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Postby ILWL on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:02 pm

myron myron wrote:We clearly have contradictory views of what constitutes "fair minded."

You equated those bigots with terrorist mass murderers, which they are not.

That dog won't hunt.


Are there people in the world who may just view the US as Mass Murderers? They certainly have backed a few haven't they?

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Postby myron myron on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:06 pm

ILWL wrote:
myron myron wrote:We clearly have contradictory views of what constitutes "fair minded."

You equated those bigots with terrorist mass murderers, which they are not.

That dog won't hunt.

Are there people in the world who may just view the US as Mass Murderers? They certainly have backed a few haven't they?

No more than the UK.

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Postby ILWL on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:07 pm

myron myron wrote:
ILWL wrote:
myron myron wrote:We clearly have contradictory views of what constitutes "fair minded."

You equated those bigots with terrorist mass murderers, which they are not.

That dog won't hunt.

Are there people in the world who may just view the US as Mass Murderers? They certainly have backed a few haven't they?

No more than the UK.


I cannot disagree that this country has blood on it's hands.

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Postby GayandProud on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:07 pm

Theres obviously no point in dragging this out any further. You know exactly what I meant. Ive explained fully in my posts. You've chosen to ignore them. You wont back down even though you know you're wrong and being unfair.
Thats fine myron. I thought you were a bigger man than that though.

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Postby myron myron on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:22 pm

GayandProud wrote:Theres obviously no point in dragging this out any further. You know exactly what I meant. Ive explained fully in my posts. You've chosen to ignore them. You wont back down even though you know you're wrong and being unfair.
Thats fine myron. I thought you were a bigger man than that though.

I don't believe I am wrong, and I explained why.

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Postby The Colonel on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:27 pm

GayandProud wrote:For Gods sake myron get off your friggin high horse. You bandy the word bigot around like it was a cover all term for anybody you disagree with !


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So true.
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Postby ILWL on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:27 pm

GayandProud wrote:Theres obviously no point in dragging this out any further. You know exactly what I meant. Ive explained fully in my posts. You've chosen to ignore them. You wont back down even though you know you're wrong and being unfair.
Thats fine myron. I thought you were a bigger man than that though.


Prejudice doesn't come naturally - it is acquired through experience and what we have all been taught. That is what is so revolutionary about what your man was getting at and you yourself have conceeded that it is difficult to achieve.

I more or less agree with you about extremism that the world is full of it. Not just with the religous either. Politically you may have left and right extremes but sometimes it feels like there is, believe it or not, an extreme in the centre with people professing to be Liberal minded.

Perhaps Myron is being unfair and setting an intellectual and moral trap, but you are being unfair as well by almost attacking his Musculinity at the end of the qouted passage. You cannot expect people to budge all the time and a gently gently approach is needed because you are attacking some core values that have pre-dated you.

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Postby The Colonel on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:30 pm

GayandProud wrote:Why? Ive explained crystal clearly what I meant. Youve chosen to ignore everything Ive written. Whats the point of even talking to you if you wont listen to me? I have nothing to retract! Im blameless. Im no anti-Christian bigot.
I thought you were fair minded. I was wrong.


I explained my position against religion (making essentially a similar comparison as you) and was accused of being the same.

You wait - he'll post after you from now on "Says the admitted liar and admitted bigot".

That's myron for you.
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Postby myron myron on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:54 pm


Wrong, Colonel.

Here's what you posted:

The Colonel wrote:I have, and will, be bigotted towards religion.

The Colonel wrote:Religion should not be respected nor tolerated for its bad reasons.

It must be destroyed
.

The Colonel wrote:God raped Mary, she did not consent to intercourse,

Mary gave birth to a b***** child,


The Colonel wrote:I think "Xmas" is a fantastic way to describe the season.

CROSS OUT CHRIST!

Happy Xmas all you "christians". :lol:


The Colonel wrote:Oh yes, the bible.

Some freak with long hair that popped out of a virgin bitch in a barn full of donkey S*** and hung about with 12 men and a prostitute.


You are a hater, Colonel, pure and simple.

Yet G&P has never equated you with the 9/11 terrorists or even expressed any disapproval of your above posts.

Funny that.

And you admit that you are a liar as well.

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Postby GayandProud on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:55 pm

ILWL wrote:
GayandProud wrote:Theres obviously no point in dragging this out any further. You know exactly what I meant. Ive explained fully in my posts. You've chosen to ignore them. You wont back down even though you know you're wrong and being unfair.
Thats fine myron. I thought you were a bigger man than that though.


Prejudice doesn't come naturally - it is acquired through experience and what we have all been taught. That is what is so revolutionary about what your man was getting at and you yourself have conceeded that it is difficult to achieve.

I more or less agree with you about extremism that the world is full of it. Not just with the religous either. Politically you may have left and right extremes but sometimes it feels like there is, believe it or not, an extreme in the centre with people professing to be Liberal minded.

Perhaps Myron is being unfair and setting an intellectual and moral trap, but you are being unfair as well by almost attacking his Musculinity at the end of the qouted passage. You cannot expect people to budge all the time and a gently gently approach is needed because you are attacking some core values that have pre-dated you.


I appreciate what your saying and I agree with you about extremism and I feel Ive explained how I think about it in no uncertain terms. BUT I dont feel Im being unfair on myron - sorry - but Im not. He has accused me of being an anti-Christian bigot. Ive more than explained what I meant - in fact Ive gone overboard to spell it out but hes chosen to literally ignore everything Ive written. If he is so entrenched in his views that he cant be reasoned with by valid and fair points ...who exactly is the bigot? He accused me. Im not in the wrong here. He is.

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Postby myron myron on Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:13 pm

See my post above regarding the Colonel.

G&P's selective indignation is most revealing.

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Postby The Colonel on Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:45 pm

myron myron wrote:
Wrong, Colonel.

Here's what you posted:

The Colonel wrote:I have, and will, be bigotted towards religion.

The Colonel wrote:Religion should not be respected nor tolerated for its bad reasons.

It must be destroyed
.

The Colonel wrote:God raped Mary, she did not consent to intercourse,

Mary gave birth to a b***** child,


The Colonel wrote:I think "Xmas" is a fantastic way to describe the season.

CROSS OUT CHRIST!

Happy Xmas all you "christians". :lol:


The Colonel wrote:Oh yes, the bible.

Some freak with long hair that popped out of a virgin bitch in a barn full of donkey S*** and hung about with 12 men and a prostitute.


You are a hater, Colonel, pure and simple.

Yet G&P has never equated you with the 9/11 terrorists or even expressed any disapproval of your above posts.

Funny that.

And you admit that you are a liar as well.



The same was posted by a guest you claim WASNT you. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Second, PROVE my above statements are WRONG.

I'm waiting....
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Postby myron myron on Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:48 pm

The Colonel wrote:
myron myron wrote:
Wrong, Colonel.

Here's what you posted:

The Colonel wrote:I have, and will, be bigotted towards religion.

The Colonel wrote:Religion should not be respected nor tolerated for its bad reasons.

It must be destroyed
.

The Colonel wrote:God raped Mary, she did not consent to intercourse,

Mary gave birth to a b***** child,


The Colonel wrote:I think "Xmas" is a fantastic way to describe the season.

CROSS OUT CHRIST!

Happy Xmas all you "christians". :lol:


The Colonel wrote:Oh yes, the bible.

Some freak with long hair that popped out of a virgin bitch in a barn full of donkey S*** and hung about with 12 men and a prostitute.


You are a hater, Colonel, pure and simple.

Yet G&P has never equated you with the 9/11 terrorists or even expressed any disapproval of your above posts.

Funny that.

And you admit that you are a liar as well.


The same was posted by a guest you claim WASNT you. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Second, PROVE my above statements are WRONG.

I'm waiting....

Yes, I copied it from a guest's post -- and you have admitted it is accurate.

Your statements speak for themselves.


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Postby Fred75 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:08 pm

myron myron wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
myron myron wrote:
Wrong, Colonel.

Here's what you posted:

The Colonel wrote:I have, and will, be bigotted towards religion.

The Colonel wrote:Religion should not be respected nor tolerated for its bad reasons.

It must be destroyed
.

The Colonel wrote:God raped Mary, she did not consent to intercourse,

Mary gave birth to a b***** child,


The Colonel wrote:I think "Xmas" is a fantastic way to describe the season.

CROSS OUT CHRIST!

Happy Xmas all you "christians". :lol:


The Colonel wrote:Oh yes, the bible.

Some freak with long hair that popped out of a virgin bitch in a barn full of donkey S*** and hung about with 12 men and a prostitute.


You are a hater, Colonel, pure and simple.

Yet G&P has never equated you with the 9/11 terrorists or even expressed any disapproval of your above posts.

Funny that.

And you admit that you are a liar as well.


The same was posted by a guest you claim WASNT you. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Second, PROVE my above statements are WRONG.

I'm waiting....

Yes, I copied it from a guest's post -- and you have admitted it is accurate.

Your statements speak for themselves.



No wonder, Colonel, you have me beat on the most hated poll!
Looking at your above quotes... you have surpassed me! :lol: :lol:
We Americans are damn tired of being thought of as dumb by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November and removed all doubt.

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Postby The Colonel on Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:33 pm

myron myron wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
myron myron wrote:
Wrong, Colonel.

Here's what you posted:

The Colonel wrote:I have, and will, be bigotted towards religion.

The Colonel wrote:Religion should not be respected nor tolerated for its bad reasons.

It must be destroyed
.

The Colonel wrote:God raped Mary, she did not consent to intercourse,

Mary gave birth to a b***** child,


The Colonel wrote:I think "Xmas" is a fantastic way to describe the season.

CROSS OUT CHRIST!

Happy Xmas all you "christians". :lol:


The Colonel wrote:Oh yes, the bible.

Some freak with long hair that popped out of a virgin bitch in a barn full of donkey S*** and hung about with 12 men and a prostitute.


You are a hater, Colonel, pure and simple.

Yet G&P has never equated you with the 9/11 terrorists or even expressed any disapproval of your above posts.

Funny that.

And you admit that you are a liar as well.


The same was posted by a guest you claim WASNT you. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Second, PROVE my above statements are WRONG.

I'm waiting....

Yes, I copied it from a guest's post -- and you have admitted it is accurate.

Your statements speak for themselves.



NO NO NO.

I said what is WRONG with the above.

Answer the question.

Not answering indicates there is nothing wrong with them.

They are ALL accurate and valid statements. The fact you don't like them - is tough - nothing more.

You are the bigot.
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