My son wants a perm

[The Colonel]

It doesn't fit in with his aristocratic view of "appropriate behavior" for his sons, although being gay is perfectly acceptable. Go figure.

How one dresses and what one is are two separate things.

I couldn't agree with you more, Colonel. How I dress has nothing whatsoever to do with my gender preference. Neither does the way I (or anyone else, for that matter) wear my hair!!

Not homophobic. Can't understand why YOU are so cross-dress-a-phobic, and yet so open-minded with respect to gender preference.

It's not gender preference - it is sexual orientation.

I am not "cross-dress-a-phobic". I do not understand it, and as long as it is in private then I don't have issue with it. I do not think it is appropriate.

As a matter of fact, I have let my children (primarily my eldest two) choose what some would regard as inappropriate or radical hairstyles. They have had the spikey versions, shaven and highlights etc. In this respect (though I don't always personally like it) I have been very accepting and accomodating of individuality - I bet a lot more than most parents. But as for perms - that crosses the line.

My parents on the other hand are vocal in their disapproval of such things. If I had done a fraction of what my kids have done with their hair my father would have given me a good beating for being "a queer" (in his eyes that is).

I don't think I am being unfair.

Also, don't be so quick to make a judgment about me on my social class. I do believe names should be appropriate - you disagree. But that is lifelong and is a good bit different.

[The Colonel]

Colenel,
I wouldn't go that far. Your telling me earings are better? A perm is gone in 3 months or so, the holes from earings could last a lifetime. What is your reasoning for a boy not getting a perm?

I think earrings are better. They are more socially acceptable for boys. As I've mentioned before, my 18 year old has his left ear pierced and my 16 year old has both his ears pierced. Most of their friends do - all of similar backgrounds.

Again, another example of how accomodating I am.

[Guest]

The boy is 14 and has gotten his perm. The original poster posted both here and on the pareting forum. Here is a link to the post on the parenting forum that gives the latest update.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about83194.html

Whatever.

No boy gets a perm.

If no boy gets a perm, what do you call a 14 year old person with a penis who has a perm?

[The Colonel]

The boy is 14 and has gotten his perm. The original poster posted both here and on the pareting forum. Here is a link to the post on the parenting forum that gives the latest update.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about83194.html

Whatever.

No boy gets a perm.

If no boy gets a perm, what do you call a 14 year old person with a penis who has a perm?

A female that has had one stuck on?

[Guest]

Colonel, You're an idiot! So tell me, earings, piercings, highlighting etc are not feminine or non-approved, but perms are? I'd like to hear the reasoning behind this one.

[The Colonel]

Colonel, You're an idiot! So tell me, earings, piercings, highlighting etc are not feminine or non-approved, but perms are? I'd like to hear the reasoning behind this one.

two words:

Social norms.

[Guest]

IM A BOY AND I WANT A PERM ALSO BUT MY SISTER IN LAW SAID ONLY GIRLS GET PERMS IM CONFUSED IM PRETTY SHORE BOYS GET THEM TO SO SHOULD I GET ONE?

[Carin]

I had my first perm at 13 as I was pushe by my parents to cut my very straight and not well cared of hair or have it done "like the girls".
I had it permed in large soft curls that reached to the shoulderblades. I liked loved it and I had no problem at shool (of course a few comments but mostly possitive)
Afterwards I have kept my hair long and still have a perm every 6-8 week
You should definitely let your son have a perm

[The Colonel]

Rubbish. No parent treats a child like another gender. If they do they are guilty of child abuse.

I'll expect a police complaint to be issued against your parents if this is true.

[Carin]

Rubbish. No parent treats a child like another gender. If they do they are guilty of child abuse.

I'll expect a police complaint to be issued against your parents if this is true.

I think and believe that you are rubbish and fake when looking at your previous comments to posts

[The Colonel]

Rubbish. No parent treats a child like another gender. If they do they are guilty of child abuse.

I'll expect a police complaint to be issued against your parents if this is true.

I think and believe that you are rubbish and fake when looking at your previous comments to posts

Of course Louise P/alex170170/Julie H/Jenna3.

You don't like it when you get caught out do you?

You are too predictable! You always say the same thing. Not very clever are you?

[Guest]

Rubbish. No parent treats a child like another gender. If they do they are guilty of child abuse.

I'll expect a police complaint to be issued against your parents if this is true.

I think and believe that you are rubbish and fake when looking at your previous comments to posts

Of course Louise P/alex170170/Julie H/Jenna3.

You don't like it when you get caught out do you?

You are too predictable! You always say the same thing. Not very clever are you?

No more predictable than your criticism of anyone who disagrees with you Colonel.

[The Colonel]

Rubbish. No parent treats a child like another gender. If they do they are guilty of child abuse.

I'll expect a police complaint to be issued against your parents if this is true.

I think and believe that you are rubbish and fake when looking at your previous comments to posts

Of course Louise P/alex170170/Julie H/Jenna3.

You don't like it when you get caught out do you?

You are too predictable! You always say the same thing. Not very clever are you?

No more predictable than your criticism of anyone who disagrees with you Colonel.

I am happy to disagree. But this is just nonsense.