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Postby forkhandles on Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:40 pm

Men have had more fashion freedom in more recent history. Back in the late 60's & 70's it was the fashion for men to wear more extravagant & colourful clothes. Some mens shirts sometimes looked more like silky blouses, & trousers were tight fitting (more like leggings), & in bright colours. shoes got high heels too.
I think it was accepted men's & womens clothes were more interchangeable than they are now.

I remember seeing guys wearing kaftans, beads, long hair. From the back they looked like a girl until they turned around & they had a dodgy moustache & big sideburns.
David Bowie wore tailored 'mens dresses' in the early 70's. they looked more like midi length coat really, worn with knee length boots. Very bohemian... from what I remember!

I blame the punks. Fashion seemed to change overnight. One day I'm wearing big flares a floaty shirt & shoes with heels, then suddenly it was all drainpipe jeans, t shirts & trainers. Women just got more options, but guys seemed to get less, & we never really got it back.

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Postby 8.0 on Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:38 am

ok this is an example of what is seen as normal, there are two babys one have two arm and the another have one missing, the baby with one arm should have every right as the baby with two arms does, But as it comes down to it the baby with one arm is not normal an people will not treat it like a normal person! im trying to say how i feel about this subjected and becuase i dont agree with you's, you's take a dig at me and you are not accepting my point of veiw, i have nothing against men wearing womens clothing behind closed door but not in public

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Postby quatinus on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:19 am

ok this is an example of what is seen as normal, there are two babys one have two arm and the another have one missing, the baby with one arm should have every right as the baby with two arms does, But as it comes down to it the baby with one arm is not normal an people will not treat it like a normal person! im trying to say how i feel about this subjected and becuase i dont agree with you's, you's take a dig at me and you are not accepting my point of veiw, i have nothing against men wearing womens clothing behind closed door but not in public


Normality is a concept – a given state at a given time ergo normality may be the product of sustained change.

The example you gave is a physiological one and, whilst I won’t use it, I will use similar analogy. At this moment in time it is ‘normal’ for individuals to be born with four fingers and a thumb on each hand therefore it would be considered ‘abnormal’ for a person born with, say, five fingers on each hand. Now let us suppose that over the next thousand years of evolution (our sustained change) the majority of people are born with five fingers and not four then what we, now, consider as ‘normal’ would in fact be the reverse.

Changes in culture, society, creed etc will ultimately affect our concept of normality.

Now, to bring this back to the original thread, changes in our concept of normality can be as a result of personal freedoms one of which is the freedom of choice for males to wear what we want and where we want (not just behind closed doors).

My personal choice is to wear shorts all year as I don’t like wearing long trousers. Consequently, and only recently, I have taken to wearing tights under the shorts to avoid getting cold legs during the day. There is no sexual connotation I just merely want to comfortable in what I wear but why should I be under virtual ‘house arrest’ - because it could invite comment and ridicule if I went out in them.

tights are an item of clothing and there are several manufacturers that produce tights and other hosiery specifically for men. There is a worldwide market for male tights so why should we be in the closet if want wear them.

I accept that individual points of view will differ from mine and I don't mind that providing that those individuals also accept my point of view and are tolerant of them instead of being dogmatic and disparaging.

We live in a diverse society where everyone should be able to exercise their, in this instance, fashion freedom of choice without feeling belittled, without being treated like a leper, without being riduled and castigated for doing so.

I don't mind you not feeling that it is not 'normal' but I would ask that you be tolerant and accept, even though you disagree, that we don't all share the same viewpoint. :wink
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Postby quatinus on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:22 am

As at time of posting the thread has had 970 views and only 14 votes on the poll :? :?
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Postby loki_uk on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:35 am

quatinus wrote:
.... ( ITS JUST WRONG FOR MEN TO WEAR WOMENS CLOTHING)


There are no such thing as womens clothes or mens clothes there are however clothes that are, and have been, traditionally worn by women or men. That said it does not mean that it should always be so. Using your argument - is it wrong for women to wear trousers which have been traditionally worn by men?

I don't want to repeat what I have said in earlier posts in this thread but men and women should have the right to wear what they like. Clothes do not necessarily affect or demonstrate an individuals sexuality.

You seem to have a very narrow minded viewpoint. It is viewpoints like that that suppress the male freedom to wear what they like whilst women can do just that. Have you worn socks, trousers, shirts - traditionally mens wear!!!!!!
:roll:


tights were first worn by men too, so should we allow women to continue crossdressing by wearing tights ? :wink:

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Postby loki_uk on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:36 am

quatinus wrote:
.... ( ITS JUST WRONG FOR MEN TO WEAR WOMENS CLOTHING)


There are no such thing as womens clothes or mens clothes there are however clothes that are, and have been, traditionally worn by women or men. That said it does not mean that it should always be so. Using your argument - is it wrong for women to wear trousers which have been traditionally worn by men?

I don't want to repeat what I have said in earlier posts in this thread but men and women should have the right to wear what they like. Clothes do not necessarily affect or demonstrate an individuals sexuality.

You seem to have a very narrow minded viewpoint. It is viewpoints like that that suppress the male freedom to wear what they like whilst women can do just that. Have you worn socks, trousers, shirts - traditionally mens wear!!!!!!
:roll:


Men were the first to wear tights, so should we allow women to continue crossdresssing by wearing them ? :wink:

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Postby loki_uk on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:38 am

quatinus wrote:
.... ( ITS JUST WRONG FOR MEN TO WEAR WOMENS CLOTHING)


There are no such thing as womens clothes or mens clothes there are however clothes that are, and have been, traditionally worn by women or men. That said it does not mean that it should always be so. Using your argument - is it wrong for women to wear trousers which have been traditionally worn by men?

I don't want to repeat what I have said in earlier posts in this thread but men and women should have the right to wear what they like. Clothes do not necessarily affect or demonstrate an individuals sexuality.

You seem to have a very narrow minded viewpoint. It is viewpoints like that that suppress the male freedom to wear what they like whilst women can do just that. Have you worn socks, trousers, shirts - traditionally mens wear!!!!!!
:roll:


Men were the first to wear tights, so should we allow women to continue crossdresssing by wearing them ? :wink:

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Postby loki_uk on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:38 am

quatinus wrote:
.... ( ITS JUST WRONG FOR MEN TO WEAR WOMENS CLOTHING)


There are no such thing as womens clothes or mens clothes there are however clothes that are, and have been, traditionally worn by women or men. That said it does not mean that it should always be so. Using your argument - is it wrong for women to wear trousers which have been traditionally worn by men?

I don't want to repeat what I have said in earlier posts in this thread but men and women should have the right to wear what they like. Clothes do not necessarily affect or demonstrate an individuals sexuality.

You seem to have a very narrow minded viewpoint. It is viewpoints like that that suppress the male freedom to wear what they like whilst women can do just that. Have you worn socks, trousers, shirts - traditionally mens wear!!!!!!
:roll:

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men on high heels look great

Postby lolla on Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:25 pm

For those who still not accept high heels for men please go to http://www.highheelspassion.blogspot.com were you will find some pics which can change your perception about the men wearing high heels.

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Postby lolla on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:40 pm

A friend of mine asked me this question: In a world without men do women wear high heels? Good question and I still no have an answer. May be you have one. I want to ask the men who love to wear high heels: In a world without women do you wear high heels?

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Postby justabloke on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:25 pm

putting the whole cross dress thing to one side fora minute and looking at mens clothes.

have noticed that clothes are getting better for men.
eg better cut trousers that look good on slim men with nice body, and slim tapered shirts, again for slim men.
just look in the high st shops, and you will find a brilliant choice of fashionable clothes for men.
the only place where we fall behind women is at work. the shirt and tie rule is hideous.
i mean you look smart, but would nt it be great to wear something different for a change.
its also difficult to show your individuality at work (isnt that a human right?)
anyway im all for more freedom for everyone to express themselves. yes lets give us men a break. weve been too restricted for far too long.

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Postby lucky09 on Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:54 am

I do wear opaque tights, mini skirt, calf boots and any top to match that make me more comfortable also it look on me... it need change for men fashion as wear trousers only are too bored.. need to change like wear skirt, etc.. I cant wear men clothes cos Im suffered from weight loss as my waist is 26" that why I cant find men trousers size which is from 30" - I used female clothes like jeans, mini skirt - that only I buying and I already have lots of it. I have lots of calf, knee-high boots with flat heel and slip shoes as well -- it nice to change different fashion. Im wearing black opaque tights with ruby cord mini skirt, pink Cotton Trader shirt and black suede calf boots it look nicely. :)
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Postby lucky09 on Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:54 am

I do wear opaque tights, mini skirt, calf boots and any stop to match that make me more comfortable also it look on me... it need change for men fashion as wear trousers only are too bored.. need to change like wear skirt, etc.. I cant wear men clothes cos Im suffered from weight loss as my waist is 26 that why I cant find men trousers size which is from 30 - I used female clothes like jeans, mini skirt - that only I buying and I already have lots of it. I have lots of calf, knee-high boots with flat heel and slip shoes as well -- it nice to change different fashion. Im wearing black opaque tights with ruby cord mini skirt, pink Cotton Trader shirt and black suede calf boots it look nicely. :)

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Postby KiltyCol on Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:40 pm

I too find trousers uncomfortable and boring. I often wear a kilt at weekends as it is more comfortable and think that men should be able to wear kilts and skirts as normal mens clothing. This is not cross dressing because we are not trying to impersonate women, but just wear comfortable clothes. Nobody questions a lady for wearing trousers.
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Leggings for women AND men

Postby RSM Dist on Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:02 pm

Leggings for men is not a new trend - one that's been around for years. It's time to get over the body image constraints and go for the comfort. Just wear them. Leggings are perfect casual wear for women AND men. Having worn leggings for years, I'm aware of people's comments both negative and very positive. After all, it’s not the leggings on the man but the man in the leggings. Everyone looks good in leggings and some people look great!
If more people, women and men, wear leggings then it will just be another apparel choice. At one time denim jeans were worn only by miners digging for gold. Now they are everywhere.
So never say never - when you do decide to wear leggings, choose a well made pair - not with cotton fibers that bag out over time but a high tech fiber that retains its shape. Go for the comfort and support. Leggings that go to the ankle look better than capri style that chop the leg. Plus the full length leggings support you from your ankle to your waist and give you an energetic lift. Laugh, Live, Love & Enjoy! Check out www.UnJeans.com
UnJeans leggings - clothes of the future and the future just started.

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