How can lesbian parents make good parents?

[noodles]

But let's humor your assumption and play with it...
Him leaving me would make him the bad guy.
Actually in your case I disagree, as i said i would completely understand it. Most people cant cope with your attitude on the forum, cant imagine how awful it must be to actually have to live with you.

Seriously tho - it wouldnt always make him the bad guy. It would very much depend why he wasnt there anymore and in what capacity he left you ie, do you still see him, does he still take his duty as a father seriously (tho not in the same house).

Many people living in environments where their parents relationship is negative or even abusive may prefer to be with one parent, maybe life for them will contain much more peace and therefore peace of mind were parents seperated.

Your black and white pictures of how things should be dont actually take into account peoples feelings and what may be the best course of action for all concerned. To view things as 'should be' and 'will be regardless' can be imo be extremely damaging and instill much unhappiness into all members of a family.

And in answer to your 'sperm doner' comment re: lesbian parents. Some may see it this way - I personally dont. I am however aware of fathers of children who wern't interested in contact with thier kids, prior to a lesbian relationship forming. In these cases mums/thier kids have no option but to have no contact - bieng a mere sperm doner was the choice of the father - no-one else, despite many attempts to try to engage the fathers with thier kids.

I'm not against any situation that brings happiness and health to a child and as I've said before, having seen gay families first hand, whilst i understand people are wary of the unfamiliar my experiences have been positive.

[Drinker]

But let's humor your assumption and play with it...
Him leaving me would make him the bad guy.
Actually in your case I disagree, as i said i would completely understand it. Most people cant cope with your attitude on the forum, cant imagine how awful it must be to actually have to live with you.

Seriously tho - it wouldnt always make him the bad guy. It would very much depend why he wasnt there anymore and in what capacity he left you ie, do you still see him, does he still take his duty as a father seriously (tho not in the same house).

Many people living in environments where their parents relationship is negative or even abusive may prefer to be with one parent, maybe life for them will contain much more peace and therefore peace of mind were parents seperated.
True. But your using bad situations to justify a single parent lifestyle in favor of the needs of the child to have two.
Only a fool would suggest to stay in a negative destructive envioromnet.
Just don't be a fool and suggest that it should now be done because others HAVE to!

Your black and white pictures of how things should be dont actually take into account peoples feelings and what may be the best course of action for all concerned. To view things as 'should be' and 'will be regardless' can be imo be extremely damaging and instill much unhappiness into all members of a family.
Feelings are not enough of a reason though!
If you bring a child into the world your "feelings" are now second to your RESPONSIBILITIES to the child.



And in answer to your 'sperm doner' comment re: lesbian parents. Some may see it this way - I personally dont. I am however aware of fathers of children who wern't interested in contact with thier kids, prior to a lesbian relationship forming. In these cases mums/thier kids have no option but to have no contact - bieng a mere sperm doner was the choice of the father - no-one else, despite many attempts to try to engage the fathers with thier kids.
What you state there is the fundamental problem with homosexual parenting.
ONLY what YOU want and what the donar does are important.
YOU forget that the child has to LIVE with your decisions.
Decisions that by example teach the child that fathers are of no importance.
Responsibility of becoming a father is of no importance.


I'm not against any situation that brings happiness and health to a child and as I've said before, having seen gay families first hand, whilst i understand people are wary of the unfamiliar my experiences have been positive.
Reading that I can now add another reason you are not fit to be a parent.
Your denial of what a child needs to grow up and become another normal parent like the rest of us.

[noodles]

True. But your using bad situations to justify a single parent lifestyle in favor of the needs of the child to have two.
Only a fool would suggest to stay in a negative destructive envioromnet.
Just don't be a fool and suggest that it should now be done because others HAVE to!
Im not saying anything 'should' be, Im merely pointing out that life isnt black and white. Given the divorce rate id actually say that many many families are possibly better off in single parent homes - im not however saying that mum/dad/kids together isnt a great thing.

Feelings are not enough of a reason though!
If you bring a child into the world your "feelings" are now second to your RESPONSIBILITIES to the child
Of course they are and Im sure that the effect on children is one of the reasons 'why' people seperate.


What you state there is the fundamental problem with homosexual parenting.
ONLY what YOU want and what the donar does are important.
YOU forget that the child has to LIVE with your decisions.
Decisions that by example teach the child that fathers are of no importance.
Responsibility of becoming a father is of no importance.[/color][/b]
In the example i gave yes, the father was an absolute arsehole and thought nothing of his child- but the mother in this case had NO control over this.
Any child has to live with thier parents decisions. For example, i dont agree that you should be allowed to have children - you're narrow mainded, abusive, you like segregation, you have no respect for others, you're sexist and your kid will be most probably be an indocrtinated nightmare. So by my wreckoning 'you' have less right to have chidren than you think I do.


Your denial of what a child needs to grow up and become another normal parent like the rest of us.[/color][/b]
Im not in denial, you are. Having grown up to be what you are I believe that your opinions of what a child needs are totally warped. The narrow lines that you put children within are disrespectful and undermine thier intelligence. You put situations (mum dad) before love. In fact if there isnt a mum and a dad you totally undermine the love that can be given and recieved. Bizzare.

[Drinker]

True. But your using bad situations to justify a single parent lifestyle in favor of the needs of the child to have two.
Only a fool would suggest to stay in a negative destructive envioromnet.
Just don't be a fool and suggest that it should now be done because others HAVE to!
Im not saying anything 'should' be, Im merely pointing out that life isnt black and white. Given the divorce rate id actually say that many many families are possibly better off in single parent homes -
And why would they be better off... I'll tell you... because they made a bad decision to bring a child into the world when they were not ready!
So again... your basing your standpoint on a relationship that was poor to begin with!


Feelings are not enough of a reason though!
If you bring a child into the world your "feelings" are now second to your RESPONSIBILITIES to the child
Of course they are and Im sure that the effect on children is one of the reasons 'why' people seperate.
Explain that a bit better please.


What you state there is the fundamental problem with homosexual parenting.
ONLY what YOU want and what the donar does are important.
YOU forget that the child has to LIVE with your decisions.
Decisions that by example teach the child that fathers are of no importance.
Responsibility of becoming a father is of no importance.[/color][/b]
In the example i gave yes, the father was an absolute arsehole and thought nothing of his child- but the mother in this case had NO control over this.
She had no control because she probably did not take the time to know the man she was marrying!
Or decided for herself to bring a child into the world without his agreement.


Any child has to live with thier parents decisions. For example, i dont agree that you should be allowed to have children - you're narrow mainded, abusive, you like segregation, you have no respect for others, you're sexist and your kid will be most probably be an indocrtinated nightmare. So by my wreckoning 'you' have less right to have chidren than you think I do.
I make a better parent because I instill a stronger morality as to right and wrong and whats best for the child.


Your denial of what a child needs to grow up and become another normal parent like the rest of us.[/color][/b]
Im not in denial, you are. Having grown up to be what you are I believe that your opinions of what a child needs are totally warped. The narrow lines that you put children within are disrespectful and undermine thier intelligence. You put situations (mum dad) before love. In fact if there isnt a mum and a dad you totally undermine the love that can be given and recieved. Bizzare.
That's liberal logic used to make morals look bad.
Well... it makes morals look bad for those that fail to see how selfish they really are!

[Guest]

And why would they be better off... I'll tell you... because they made a bad decision to bring a child into the world when they were not ready!
So again... your basing your standpoint on a relationship that was poor to begin with!
Actually im basing it on the fact that many couples ‘are’ ready at the time and things go wrong – such is life for many people.



Explain that a bit better please.
What don’t you understand?



She had no control because she probably did not take the time to know the man she was marrying!
Or decided for herself to bring a child into the world without his agreement.
Id comment on this if there was any point at all.



Well... it makes morals look bad for those that fail to see how selfish they really are!
There is nothing selfish about being in a position to/and wanting to love, nurture and support a child.



I make a better parent because I instill a stronger morality as to right and wrong and whats best for the child.
God help your children. Your type of morality is one very few could or would want to live up to. Cloning children isnt my idea of parenting.

[Drinker]

Well... it makes morals look bad for those that fail to see how selfish they really are!
There is nothing selfish about being in a position to/and wanting to love, nurture and support a child.

The raod to Hell is paved with good intentions. (and that paving is done by those like you that think of the needs of the child can be overlooked)

[Guest]

Well... it makes morals look bad for those that fail to see how selfish they really are!
There is nothing selfish about being in a position to/and wanting to love, nurture and support a child.

The raod to Hell is paved with good intentions. (and that paving is done by those like you that think of the needs of the child can be overlooked)

Ditto drinker

[tamachant]

I ask again if having to loving Lesbian/ Gay parents is wrong, then single parenting is also wrong. Therefore if one parent is killed in a tragic accident the children shoul be taken away and put into a household of a married couple.

If a straight man beats he sone every day until his son is blue, this is okay , because he is straight, so it better to have a straight vilent abusive parent, that say a gay parent, Because being Gay is obviously far worse than being an abuser ?

[Drinker]

I ask again if having to loving Lesbian/ Gay parents is wrong, then single parenting is also wrong. Therefore if one parent is killed in a tragic accident the children shoul be taken away and put into a household of a married couple.

Single parenting IS wrong when done on purpose.
Your problem is you think making due from a tragedy is the same as a blanket validation of an entire way of life.

Remember... death of a parent is NOT designed.
Homosexual parents are of design.

Understand the difference now?

[Guest]

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stfu you pussy

[suckmycock]

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do you have any clue how much of a loser you sound like when you "pull rank" because you're a member of an internet chat forum that admits anyone who signs up? and you're a fugitive troll member who has been banned countless times. this is the closest you will come to attaining "status: in your life. nice job.

[tsibuki]

kolopedo

[Guest]

I cant believe that you're using the lyrics of a love song to back up your bizzarre thought processes. You are a prize tit.

[tamachant]

Single parenting IS wrong when done on purpose.
Your problem is you think making due from a tragedy is the same as a blanket validation of an entire way of life.
Remember... death of a parent is NOT designed.
Homosexual parents are of design.
Understand the difference now?

Yes I know the difference. But you avoid direct question. If this situation was presented to you
a) A home where a gay couple raised a child with love and care
B) A home where an unhappily couple raised a child and one parent beat the child every day or moletsted them.

Which is better only answer A or B ?

[tamachant]

Your right Im just debating for the sake of it.


I still stand by that any home that provides love and care for a child is a good home. thats it, have a good weekend.