Is This US democracy?

[myron myron]

I have no reason to apologize to you.

I believe everything I've said about you is true.

I'm not asking you for apologies, notwithstanding the numerous defamatory lies you've posted about me.

If and when I decide you crossed the legal line one time too many, I will act accordingly.

If you want to exercise your freedom of speech publicly, you have to have thick skin.

[The Colonel]

I have no reason to apologize to you.

I believe everything I've said about you is true.

I'm not asking you for apologies, notwithstanding the numerous defamatory lies you've posted about me.

If and when I decide you crossed the line legally one time too many, I will act accordingly.

If you want to freedom of speech, you have to have a thick skin.

See a psychologist.

[Cambridge]

Bullshit, cuckold boy.

What does that mean, murray? I'm not married, so explain to all the rest what you mean by that. It will put on bright display your ugly personality.

One member (your other friend in that forum) who was banned before I became a mod had vowed to track me down and kill me

See, this is your dishonesty again. This is the person you threatened with your Smith & Wesson .38-cal. handgun. I've mentioned it before. You’re so manipulative. You start to threaten and then take the whole thing out of context, as if you are the poor lamb. Well, nobody believes you are a lamb. Face it, you’re not an original thinker so you substitute dishonesty and use manipulativeness to achieve it.

And you were suspended before I became a moderator.

No, I don’t think so, Mr. Dishonesty. I was suspended in early March. You became a mod in the December/January timeframe. How could we have had all those debates on whether or not it was proper for you to manipulate and delete the posts of others? Those were all after you became a mod. You’re desperate now. I can see it.

Incidentally, thank you for raising the temporal sequence issue…you know, what came before what. Temporal sequence tends to prove cause and effect. Passantino v. Johnson & Johnson Consumer Products, Inc., 212 F.3d 493 (9th Cir. 2000). I was a member of that forum for about two years and I had never had a warn while you openly complained on the threads that you had an 80% warn on your ticket. So did your young sidekick. You became a mod for a month or two and all of a sudden I am gone. Cause and effect, murray. Why did I exist peacefully on that forum, with no warn whatsoever, before you became a mod?

[myron myron]

You can't stop lying, can you?

I never had "an 80% warn" -- ever.

I never threatened your friend. I replied to your friend's threat to come to my house and kill me by warning him that he would meet my friends Smith & Wesson if he tried to carry out his threat. I gave him fair warning.

You were suspended for a week in February 2007. I did not become a moderator until late December 2007. So you're caught in yet another lie.

It may be too much to ask of someone in your unhinged mental state, but I must reiterate that you stop lying about me and stop stalking me obsessively.

[Cambridge]

I never had "an 80% warn" -- ever.

Well, it is a fact that I only have your word for it. You and fire were complaining about how the mods had given you these high warns. I posted that I didn’t know what a warn was as I had never had one.

I never threatened your friend. I replied to your friend's threat to come to my house and kill me by warning him that he would meet my friends Smith & Wesson if he tried to carry out his threat. I gave him fair warning.

A-ha. How the truth dribbles out in minute proportions. So, now you have verified the Smith & Wesson story. You only say “he said we said they said she said”, before you said. I've already pointed out to you that you have problems with timing sequences. News flash murray: that is a form of dishonesty.

Speaking of which:

You were suspended for a week in February 2007. I did not become a moderator until late December 2007. So you're caught in yet another lie.

I was suspended on March 8, 2008. You now admit that you became a moderator in late December 2007. I had no warns. No criticisms. While you and your sidekick had more warns than a drunk driver on St. Patrick’s day. Between December and March what changed to have me excommunicated? Could it be your “pull”?

It may be too much to ask of someone in your unhinged mental state, but I must reiterate that you stop lying about me and stop stalking me obsessively.

It may be too much to ask of someone in your unhinged mental state, but could you please stop manipulating and distorting facts? You are a fundamentally dishonest person. You called me a “stalker” but you never volunteered that you had invited me to these forums that you claim I was following you to.

I think I understand what’s going on. As an insurance adjuster, you see lawyers at work and you covet to be one of them. Being unschooled, you think that they are merely twisting facts in a deceitful way. They are not. They are characterizing the facts to analogize to laws that they are trained to know. You are not so trained. You don’t know what the laws say, so you don’t even perceive the grid on which the lawyers are making their arguments. So you just think that the deception is the issue. So you are dishonest. Because you see that there is a certain amount of posturing that lawyers use to make their arguments, you are deceitful about posturing. After all, once you accept deceit as your method, why not engineer circumstances to make you seem in the right?

People often say lawyers are sleeze. I disagree. As I've said, they are trying to make facts fit a legal principle. Because generally people don’t see the principle, they think the worst of the lawyers. But imagine someone who is a wannabe lawyer, who with untrained eye sees the unschooled look, and he tries to imitate. He becomes, indeed, sleeze. Let us take for example, an insurance adjuster, who with a little bit of knowledge, creates a lot of lies. But that’s all right. Because with his untrained eye, that is what he sees his lawyer buddies doing.

Do you see what I'm getting at murray? Because you never went to law school, you don’t recognize the difference between acting according to principle and acting in a deceitful and fraudulent way. Now add all of that reduction of cognitive dissonance that allows you to deny your lack of grace, and you have what you have become.

And don’t ever try to manipulate me again by "asking" me to be something I am not. I read you like a book.

[myron myron]

You were banned for one year on March 8, 2008. You were suspended for one week in February 2007.

I never denied that I became a moderator in late December 2007.

I never told you or anyone else that I had "an 80% warn" because I never did have "an 80% warn."

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you about my profession. People here who know me know what I do for a living. But no one can vouch for you. Why is that?

Stop lying about me and stop stalking me obsessively. Get a life.

[Cambridge]

You were banned for one year on March 8, 2008. You were suspended for one week in February 2007.

You notice, like a good lawyer, I am getting the truth out of you bit-by-bit. If you weren’t a mod in February 2007, how could you know anything about my account? Could it be because you have “pull”. Damn, gottcha again, didn’t I?

I never told you or anyone else that I had "an 80% warn" because I never did have "an 80% warn."

Not only did you discuss it, but mods who were vehemently opposed to your appointment as a mod told me what the status was in PM’s and emails. Deny, deny, lie, lie…but you’ll never get away with it.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you about my profession. People here who know me know what I do for a living. But no one can vouch for you. Why is that?

Those would be the people who appease you because of your abusiveness…I reckon.

No one has been asked to vouch for me. You have already announced, in response to zia’s question, that I am a lawyer, and I have not denied it. Indeed, I have confirmed it. But I think most people realize from the context of our posts that you don’t know what you are talking about. The question is to you.

[myron myron]

I know about your account in February 2007 because I am a moderator and have access to that information.

I had "pull" only because I was right about you and about your banned friend.

In response to Zia's question, I said that you "claim to be a San Francisco lawyer." Go check.

And no moderator was opposed to my appointment -- not a single one.

Stop lying about me and stop stalking me.

[cosmicB]

[size=12]
Myron! Look in the mirror! It is you who are stalking...

You read only the bits of posts you can understand, and the rest you can't even see... You are like a defective child...

I do Not hate "god and jesus christ"!.. In Reality those two icons are as real as "mickey mouse and goofy".. "mary and her little lamb".. "starsky and hutch".. "batman and robin".. "clarke kent and lois lane".. "jet jackson and maria".. "mutt and jeff".. "george of the jungle and jane"....


If I hate you, then why am I trying so hard to wake you up to some reality so you won't end up recycled in hell..? But you are so infected with so strong a christian based hate, that all the jc's, and all the gods, all the king's horses and all the king's men, and even little ole me, couldn't fix you no how, no way...

I'm in this forum to have a little peer fun, and to assist others who want to learn some new stuff learn some new stuff, about how their bodies and minds work.. But we can't get any things rolling neat and clean here, because you are forever attacking everything you don't believe in, and don't care about.. You are forever crashing all the intellectual parties here, as if you are trying to break them...
Why don't you just read and post in threads on things you do agree with and enjoy, and leave the threads on adult-stuff to the people who haven't stopped learning, and who want to learn more new stuff about the creatures we are..?
If you don't like the threads I initiate and post in, then why not just ignore them, instead of try to damage and wreck them..? When you enter these intellectual threads it's usually you just adding your best insults and slanders, and your prized hates, as if you are an insane christian person desperate for anyone to help you out of your little hell.. But then when anybody falls for the bait, and tries to assist you, you suddenly do a 180, and "bite a chunk out of them", and "piss in their faces"... I'm supposing that's how your childhood went, and therefore that's how the world is to you... You really don't know any better, nor different, do you..? You think how you play the bully, is how humans share and get their love and respect.. And/Or, when you were very young this is how you got your attention and affection... Maybe that's how it was way back then when you were in diapers, but that's not the way we play today... If you deserve respect, I'm sure you'll get it.. and even from me... I don't hate you.. I just think you are an asshole, best avoided... I wish you would hurry-up and wake-up to some reality, so a few of us intellectuals in this forum can do a friendly chat without having to put up with all your flame and verbal-shidt attacks forever in our faces and threads... We don't want you in our lives... You've got nothing we need... All you are to us is hate and pain and insanity...

The question is: Why are you trying so hard to make people hate you?.. Is that how you got your love when you were three..?
Myron! you may not see it, but everything about your output indicates that you are an absolute textbook-classic insane person, just like in psychiatry manuals... We really can't help you here.. We just don't have the facilities, the equipment, the staff, the education, nor the strength...
You require the services of a major psychiatric hospital, before your hate evolves into the next level, like it has for so many like you when they finally did crack... We are merely trying to save you from yourself, and ourselves from you... You are dangerous to yourself, and to those near you... I'm bets your hatred pattern is based upon extreme guilts, which you can't deal with on your own, and which are bothering you daily, driving you more and more insane by the minute.. It seems you feel you must make us feel your pains, to ease it, but it never works.. you hurt us, and still all you guilt is with you, and still you persist in your own self therapy, trying to feed us your dirt... It doesn't work that way... You just can't shove your own poops up other peoples bums...

I don't believe in your "JC and god" thingawhozits.. To me it's all just insanity, and living in the pages of a crazy story-book... I sincerely don't believe that you should in any way ever change your beliefs for me and mine... Hold tight to what your freewill wishes... Do your own thing... but don't do it in chats where a few of us good folks are trying to solve a few of the world's ugly problems, and have a little fun doing it...

Maybe you should watch more TV... Get yourself a huge 90-inch flat screen, the best TV chair in the world, a set of coffee-table TV snack processors, extreme surround sound, and satellite reception, and just sit there at the TV 20-hours of the day, every day, taking in the happenings of the day, each day, to be on top of it all, and join forums that are into that kind of delicious thing and pastime... You would be happier.. We would be happier... The world would be happier...

[myron myron]

I just think you are an asshole, best avoided

Then why not take your own advice and avoid me rather than taking time and effort to post lengthy rants about me?

[cosmicB]

...to get you off our backs... Read it and grow up...

[myron myron]

...to get you off our backs... Read it and grow up...

You get off your back . . . and get a job.

[Cambridge]

I know about your account in February 2007 because I am a moderator and have access to that information.

But you just said you only became a mod in late-December 2007. How is you were talking about it in mid-2007? Because your Admin gf gave you the run of everyone’s books, didn’t she?

I had "pull" only because I was right about you and about your banned friend.

That would be the one you threatened to kill? Or are you thinking of one of my other friends? I had many, as you’ve pointed out.

And your sentence, above, is what is known as a self-confirming tautology. Reduced to its lowest common denominator, what you are saying is: I'm right because “I was right.” You live in those kinds of logical fallacies, while the rest of us live in a fact-based world. You and your Admin gf were working the PMs every hour and she was panting hot breath thinking she was reeling in a big New York City lawyer. You play her like a banjo. Little does she know, Mr. Insurance Adjuster. You had (and have) her wrapped around your little finger; she will do anything for you. Now that’s “pull,” not “right.”

The pity is all she has to do is contact your ex-wife and find out why she left you and why no woman stays with you today.

In response to Zia's question, I said that you "claim to be a San Francisco lawyer." Go check.

The point is that it was you that brought it up.

And no moderator was opposed to my appointment -- not a single one.

Well, then explain my email in-box. It’s loaded with messages from them. They use words like egomaniac and maniacal idiot…in so many words they say she’s giving the hen house to the fox. How do you think I know about her nipping passwords surreptitiously? It’s significant that you’ve never denied that.

People know you. They know the big kids at Stuyvesant High School in Brooklyn bullied you and that experience, in turn, made you the bully you are today. There are people who even know that despite your big mouth, you are a diminutive, 5’ 8” little Greek kid; that’s why they call you “ferretlegs” innit?

[myron myron]

Here's a question for you, walker/Cambridge: which of the following public statements you made is the reason you are such a bitter, lying, unhinged psycho?

Mine is.well, a strange story. Simply put, I found out late in my thirties that my birth was the result of an encounter my mother had with another man. Hmmm. It explained a lot about the distance my (putative) father kept between us. To his credit, he funded my upbringing, but there was never anything but enmity between us. I found out late in life, when my mother and father separated and he told my brother. So, I investigated and found that my real father was Tommy Walker, and that has been my name ever since.

Ok, I'll go first. My father hurt me the most. As a child, I was never aware of why he had probs with me. So, I was clueless when I was raised. His incessant barbs were the wholism in which I was raised, and I guess, like him, I wanted to hate myself.

Hmmm… Late in life. I am an ordained Presbyterian Elder…but I have to admit that I became sooo disenchanted by the Church when I had a stress collapse in my office and spent 10 days in the hospital. The assistant minister called me and subtly suggested I was malingering while my father-in-law was dying of cancer.

Well, I don’t know. Reading the posts I don’t know which direction each gender goes. I've never had a problem with someone having sex with my ex, after a clear break. Actually, some of them I've enjoyed immensely as nice guys.

I must say that I came home one day to find my wife in bed with my best friend. Of course, I’d never met the guy, but, sure enough, he turned out to be my best friend.

Is it all of the above, cuckold boy?

[The Colonel]

Here's a question for you, walker/Cambridge: which of the following public statements you made is the reason you are such a bitter, lying, unhinged psycho?

Mine is.well, a strange story. Simply put, I found out late in my thirties that my birth was the result of an encounter my mother had with another man. Hmmm. It explained a lot about the distance my (putative) father kept between us. To his credit, he funded my upbringing, but there was never anything but enmity between us. I found out late in life, when my mother and father separated and he told my brother. So, I investigated and found that my real father was Tommy Walker, and that has been my name ever since.

Ok, I'll go first. My father hurt me the most. As a child, I was never aware of why he had probs with me. So, I was clueless when I was raised. His incessant barbs were the wholism in which I was raised, and I guess, like him, I wanted to hate myself.

Hmmm… Late in life. I am an ordained Presbyterian Elder…but I have to admit that I became sooo disenchanted by the Church when I had a stress collapse in my office and spent 10 days in the hospital. The assistant minister called me and subtly suggested I was malingering while my father-in-law was dying of cancer.

Well, I don’t know. Reading the posts I don’t know which direction each gender goes. I've never had a problem with someone having sex with my ex, after a clear break. Actually, some of them I've enjoyed immensely as nice guys.

I must say that I came home one day to find my wife in bed with my best friend. Of course, I’d never met the guy, but, sure enough, he turned out to be my best friend.

Is it all of the above, cuckold boy?

You're stooping very low.