Stimulus Checks? WTF!

[Cambridge]

Is GWB crazy? Now he’s passing around these stimulus checks, in $300, $600, $1,200, amounts, basically chump-change, with the idea that people will rush out and buy candy and other non-essential goods, thereby stimulating the economy.

Is this not akin to Gerald Ford’s “Whip Inflation Now” campaign? Or Lady-Bird Johnson’s “Beautify American Highways” campaign, for the most impotent White House public campaign on record? Here you have people paying from $90 to $120 a tankful of gas. And he thinks this chump-change is going to have a dent in the economy.

This is the classic case of the republicans insulting American intelligence. “Look over here…don’t look over there,” they say, while passing around candy to the kiddies to distract their attention.

This war is going into its sixth year and it’s finally taking its toll on the US economy. Hence, the need to distract. For all the hee-hawing, economics is not a very difficult field. You buy too many toys you can’t buy food to eat. You spend more than you have you go insolvent. That about covers 9/10s of economics. The Muslim American war is costing upwards of a trillion dollars a year, not to mention the death and bloodshed. These idiots want to add another law of economics: you give the little kiddies Chicklets and you can steal all of their other possessions.

[Fred75]

You think thats bad!
Wait until the republicans start socialized medicine for everyone including the illegal immigrants!

That expenditure will be the beginning of the end of the US.

Think taxes like the UK has.
Think 25% of all homes solely subsidized by your taxes like the UK has!

[The Colonel]

You think thats bad!
Wait until the republicans start socialized medicine for everyone including the illegal immigrants!

That expenditure will be the beginning of the end of the US.

Think taxes like the UK has.
Think 25% of all homes solely subsidized by your taxes like the UK has!

That is not correct.

You are referring to such things as family tax credits (which I get for my kids) and pension credits, which permit you so much back out of money you pay etc.

Do your research please.

[Fred75]

You think thats bad!
Wait until the republicans start socialized medicine for everyone including the illegal immigrants!

That expenditure will be the beginning of the end of the US.

Think taxes like the UK has.
Think 25% of all homes solely subsidized by your taxes like the UK has!

That is not correct.

You are referring to such things as family tax credits (which I get for my kids) and pension credits, which permit you so much back out of money you pay etc.

Do your research please.

I stand corrected...
16.1 of your households are dependent on welfare!
Overall there were 3.04 million workless households in the three months to June 2007. This represented 16.1 per cent of all working age households, up 0.4 percentage points from the previous year and down 0.5 percentage points from five years earlier.
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=409

[Fred75]

Jobless Britain: One in five homes relies entirely on benefits
By STEVE DOUGHTY - More by this author » Last updated at 10:07am on 30th August 2007

Children's Minister Beverley Hughes disclosed this week that £21billion had been spent on pre-school programmes
unemployment

Job centres across the country will be busy with many of the three million unemployed householders

The number of households in which nobody works for a living rose to more than three million this summer, official figures revealed yesterday.

Among them were a growing number of lone parent families - the first increase in the figure for single parent homes entirely dependent on benefits in five years.

The statistics point towards a failure for Labour's policy of spending billions on benefits, childcare and incentive schemes intended to persuade those without jobs - and single mothers in particular - into employment.

The figure of three million workless homes is particularly bleak because it includes only those where there is someone of working age - defined as between 18 and 65 whether claiming a disability or not, but excluding students.

Last month the Whitehall spending watchdog attacked ministers for their failure to reduce workless numbers.

The National Audit Office warned that those living in workless households are at risk of permanent joblessness and poverty and face falling into a spiral of ill-health and crime.

Yesterday's figures from the Office for National Statistics show the number of men and women of working age who live in homes where nobody has a job has risen to 4,348,000, the highest since 1999 and a 181,000 jump in a year.

Their children - those under 18 whether in full-time education or not - number 1,798,000, bringing the total in workless households to 6,146,000.

The ranks of children in homes where no one works has risen thanks to the increase in workless lone parents. There were 15,000 more single parents without work this summer than last.

Growth in the tally of workless single parents comes despite huge government spending on trying to persuade lone mothers to take jobs.

Gordon Brown's flagship benefits, tax credits, cost £16billion a year and are tailored towards helping single parents.

Further billions have been pumped into subsidised childcare to try to help single parents looking for work.

Children's Minister Beverley Hughes disclosed this week that £21billion has been spent since 1997 on schemes such as Sure Start and early years education programmes.

Only one in five of the homes listed as workless is thought to include anyone who is actively looking for a job.

The Tories linked the figures to crime and social breakdown.

Chris Grayling, the party's work and pensions spokesman, said: "These figures are a damning indictment of the failures of government policy.

"We are seeing the consequences of this failure in many of the social problems that we now see in our streets and our communities."

Peter Hain, the Work and Pensions Secretary, said: "There are more than a million lone parents with a job, an increase of over 300,000 under this government."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=478548&in_page_id=1770

[Cambridge]

Whoa, this is getting good. I wish the GWB administration had as good a grasp on economics as you guys do. Unfortunately, for them its Chiclets and war.

[Big Ben]

Must be nice to be so rich so as to be able to poo-poo $1,200 tax-free dollars.

[Cambridge]

It's not a matter of how rich you are. If you sell your vote to end this war...if you sell your right to campaign for the life of your son or daughter...for $300, you're the chump who takes chump-change.

That's what it's all about. This war is causing the demise of the US, and perhaps the world economy. It's killing our sons and daughters. These stimulus checks are all about distraction. If they can give you Chicklets and distract your attention from what is killing your children, what a republican coup. You're playing right into their hands, BB.

[Fred75]

It's killing our sons and daughters. .

Is our army conscripted or did they freely enlist?

Are you saying they are fools for protecting us?


And the police... they die all the time too!
Do we close the police dept.s because officers die too?:

[azraelle]

Is GWB crazy? Now he’s passing around these stimulus checks, in $300, $600, $1,200, amounts, basically chump-change, with the idea that people will rush out and by candy and other non-essential goods, thereby stimulating the economy.

Is this not akin to Gerald Ford’s “Whip Inflation Now” campaign? Or Lady-Bird Johnson’s “Beautify American Highways” campaign, for the most impotent White House public campaign on record? Here you have people paying from $90 to $120 a tankful of gas. And he thinks this chump-change is going to have a dent in the economy.

This is the classic case of the republicans insulting American intelligence. “Look over here…don’t look over there,” they say, while passing around candy to the kiddies to distract their attention.

This war is going into its sixth year and it’s finally taking its toll on the US economy. Hence, the need to distract. For all the hee-hawing, economics is not a very difficult field. You buy too many toys you can’t buy food to eat. You spend more than you have you go insolvent. That about covers 9/10s of economics. The Muslim American war is costing upwards of a trillion dollars a year, not to mention the death and bloodshed. These idiots want to add another law of economics: you give the little kiddies Chicklets and you can steal all of their other possessions.

Rather, this is a case of the POT (Cambridge) calling the KETTLE BLACK. The Shrub may have suggested the stimulus checks, but they would still be an opium pipe dream, were it not for the DEMOCRATS' ENTHUSIASTIC response to the idea as THEIR SAVIOR so they can continue to spend BOOKOO BUCKS as usual.

[Cambridge]

The continuing war in Iraq is draining far more from the American economy than either their welfare, health or education spending will [afterall they all pay dividends to the national health over the long term - all military spending does is make a small elite richer..].

Reread and weep, AZ. The days are long gone when republicans can call democrats ‘tax-and-spenders.”