an extra foreign language requirement is going suddenly cause every american to STOP speaking English.

really, most highschool course equivalent of foreign language training sucks anyway.


Our government hasn't made it the official language.

As it stands, English is the unofficial US language, and the immigrants that came here aren't required to learn it.

They should be.
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Postby Amnesia on Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:05 pm

Dont people have to pass an English test in order to get US citizenship? Or am I mistaken?

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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:15 pm

Amnesia wrote:Dont people have to pass an English test in order to get US citizenship? Or am I mistaken?


I'm pretty sure they don't have to, but I can't confirm that.

Hey Elliot, what do you know about this? I always though that immigrants weren't required to learn English, but i could be wrong.
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Postby Amnesia on Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:16 pm

Blond Adult Girl wrote:
Amnesia wrote:Dont people have to pass an English test in order to get US citizenship? Or am I mistaken?


I'm pretty sure they don't have to, but I can't confirm that.

Hey Elliot, what do you know about this? I always though that immigrants weren't required to learn English, but i could be wrong.

You can ALWAYS be wrong BAG :lol:

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Postby Blond Adult Girl on Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:18 pm

Amnesia wrote:
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Amnesia wrote:Dont people have to pass an English test in order to get US citizenship? Or am I mistaken?


I'm pretty sure they don't have to, but I can't confirm that.

Hey Elliot, what do you know about this? I always though that immigrants weren't required to learn English, but i could be wrong.

You can ALWAYS be wrong BAG :lol:


And i HAVE been before, primarly because i have a tendency to "jump the gun," if you know what I mean.

I did it in Amnesias sig, and I once confused saddam Hussein with Osama Bin Laden.
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