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Postby GayandProud on Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:33 pm

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Theistic government has been and will be dictatorial because there is no way to disabuse the vast majority of people of their non-belief in a higher power without destroying their freedom of conscience.


That would make for an excellent signature!


agreed :)

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Postby myron myron on Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:42 pm

Kinda rude to doctor someone's quote -- it's not cricket, I believe you would say.

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Postby GayandProud on Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:49 pm

Unless you have copyright its not legally yours

but yeah it was rude - well Id say cheeky. :P However it just goes to show your quote workd both ways, freeedom of thought is freedom of thought....plus you seem to have it in for atheists although you say you dont....

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Postby myron myron on Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:03 pm

GayandProud wrote:Unless you have copyright its not legally yours

but yeah it was rude - well Id say cheeky. :P However it just goes to show your quote workd both ways, freeedom of thought is freedom of thought....plus you seem to have it in for atheists although you say you dont....

Only on this forum and only those atheists who slur my religion and attack the religious.

As I have said countless times, most of my friends in real life are atheists and I have no problems at all with them.

And I am not criticizing atheists in this thread; only atheistic government.

If you're studying law, you should understand the distinction.

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Postby GayandProud on Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:43 pm

I agree with Gibbous' post on page 1 more than anything youve written so far myron. To be honest you just seem like your in a bad mood.

He seems more fair minded and thoughtful and I found myself nodding in agreement at the distinctions he draws.

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Postby myron myron on Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:44 pm

GayandProud wrote:I agree with Gibbous' post on page 1 more than anything youve written so far myron. To be honest you just seem like your in a bad mood.

He seems more fair minded and thoughtful and I found myself nodding in agreement at the distinctions he draws.

Of course you agree with him; he's an atheist.

You didn't bother to read my reply though -- and if you did, you read it with a closed mind.

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Postby The Colonel on Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:49 pm

myron myron wrote:
GayandProud wrote:Unless you have copyright its not legally yours

but yeah it was rude - well Id say cheeky. :P However it just goes to show your quote workd both ways, freeedom of thought is freedom of thought....plus you seem to have it in for atheists although you say you dont....

Only on this forum and only those atheists who slur my religion and attack the religious.

As I have said countless times, most of my friends in real life are atheists and I have no problems at all with them.

And I am not criticizing atheists in this thread; only atheistic government.

If you're studying law, you should understand the distinction.


You cannot judge atheistic government by comparing communist governments. The abuses in those nations are almost entirely not due to atheistic principles.

The only difference, is that religion is scrapped. China, for example, was never a religious nation.
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Postby GayandProud on Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:57 pm

myron myron wrote:
GayandProud wrote:I agree with Gibbous' post on page 1 more than anything youve written so far myron. To be honest you just seem like your in a bad mood.

He seems more fair minded and thoughtful and I found myself nodding in agreement at the distinctions he draws.

Of course you agree with him; he's an atheist.

You didn't bother to read my reply though -- and if you did, you read it with a closed mind.


Im sorry but I did read your reply word for word and all your previous possts too and the one that stood out for me was still Gibbous'.
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Postby Fred75 on Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:02 pm

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myron myron wrote:
GayandProud wrote:Unless you have copyright its not legally yours

but yeah it was rude - well Id say cheeky. :P However it just goes to show your quote workd both ways, freeedom of thought is freedom of thought....plus you seem to have it in for atheists although you say you dont....

Only on this forum and only those atheists who slur my religion and attack the religious.

As I have said countless times, most of my friends in real life are atheists and I have no problems at all with them.

And I am not criticizing atheists in this thread; only atheistic government.

If you're studying law, you should understand the distinction.


You cannot judge atheistic government by comparing communist governments. The abuses in those nations are almost entirely not due to atheistic principles.


Prove us wrong with EVIDENCE!
Where is the government you speak of?
We Americans are damn tired of being thought of as dumb by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November and removed all doubt.

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Postby myron myron on Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:04 pm

GayandProud wrote:
myron myron wrote:
GayandProud wrote:I agree with Gibbous' post on page 1 more than anything youve written so far myron. To be honest you just seem like your in a bad mood.

He seems more fair minded and thoughtful and I found myself nodding in agreement at the distinctions he draws.

Of course you agree with him; he's an atheist.

You didn't bother to read my reply though -- and if you did, you read it with a closed mind.

Im sorry but I did read your reply word for word and all your previous possts too and the one that stood out for me was still Gibbous'.
:)

Of course you agree with Gibbous; he's an atheist, just like you.

That's cool with me, but that's what it is.

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Postby GayandProud on Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:08 pm

Post another pic of your arse. I liked that. :D

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Postby Fred75 on Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:15 pm

Gibbous Moon wrote:
I don't think that atheism can ever be a surrogate religion or a quasi-religion. Religions, by their very nature, require an act of faith or certainty without evidence. Atheism requires no such faith and in fact requires that you are uncertain without evidence. Atheism seeks to understand the world through rational means and thinks that all phenomena are natural; religion explains the world through mysticism and recourse to the super-natural.

GM

Your summation fails to recognize that without a supreme being the government BECOMES the supreme being! The supreme entity!

Because for the government to work it has to exert control of it's citizens.
And it can't have it's citizens criticizing its laws... otherwise that government will look like it's no longer the supreme being!

And of course POWER CORRUPTS!
And men are inherently selfish.

Proof can be found by the fact that there are no current atheist governments that have comparable Christian based morals and freedoms of the governments we live under today!!
We Americans are damn tired of being thought of as dumb by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November and removed all doubt.

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Postby GayandProud on Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:56 pm

oh Fred :wub: are you jealous coz I said I liked Gibbous' post and not yours? :lol:
You know I love all your dinky little posty wostys. I just dont read them thats all.

btw Do you have a pension? :D

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Postby The Colonel on Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:33 pm

GayandProud wrote:Post another pic of your arse. I liked that. :D


Don't encourage him G&P.

I do think might be gay though considering he posted it just for you.

Odd that! :lol:
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Postby myron myron on Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:38 am

I didn't post it for him; I posted it in reply to a guest.

But I do note that you're jealous.

Must suck being you, Colonel, you wrinkly old fart. :lol:

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