Why Does America Back Israel

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Postby PityAngie on Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:14 pm

myron myron, your point might be valid if it were primarily Jews in America who supported Israel. Of course, most support for Israel comes not from Jews but Christians.

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Postby Lena on Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:50 pm

Many fundamentalists love israel that is true . Real helpful getting the Republican party to back israel ...............

But no matter what the religion Americans should want America to look out for itself rather then another country .People who know whats going on tell me the average israeli and always the government there laff at us as being there stooge ................. :x
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Postby PityAngie on Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:56 pm

America is looking out for itself in its support of Israel.

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Postby Lena on Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:51 pm

There many who say that but it's beyond me ................ :roll:

I think they see us as fools they can bleed for money and get to fight there enemys ..........................

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Postby myron myron on Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:14 pm

PityAngie wrote:America is looking out for itself in its support of Israel.

Really?

How so?

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Postby blindfaith on Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:55 pm

myron myron wrote:I partly accept the reasons publicly stated, i.e., that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, etc., but there is no question that American Jews have political influence far beyond their numbers owing to their control of the media and their financial power.

Jews control Los Angeles/Hollywood and thus can dictate film and television content. Recall how Marlon Brando was blackballed in Hollywood for merely pointing out what no one can deny, that Hollywood is controlled by Jews. Recall the outcry in Hollywood against Mel Gibson for his film about Jesus Christ that Jews decided portrayed them in an unflattering light -- the film would never have been seen in theaters had Gibson not been in financial position to finance the distribution himself.

Jews control New York City, the financial, print media, advertising and cultural capital of America. The New York Times, the so-called "newspaper of record," is owned by the Jewish Sulzberger family. The most successful investment bank on Wall Street is Goldman Sachs -- the Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton and the present Treasury Secretary both came from Goldman Sachs. The most profitable law firm in New York City by a large margin (albeit not the biggest firm in size) is Wachtel, Lipton, Rosen & Katz -- Bill Clinton's White House counsel, Bernard Nussbaum, was and again is a partner at the Wachtel firm.

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the largest (though not the only) pro-Israel special interest lobbying group in Washington, D.C., exerts considerable influence on American foreign policy concerning Israel regardless whether Republicans or Democrats are in control of the White House and Congress. AIPAC steers political contributions by American Jews to candidates for local and national public office who support Israel and steers contributions to opponents of candidates who are not sufficently supportive of Israel. Two former AIPAC employees were recently indicted for espionage in the “AIPAC Scandal,” in which information regarding United States policy towards Iran was passed to Israel through AIPAC. Lawrence Franklin, a former Defense Department employee, has pleaded guilty to several espionage-related charges and was sentenced in January 2006 to nearly thirteen years in prison.

That said, Jews can never completely control America because they comprise less than 5% of the population. Outside of New York, Los Angeles and a couple of other large American cities, Jews are not particularly popular with Americans -- especially in the American heartland between the coasts and in the South. This is why American Jews as a group are intolerant of free speech.

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), a Jewish organization with an annual budget of over $40 million, has a stated aim "to stop, by appeals to reason and conscience and, if necessary, by appeals to law, the defamation of the Jewish people." In practice, the ADL seeks to destroy the reputation of anyone who publicly utters, writes, or makes a film about, anything critical of Jews. In his decision granting judgment in favor of a married couple against the ADL for falsely portraying them as anti-Semites, U.S. District Judge Edward Nottingham wrote:

"it is not unreasonable to infer that public charges of anti-Semitism leveled by the ADL will be taken seriously and assumed by many to be true without question. In that respect, the ADL is in a unique position of being able to cause substantial harm to individuals when it lends its backing to allegations of anti-Semitism."

As a group, Jews are hostile to Christianity -- in a nation where more than 80% of the population identify themselves as Christian. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) -- not officially a Jewish organization but historically and presently headed, funded and staffed primarily by Jews -- has filed and continues to file hundreds of lawsuits against public schools and local governments challenging any practice that in any way permits positive expressions of Christianity. At the same time, the ACLU defends as freedom of speech public blasphemies against Christianity, such as a publicly-funded art exhibit that included "Piss Christ," so-called art consisting of a crucifix immersed in a glass jar filled with the "artist's" urine. And Hollywood produces an endless stream of movies and TV shows that belittle Christians and denigrate Jesus Christ.

The majority of Americans would not necessarily favor Jews and Israel but for the Arabs in particular and Muslims in general, who have been their own worst enemies vis-a-vis American public opinion. The price of Muslim terrorist successes against American targets abroad and especially 9/11 has been alienation of American public opinion against Arabs and Muslims for at least a generation.

Before 9/11, the majority of Americans were increasingly losing patience with the U.S. government’s unwavering support for Israel and increasingly favoring a more even-handed U.S. policy in the Middle East. The 9/11 attacks by themselves cemented American public opinion against Arabs and Muslims and ingrained in the American psyche the image of fanatical savages bent on murdering Americans.

In sum, I believe America’s unwavering support for Israel is owing to a combination of the merits of the situation, Jewish political influence disproportionate to the American Jewish population, and Arab/Muslim terrorism against Americans which reflects utter ineptitude of Arabs/Muslims in the battle for the hearts and minds of the American people.


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Postby cosmicB on Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:48 pm

"Why is America chums with Israel?"


Because there are a lot of powerful corporate and political Jews in America.. and because America needs strategic places for military bases in that part of the world, for their world domination project, to acquire the world's resources cheap.. because in just a couple hundred years Americans used up all America's resources... Plus America needs a shield-front to implement the world's second inquisition.. like how hell hides behind its religion coatings...

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Postby vlada on Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:42 pm

the palestianians are not only muslim, there are christians among them, orthodox and some catholics.

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Postby tamachant on Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:52 am

myron myron wrote:
PityAngie wrote:America is looking out for itself in its support of Israel.

Really?

How so?



I thought it was because of the Wealth and support of many Jewish Businessmenn and Poloticians ?
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Postby Lena on Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:27 pm

The israel lobby is as powerful and as bad for America as the gun lobby and tobacco lobby .They pit another country ahead of America and also don't have any respect for democracy since they go after anyone they think is not 110% pro -israel .I was told there also behind the holocaust lobby or cult that goes on and non as if jewish people were the only ones in human history to have ever had trouble to get sympathy for israel .

They have hundred of employees and millions of dollars to work with . Also have front groups pretending to be think tanks or research center that have people on the news shows always with the 'honest' conclusion israel is always right .....................roll:

Someone needs to knock them off that lobby off it's pedastel if only for the sake of taking down a bully and making it possible for there to be free speech about oteh US relationship with israel . :x
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