1. Do You Poison Your Son’s Mind Against His Father

[Treacle]

That wasn't my question. I asked you what happened in your childhood that made you into a patronising git? My son lives in a house with another man. There is no emasculation. Not every single parent stays single forever you know.

[Fred75]

That wasn't my question. I asked you what happened in your childhood that made you into a patronising git? My son lives in a house with another man. There is no emasculation. Not every single parent stays single forever you know.

Not much.
My parents never divorced.

What disgusts me is the lack of commitment parents have today and the things children of broken homes are more apt to do.

That not reason enough for you?

[Treacle]

Not sure there is a lack of commitment in general terms. In some people yes but not all. Not all of us are perfect. In fact my ex is now hitched to a preacher who left his wife and kids. Perhaps divorce is easier now (and dare I say it more acceptable) but people still love their kids. Perhaps we should agree to disagree?

[Mr A]

That wasn't my question. I asked you what happened in your childhood that made you into a patronising git? My son lives in a house with another man. There is no emasculation. Not every single parent stays single forever you know.

Not much.

I think it would make an interesting show, to take a look back at your childhood and see why you became like you are, "fred ..the early years"

they only seem to do that with serial killers though

[azraelle]

That wasn't my question. I asked you what happened in your childhood that made you into a patronising git? My son lives in a house with another man. There is no emasculation. Not every single parent stays single forever you know.

Not much.

I think it would make an interesting show, to take a look back at your childhood and see why you became like you are, "fred ..the early years"

they only seem to do that with serial killers though

Who's to say he isn't, and is just posting on this forum for guilt-relief?

[Fred75]

bump

[YAS]

Hi I am still new here but just want to ask you a question Fred. I get the impression from some of the post's I have read that you dont like women? Anyway this is a topic about mothers poisening their childrens mind against there fathers,

You said

The mother failed to pick a good man to father her children.

I'm guessing from this that its a womans fault if her children are fatherless because she didn't pick the right the man to father them?

Now i'm sorry if I am wrong but if a woman is poisening her childrens mind against their father out of spite (which happens quite alot) then surely thats the mans fault for choosing the wrong woman to raise his children?

You have said a few times that it is well known that the mother usually ends up with the children following divorce/seperation, so why would a man sleep with a woman & risk a pregnancy planned or unplanned who could poisen HIS childrens mind against him?

Surely a man should take this into account when he has sex with a woman? I mean he is sowing his own oats & passing on his dna to a future generation isn't he? surely he has an obligation to not sleep with a woman knowing their is a risk of her raising his children with little or no imput from himself? leaving him unable to mould/influence his own offspring,


What i am trying to say here is surely a man has more responcibilty of the welfare of his children by only choosing a good mother to raise them, seen as though there is a distinct possiblity he could pay little part in their upbringing so he must decide if a woman is good enough to raise his children before trying to get into her knickers??

[Polgara69]

What she said!

[Fred75]

Hi I am still new here but just want to ask you a question Fred. I get the impression from some of the post's I have read that you dont like women?
I don't like those that make selfish decisions with no regard to their children.

Anyway this is a topic about mothers poisening their childrens mind against there fathers,

You said

The mother failed to pick a good man to father her children.

I'm guessing from this that its a womans fault if her children are fatherless because she didn't pick the right the man to father them?

Now i'm sorry if I am wrong but if a woman is poisening her childrens mind against their father out of spite (which happens quite alot) then surely thats the mans fault for choosing the wrong woman to raise his children?

You have said a few times that it is well known that the mother usually ends up with the children following divorce/seperation, so why would a man sleep with a woman & risk a pregnancy planned or unplanned who could poisen HIS childrens mind against him?

Surely a man should take this into account when he has sex with a woman? I mean he is sowing his own oats & passing on his dna to a future generation isn't he? surely he has an obligation to not sleep with a woman knowing their is a risk of her raising his children with little or no imput from himself? leaving him unable to mould/influence his own offspring,


What i am trying to say here is surely a man has more responcibilty of the welfare of his children by only choosing a good mother to raise them, seen as though there is a distinct possiblity he could pay little part in their upbringing so he must decide if a woman is good enough to raise his children before trying to get into her knickers??


Time for a reality check.
Whoever is most likely to end up with the kid(s) is the one that holds the majority of responsibility.

Capiche?

[YAS]

I agree with you fred, the one who gets the children has more responcibilty, but they also have 18+ years to influence the child teach them wright from wrong & teach them the morals which will stick with them the rest of their life. The father doesn't get any of that, that was my point which I think you missed.

When a man sleeps with a woman he knows there is a possibility of her becoming pregnant. He knows their is a chance he will not play apart in that childs upbringing. He knows he has to put that child's interest's infront of his own, if he doesn't (for whatever reason) then it's left for the mother to raise the child as she see's fit. The least he can do in that situation is pick that child a decent mother is it not??

What i'm asking you is should a man only sleep with a woman who he see's fit to raise his children? baring in mind that HIS dna is instilled in that child?

[Fred75]

I agree with you fred, the one who gets the children has more responcibilty, but they also have 18+ years to influence the child teach them wright from wrong & teach them the morals which will stick with them the rest of their life. The father doesn't get any of that, that was my point which I think you missed.

When a man sleeps with a woman he knows there is a possibility of her becoming pregnant. He knows their is a chance he will not play apart in that childs upbringing. He knows he has to put that child's interest's infront of his own, if he doesn't (for whatever reason) then it's left for the mother to raise the child as she see's fit. The least he can do in that situation is pick that child a decent mother is it not??

What i'm asking you is should a man only sleep with a woman who he see's fit to raise his children? baring in mind that HIS dna is instilled in that child?

yes

[YAS]

so it can sometimes be the mans fault?

[Fred75]

so it can sometimes be the mans fault?

Rape is the only way that I know the child can be conceived without her consent.


You can go around and around with me all day for all I care.
ULTIMATELY it still comes down to the responsibility of the mother.

[YAS]

I didn't mean the woman would be blamless & its all the mans fault like it is with rape, I meant that the fault does sometimes lie more with the father. I get the impression from your recent posts that it is allways the mothers fault if a child is fatherless, but you have agreed that a man should only sleep with a woman if he see's her fit be the mother of his child(ren) so a man does have to take some responcibilty for getting a woman pregnant who he barely knows (hence not allways the womans fault)

[Fred75]

I didn't mean the woman would be blamless & its all the mans fault like it is with rape, I meant that the fault does sometimes lie more with the father. I get the impression from your recent posts that it is allways the mothers fault if a child is fatherless,

That's as far as your post needs to go.

Saying more does not change the reality of who ends up with the child unless they are a real nutter.