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Postby sk81 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:39 pm

That's great! I hope it works very well for you! :D
Raw food diet is a common factor with Purple Jen's routine, even though I'm afraid for me it would be an almost impossible feat... :? lol
I've also heard good words about Avon's products so the cream must help, too, in the process. I'm curious about the Reiki healing treatments. I would love to start giving myself treatments but I don't know how to do it... How did you learn?? I've only had two 10-minute treatments by someone else and it felt really nice, I kept getting goosebumbs all over. But I don't think they were enough so I'd love to learn how to do it myself. :)

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:19 pm

. wrote:i was wondering where i can get the best p-roducts i need such as the chemical peel and the creams


Which peels and which creams? You need to clarify what it is you want

glycolic acid
tca
emu oil
copper peptides

I presume you mean the above but don't really know. You can buy glycolic on ebay, you can buy tca on platinumskincare's website, and also emu oil and copper peptides, there are probably lots of other suppliers you can use too just google the above. Stick to low strengths with the acids, they will have details on the websites of the various strengths.

J

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Postby Guest on Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:26 pm

. wrote:could someone please tell me what to apply after the peel has been done as this is the only part of the procedure im unsure about and it is probably the most important? *by after the peel i mean immediately after and during the healing process.


can anyone help pls???

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Postby nini123 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:51 pm

I would like to know post-peel treatment procedure too. The outline on page 410 was very helpful regarding pre-treatment but then it says to follow a strict good skin regimen afterwards--what does that include?

Do you apply copper-peptide cream everyday? Emu Oil? MSM Cream?
Do you dry skin brush this area?
If I wanted to promote faster healing could I do a castor oil pack on this area?

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Postby Guest on Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:40 pm

I got help for my stretch marks from needling skin.

I bought my Dermaroller from a new European company selling Dr.Roller Derma Rollers.

They have very good prices - one Derma Roller only for 69 USD (including worldwide shipping).

You may look www.dr-roller.eu info.

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:35 am

Hi

Just thought I would give an update, I have done a peel on my lower legs, which is almost finished peeling now and I have to say that tca is absolutely brilliant at reducing the marks. Now, I am not saying they have gone yet, but I cannot believe that if I do 3 or 4 peels on my lower legs they will not be gone, they have reduced so much already. I just want everyone who is using GA to consider buying a low strength tca peel and trying it for a couple of months on one area to see if they get results, if not they can continue with GA. I will never go back to using GA again though, because there is no way it is anywhere near as good as TCA. Obviously though if you do try it make sure you pick a test area that you can cope with problems if you have some sort of adverse reaction. And please stick to low strength tca.

J

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Postby sk81 on Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:14 am

Thanks J for your updates! Much appreciated! :)
And of course once again we'll have questions to ask you, lol! Could you please update us again with the following: TCA strength, duration between peels, your stretch mark depth, and if you also keep using footfiling?
Thanks!!! :D

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 pm

sk81 wrote:Thanks J for your updates! Much appreciated! :)
And of course once again we'll have questions to ask you, lol! Could you please update us again with the following: TCA strength, duration between peels, your stretch mark depth, and if you also keep using footfiling?
Thanks!!! :D


I'm using 20% tca (but others may want to water that down or buy 15% especially if they have never done a peel before) I would not use a stronger peel than this. I am waiting 2 weeks between peels, but you should wait 3 weeks really. Marks are fairly shallow but I have some that are deeper. No footfiling with tca, it is unnecessary.

Hope this helps

J

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:05 pm

. wrote:Hi

Just thought I would give an update, I have done a peel on my lower legs, which is almost finished peeling now and I have to say that tca is absolutely brilliant at reducing the marks. Now, I am not saying they have gone yet, but I cannot believe that if I do 3 or 4 peels on my lower legs they will not be gone, they have reduced so much already. I just want everyone who is using GA to consider buying a low strength tca peel and trying it for a couple of months on one area to see if they get results, if not they can continue with GA. I will never go back to using GA again though, because there is no way it is anywhere near as good as TCA. Obviously though if you do try it make sure you pick a test area that you can cope with problems if you have some sort of adverse reaction. And please stick to low strength tca.

J


hi J thank you so much that is great news im so excited that theres something out there that might work or at least help.

i know u expressed previously that you wouldnt like to advise people on the peels as you dont know enough about them yourself yet but could you please tell us what you are applying to the area immediately after a peel and in the following days as there are a few people dieing to know this including myself.

thank you so much

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:26 pm

. wrote:
. wrote:Hi

Just thought I would give an update, I have done a peel on my lower legs, which is almost finished peeling now and I have to say that tca is absolutely brilliant at reducing the marks. Now, I am not saying they have gone yet, but I cannot believe that if I do 3 or 4 peels on my lower legs they will not be gone, they have reduced so much already. I just want everyone who is using GA to consider buying a low strength tca peel and trying it for a couple of months on one area to see if they get results, if not they can continue with GA. I will never go back to using GA again though, because there is no way it is anywhere near as good as TCA. Obviously though if you do try it make sure you pick a test area that you can cope with problems if you have some sort of adverse reaction. And please stick to low strength tca.

J


hi J thank you so much that is great news im so excited that theres something out there that might work or at least help.

i know u expressed previously that you wouldnt like to advise people on the peels as you dont know enough about them yourself yet but could you please tell us what you are applying to the area immediately after a peel and in the following days as there are a few people dieing to know this including myself.

thank you so much


There is a good peel routine on page 410. I would imagine the best thing to apply would be emu oil and copper peptides, I myself use olive oil applied a few times per day to keep the skin moist. The main things seem to be to leave the skin to come off on its own, that way you get the best improvement. It may be that this does not work for everyone but on me tca is an absolute dream and I cannot believe the level of improvement I have gotten so quickly. I still get a little hyperpigmentation from it, but I got that from GA when I used strong solutions too. I really do wish I had started using it in the beginning.

I'll say it again though, because some on here just jump in at the deep end, then complain about what happens. Stick to low level tca peels (15 or 20% water down if necessary) to be on the safe side, and try a test area for a month or two first to see if its for you. I am using it everywhere now because regardless of what happens to my skin I accept full responsibility for my own actions and won't come on here moaning if I do something wrong. My skin is probably well prepared for it anyway after all the GA peels I have done. Please proceed with caution if you decide to try it. I don't want anyone moaning at me if they end up with scarring. Everyone must take responsibility for their own actions and do their own research.

J

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Postby RK on Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:29 pm

This sucks!! TCA's working for you!? Never worked for me.

It#s quite disheartening when other people seem to be able to correct theirs and mine are just stuck there.

Anyway, as for me. I've been applying the Obagi 0.05% 1x a day - and contrary to what I said before, I started applying it to tummy & breasts too (as well as arms). The tube's consequently almost run out already. I thought I wasn't getting any irritation but just started to 2 days ago (on my breasts). Everywhere looks a bit worse if anything, in fact I think I've spotted a few more appearing on my right arm (but I'm not saying that's down to the retin A - probably more the severe stress my body seems to have been under, as I'm breaking out with rashes & all sorts at the moment). I've only dermarollered twice with the retin A, because it started to itch too much (like when I tried with the copper peptides). The obagi cream is very expensive & I'm geting through it too quickly for my mum to keep ordering it from her derm (who has been giving it to her pre face lift), so I cracked & ordered 3 x 35g tubes of 0.1 retin-A from In House Pharmacy....... Purely on price, even if i get import duties it will work out cheaper as the obagi tubes are only 20g. Anyway, I'm just hoping that it will be the real deal & real retin-A, as my mother ordered some HRT from there once which she was convinced was fake (she continued getting flushes etc until she went and saw a private doctor who prescribed her some, so she could tell the internet ones were fake).

Anyway - I mentioned before that I had Accent treatment on my thighs & bum and that it did what it was supposed to do but I don't think touched the stretchmarks/improved them. Hopefully I'll be having Accent on my arms soon & I'll definitely be looking very carefully for signs of any improvement in my marks (though I don't hold out any hope).

At least the Protopic actually got rid of the excema on my face and neck - what a relief to be able to use all my normal products without my face burning & itching & flaking all over the place.
RK

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:42 pm

RK wrote:This sucks!! TCA's working for you!? Never worked for me.

RK


Rk sorry to hear it did not work for you, can I ask you the following:

1. where did you buy it from
2. what percentage did you use
3. how many layers did you apply each time you used it
4. did you peel? (some people do not)
5. how many times over what period did you try it

Just trying to work out why it would not work for you when it is working so well for me.

J

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Postby RK on Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:00 pm

I bought it from a couple of different people & actually someone from this board sent me the rest of theirs as well (lovely person who seems to have left the board now - Rosie). Anyway, most of it was obtained from Ebay, think I got the last lot from platinumskincare.

The first lot I used didn't seem to do much at all - even at supposed 100%, the stuff Rosie got me worked so I could tell the diff (can't remember percentage) & the last stuff I got was the real deal & 80%< I think. I really can't remember routine but I pretty much used to use it neat (between 40% - a supposed 80/100%). I even used the dermaroller with it a couple of times - one time I did this on my left knee & actually thought the marks did improve, but that's the only time & did it on a very small area.

Anyway - I think I've peeled every area about 6/7 times - sort of 3 times with 4 - 5 weeks inbetween then I left it for months to recover the hyperpigmentation (where there was some) & repeated.

As for no. of layers I applied - it all depended on how long it took to frost. If it was taking its time I applied a second layer, in general it was only one. Mostly it took between 1-3 minutes to frost.

I did peel but it took a long time to happen - roughly 2-3 weeks for it to start peeling & it used to come off quite slowly, which was why I used to then pick bits off (because even after a week it was still shedding & it was quite tempting). I only got hyperpigmentation at the highest strengths & where I picked, so I owuldn't advise it. It does fade though.

I'm impressed you saw a difference after the first peel. I thought I did a couple of times but then about a week or two after the swelling & colour settled down and - hey presto - skin was the same.

I generally 'prepped' the skin inbetween and after using all the same lotions & potions I usually do - mene & moy vit c & glycolic or mdformulations etc etc.

Not a very scientific approach to it all (perhaps) but the honest one.

And when I say I picked at it, it was 'sensible' picking (if that makes sense) - i.e. if I had a large flap of snake like skin hanging off, I wouldn't antagonise it by ripping it off, I'd tear it to where it was flush with the rest of the skin (so just aided the process). I no that's still not very good but I wasn't actively picking at the skin when it was just a bit flaky)... I found with TCA that it tended to come off all most sheet like & sometimes very thickly.

RK

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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:22 pm

RK wrote:I bought it from a couple of different people & actually someone from this board sent me the rest of theirs as well (lovely person who seems to have left the board now - Rosie). Anyway, most of it was obtained from Ebay, think I got the last lot from platinumskincare.

The first lot I used didn't seem to do much at all - even at supposed 100%, the stuff Rosie got me worked so I could tell the diff (can't remember percentage) & the last stuff I got was the real deal & 80%< I think. I really can't remember routine but I pretty much used to use it neat (between 40% - a supposed 80/100%). I even used the dermaroller with it a couple of times - one time I did this on my left knee & actually thought the marks did improve, but that's the only time & did it on a very small area.

Anyway - I think I've peeled every area about 6/7 times - sort of 3 times with 4 - 5 weeks inbetween then I left it for months to recover the hyperpigmentation (where there was some) & repeated.

As for no. of layers I applied - it all depended on how long it took to frost. If it was taking its time I applied a second layer, in general it was only one. Mostly it took between 1-3 minutes to frost.

I did peel but it took a long time to happen - roughly 2-3 weeks for it to start peeling & it used to come off quite slowly, which was why I used to then pick bits off (because even after a week it was still shedding & it was quite tempting). I only got hyperpigmentation at the highest strengths & where I picked, so I owuldn't advise it. It does fade though.

I'm impressed you saw a difference after the first peel. I thought I did a couple of times but then about a week or two after the swelling & colour settled down and - hey presto - skin was the same.

I generally 'prepped' the skin inbetween and after using all the same lotions & potions I usually do - mene & moy vit c & glycolic or mdformulations etc etc.

Not a very scientific approach to it all (perhaps) but the honest one.

And when I say I picked at it, it was 'sensible' picking (if that makes sense) - i.e. if I had a large flap of snake like skin hanging off, I wouldn't antagonise it by ripping it off, I'd tear it to where it was flush with the rest of the skin (so just aided the process). I no that's still not very good but I wasn't actively picking at the skin when it was just a bit flaky)... I found with TCA that it tended to come off all most sheet like & sometimes very thickly.

RK


I am really interested now, so did you not see any improvement at all (long term after the skin had settled down) and how deep and old were the marks you were treating?


It sounds like you have used very strong peels too, yet not really had any results from them. I did a 3 layer peel on my lower legs, and my bum has just had a 2 layer peel. I do not get frosting, but the skin does peel after about 4 days and it takes about 8 to 10 days for the peeling to finish. Each peel is showing improvements on me. However, RK I am taking A LOT of vit c and also recommended doses of zinc and vit b to aid the recovery.

I have had immediate improvement in the depth etc of the marks after peeling. My bum is coming along nicely. My lower legs are definitely significantly better, perhaps I am being too optimistic and the skin will return to normal after a period of weeks?

J

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Postby cr on Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:17 pm

Hi RK,
I am so sorry to hear that the TCA has not worked for you. I think this is where, as J suggested, the vitamin/minerals are useful. As well as eating habits, minimizing stress, and exercise are beneficial in order to nourish your body and promote healing. You may be engaging in these factors already and, if so, then it may be that TCA is not the formula for you. I truly believe that we can all greatly improve, and even totally remove our marks, but it will be through a different strategy for each person because our bodies are so different. Sometimes just adjusting one part of your routine can be the factor that triggers improvement. All the Best!!! CR

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