Right - I have had enough!

[elliott20]

An average, I say 'hi' to about 4-5 women a year. They get the 'eeeuurgh - I don't THINK so!' head on staright away and generally do whatever it takes to give me the brush-off.

that's all? I hit on about that many women on an average saturday night and I crash and burn all the time.

If you ask me, it's about odds. Of 100 women you meet, about 30 of them are looking. about 15 of them are not psychotic. of those 15, you have to actually try to get them to be attracted to you in a day and age where people like to make things quick, you F*** up the first impression you F*** up all your chances.

What does this mean? You need just meet a shitload of women. Do you even know 100 women now? i certainly don't. I might have over the past year or two have met that many. And my success rate is pitiful when you think about it. But that's what average guys like us have to do. You get kicked in the stomache, you roll with it and move on. And in the end, the numbers game will play to your advantage. Then with a bit of experience, confidence, and luck, you get some every so often.

the key is you gotta stop giving a F*** about their responses and just try to have fun with the bullshit they could throw at you.

I'm gonna dispel a myth for you. nice guys are usually not nice guys. nice guys are usually emotionally weak men.

[P_1984d]

I used to have people call me ugly, as it turned out, I wasn't! They were just trying to make me 'feel' ugly cos they were jealous.

There are women out there who look way past looks, I think if you had a bit more confidence you would ooze sex appeal. Women fancy blokes who are confident.

Have you tried changing your hairstyle? Your clothes styles? Go to the gym, workout, get a tan from the sunbeds? If you took care of yourself and treated yourself once in a while you might just start to feel better about yourself.

Please dont even think of suicide!

[Guest]

I am a male, 31 years of age and I am short, ugly and very shy. I've never been able to talk to women (on the rare occasions I have in the past I was out of my face on booze or drugs). I hate myself for being ugly and boring enough to repulse women. I mean, by definition I am heterosexual, but my looks and personality stop me from conforming to NATURE! I hate being ugly, and I hate being terrified of women to the point where I can't feel comfortable around them. I'm, in my 30's now - what can I do?

I'm sick of my life passing me by while I am imprisoned in loneliness and celibacy. I'd rather be dead than live like this. Some of the people on here have said that there is nothing wrong with me physically, but I guess that they are just patronising me in order to make me feel better. As soon as I get out of the _ world and into the real world, believe me - women find a helluva lot wrong with me physically. Women have hated me all my life, and I've never had any confidence round them. I only feel safe when they aren't around.

Jeeeez... & you're from Mersyside
How un-lucky can one guy be?

[swee]

I am a male, 31 years of age and I am short, ugly and very shy. I've never been able to talk to women (on the rare occasions I have in the past I was out of my face on booze or drugs). I hate myself for being ugly and boring enough to repulse women. I mean, by definition I am heterosexual, but my looks and personality stop me from conforming to NATURE! I hate being ugly, and I hate being terrified of women to the point where I can't feel comfortable around them. I'm, in my 30's now - what can I do?

I'm sick of my life passing me by while I am imprisoned in loneliness and celibacy. I'd rather be dead than live like this. Some of the people on here have said that there is nothing wrong with me physically, but I guess that they are just patronising me in order to make me feel better. As soon as I get out of the _ world and into the real world, believe me - women find a helluva lot wrong with me physically. Women have hated me all my life, and I've never had any confidence round them. I only feel safe when they aren't around.

Jeeeez... & you're from Mersyside
How un-lucky can one guy be?

i'm from merseyside, you cheeky scamp!

why am i laughing?

[Penelope]

Yep. And please don't give me the 'Join a basketweaving class. That's the way to meet people' spiel. Where do everybody else meet each other? yes, you've guessed it - in bars, pubs and clubs!

No, actually. You only meet certain types in bars, pubs and clubs. I met my husband in church. My sister met her husband at work. Maybe you are meeting the wrong type of women. Why not try a different venue?
(E.g: evening classes or dating agencies.)

[elliott20]

I met one girlfriend at work, and got dates from girls from gyms, dance classes, etc.

[P_1984d]

I met my bloke at work, any other bloke before that was at a club or on holiday. Or through my mates

[Kirwan]

A MAN, I’m really sorry but I’m going to call this one the way I see it, If I met a girl that talked like you I would run for the hills, and not because of the way you say you look, but the I’m a little emotional unstable attitude you ooze, and hell I’m a male. This type of attitude scares women more then it scares guys, either seek help on this front first or find some way to pull yourself together. Most women are attracted by confidence and repelled by lack of it.

Now I know where your coming from, in high school I was a skinny pimple faced geek, once my acne cleared up I still had the same shy attitude I would go to clubs hit on a girl and once I was rejected my confidence was destroyed so like you I would go and sulk. It took me a while to realise that not every lady in these establishments are fair game hit on the wrong one and it wont matter if you are Don Wan Brad Pitt Cruse, she will give you that not in a million years look. Here is my advise ask a girl you are not attracted to, to dance (tell her you have a girlfriend or something so as not to lead her on.) build up a bit of confidence and just keep getting back on the horse. Just ask any taxi driver or bouncer some very ugly me go home with some absolute glammers because they can talk the talk and walk the walk.

[thelastwish]

heres some actual advice instead of comments that mainly dont help.

i was very unattractive for years, i had short hair, bad teeth, BAD clothing sense, i rarely showered, and i was a total dork. however at a certain point i finnally decided i liked girls. well, sure, i tried, but as one would expect, i didnt present myself well at all, and got rejected plenty of times, it happens to everyone, and those that havent been rejected and arent married, its comming, for those that are married, good luck in your marriage, im happy you got away with it. but 99% of people get rejected, its common because people have certain tastes. natural human behavior. well my decision to clean myself up and make my image better dramatically helped my situation.

now im 18 so my situation might be different from yours, however i grew my hair out to slightly above shoulder, straightened my teeth, talked to girls a LOT (without experience, nothing can be done well) changed my clothing to what was comfortable AND what appealed to women, and then just was myself. now my personality is a joking, caring, sometimes a bit of a jerk kinda guy, however i just was myself. the best thing for you to to is change the way you present yourself, but remain who you are, dont get nervous around girls, talk to them, try to be friends with them first before you want to go out with them. and honestly, if you get a friend thats a girl, they can tell you anything that goes on in the female mind, and give you a lot of advice.

over all, be yourself and try to be friends, before you hit the bed and get a LOT of practice, it makes perfect, it really does.

[you have male]

First seek status, wealth and, above all, power because that's the greatest aphrodisiac of all to lots of women.

[swee]

First seek status, wealth and, above all, power because that's the greatest aphrodisiac of all to lots of women.

you read my mind i was just about to start a thread

[Guest]

I am a male, 31 years of age and I am short, ugly and very shy. I've never been able to talk to women (on the rare occasions I have in the past I was out of my face on booze or drugs). I hate myself for being ugly and boring enough to repulse women. I mean, by definition I am heterosexual, but my looks and personality stop me from conforming to NATURE! I hate being ugly, and I hate being terrified of women to the point where I can't feel comfortable around them. I'm, in my 30's now - what can I do?

I'm sick of my life passing me by while I am imprisoned in loneliness and celibacy. I'd rather be dead than live like this. Some of the people on here have said that there is nothing wrong with me physically, but I guess that they are just patronising me in order to make me feel better. As soon as I get out of the _ world and into the real world, believe me - women find a helluva lot wrong with me physically. Women have hated me all my life, and I've never had any confidence round them. I only feel safe when they aren't around.

The only thing that is really wrong with you is that you are shy. I'm good looking man and shy and suffer like you. Women like power and confident men. Look at some of these pathetic looking rock stars that women hang with and women also hang with abusive men because they have fallen for a man's confidence. They are attracted to confidence and power. If you regularly go to the gym and keep fit you can reduce the physical problem of being ugly. Be grateful for what you do have and do not dwell on what you do not have. Your attitude determines your altitude. There are some people battling horrible diseases. Not to diminish your (our) problem but if you go through life with a sour disposition it will only attract likewise. Association brings on assimilation. If you want to soar with the eagles... don't fly with the turkeys. Don't let the bas-turds bring you down! There are some folks that go through life ripping up other people. There method is to bring you down to their sorry level... misery loves company. Avoid those folks like the plaque.